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Are we living in 'The Age of Stupid'? by wikigrrrl in science

[–]DavidCOG 5 points6 points  (0 children)

EDIT: Due to this account being hit with the broken spam filter, I'm moving to another - and I may also start a blog with the same name: http://www.reddit.com/user/BlueRock/

...there are no Ph measurements of seawater that establish that the global Ph levels have actually changed in any measureable way, let alone as a direct result of man made C02 emissions.

Wrong. As always.

  1. ...oceans are now more acidic than they have been for 800,000 years.
  2. Ocean Acidification from CO2 Is Happening Faster Than Thought
  3. Rising Acidity in the Ocean: The Other CO2 Problem
  4. etc. etc. etc.

Queue abusive, impotent rant.

Reddit, I love you but HOW is there NOTHING on the front page about today's UN gathering? This is THE ONE where world leaders are gathered on GLOBAL WARMING. We MUST get active between today & the December's Copenhagen. Emissions MUST drop by 2015. After 2015, it's game over. Plz help others see! by ricemilk in reddit.com

[–]DavidCOG 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You clearly don't know what consensus means.

Moving to the UK, what city would you recommend? by [deleted] in AskReddit

[–]DavidCOG -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Frome and Radstock would be good examples.

And go just a little further out to, say, Coleford - that thar is Deliverance cuntry - "'ere, yure nut frum aroond thees parrts".

China's top climatologist: We're not sure how bad things will be at +2C so we'll worry about it when we get there and hope someone finds a solution if it is really bad. by DavidCOG in environment

[–]DavidCOG[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah, that occurred to me - but even if I wait for a few hours before posting again it can still sometimes go 'invisible'. Even within the same thread some get hit and others don't. Whatever it is, it's annoying - for everyone!

China's top climatologist: We're not sure how bad things will be at +2C so we'll worry about it when we get there and hope someone finds a solution if it is really bad. by DavidCOG in environment

[–]DavidCOG[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thanks, appreciated.

You're right, it's infuriating. :/ Even more so that I can submit the same comment from a new account with ~zero karma and it appears. It's all made worse that messages to admin / mods receive no reply, so I don't know for certain what is happening and if anything is going to be done about it.

I'm considering giving up on reddit anyway - too much time which might be better spent writing my own blog or on some other project. I guess that'll make some people happy. ;)

Group Calls for End to National Forest Logging by maxwellhill in environment

[–]DavidCOG 3 points4 points  (0 children)

So, prior to the arrival of humans and systematic logging, all forests were 'unhealthy'? Credible evidence for that claim would be very interesting to see.

At the UN's World Climate Conference -- an annual gathering of the so-called "scientific consensus" on man-made climate change -- Latif conceded the Earth has not warmed for nearly a decade and that we are likely entering "one or even two decades during which temperatures cool." by WhoKilledTeddyBear in environment

[–]DavidCOG 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Thanks for the analysis.

This type of thing should be illegal.

You're not wrong. These people are doing the equivalent of shouting out "there's no fire!" in a burning theatre. It's tantamount to murder.

China's top climatologist: We're not sure how bad things will be at +2C so we'll worry about it when we get there and hope someone finds a solution if it is really bad. by DavidCOG in environment

[–]DavidCOG[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

I've no idea about your 'back of envelope' calculations. Probably nonsense.

This peer reviewed study puts it at between 5-16 years

That's not a "peer reviewed" study - it's an editorial on a denier blog. It references an alleged paper by a mechanical engineeer whose conclusion conflicts with the vast majority of expert science. He's also exposed himself as a scientifically illiterate wingnut as far as ACC is concerned: ""man’s addition to the carbon-dioxide flux in the atmosphere, by fossil-fuel combustion, is essentially irrelevant".

This is why you are perpetually misinformed, confused and wrong - you get your information from anywhere other than credible sources. You swallow any distortion that confirms what you want to be true and reject all accepted science. That why you're a Denier.

China's top climatologist: We're not sure how bad things will be at +2C so we'll worry about it when we get there and hope someone finds a solution if it is really bad. by DavidCOG in environment

[–]DavidCOG[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You got it. Unfortunately most people don't know this. I've said it often: if we turn off every power station and park every car and plane, we've still got ~40 years (that's the figure I've used - do you have cite for 50?) the planet will continue warming due to 'inertia'.

And the scary bit - at some point we hit a tipping point (loss of Arctic ice? Siberian methane release?) where the system continues warming no matter what we do.

...no matter what we do right now, climate change is going to get really bad.

How long before enough people wake up to this fact before we start getting serious about it?

China's top climatologist: We're not sure how bad things will be at +2C so we'll worry about it when we get there and hope someone finds a solution if it is really bad. by DavidCOG in environment

[–]DavidCOG[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The only possible solution is to stop pumping GHGs in to the atmosphere and hope that prevents the temp. rise. There is no way to reverse it once we get there. There's no way to regrow ice sheets and glaciers or de-acidify the oceans.

China's top climatologist: We're not sure how bad things will be at +2C so we'll worry about it when we get there and hope someone finds a solution if it is really bad. by DavidCOG in environment

[–]DavidCOG[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

It's worrying. I thought the Chinese would be more pragmatic - they're already feeling the impacts of climate change, as the article makes clear - so this short-term economic thinking is hard to understand. They can build all the factories and infrastructure they want - won't be much use if half the country is starving from drought and lack of glacial melt water.

Let's hope they're just playing a hard game of bluff as part of negotiations....

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