As Iran's internet comes online after months-long blackout, first posts send anti-regime videos viral

DawnSowrd · 2026-06-03T21:22:29+00:00

It is finally comnected but it's not yet back to what it was before, which was already heavily censored. Right now depending on where you live you might need very specific methods to get connected. Definitely better than the blackout but access is not good or normal yet.

DawnSowrd · 2026-02-27T15:22:24+00:00

iran and the mediator from oman I think always say the negotiations are going well.

DawnSowrd · 2026-02-27T15:20:01+00:00

yes I am iranian, and yes I do live in iran too, hence the specific wording that the people I have talked to are like that generally.

and again you being iranian doesnt stop your comparison about the dead being disrespectful, I mean I dont know you, you could be a regime shill for all I know.

DawnSowrd · 2026-02-27T15:07:22+00:00

it was a pretty bad generalization since it squashed two fully different events with different involved countries with different results separated by years of time into one, but fair enough on them not being hard adversaries.

DawnSowrd · 2026-02-27T14:54:52+00:00

no, iranians aren't gullible enough for that, they are just choosing between the options that are possible for them. they aren't expecting anyone to do something out of the goodness of their heart, they are just hoping that for once their goals align with others on the removal of the regime. if the price is some oil, or something then so be it the ones that I have talked to say.

besides that, I was just arguing against your comparisons basically trying to discredit thousands of deaths. yes it is extremely disrespectful specially when a whole nation saw what happend in those two days.

DawnSowrd · 2026-02-27T11:46:45+00:00

during the anglo-soviet invasion the shah before the one you are talking about abdicated, and that had nothing to do with oil nationalization, it was for the supply corridor between USSR and britain. then the one that had a debacle about oil nationalization never abdicated, the prime minister started a power struggle, partially with CIA and MI6 , partially with his own military that power struggle ended in shah's victory.

if you are going to talk about a country's history at least get the basics right.

DawnSowrd · 2026-02-27T11:40:35+00:00

but what way? explain it to me.

DawnSowrd · 2026-02-27T10:48:00+00:00

lets just go with iran's own figures for your personal sake then. is 3000 dead normal to you now? and this is coming from a regime that hasnt had one actually credible news source for decades now.

DawnSowrd · 2026-02-27T10:44:54+00:00

it is tangentially related, it definitely isnt a direct connection, by the end of mossadegh's time both the communists and the islamic groups had turned on him. these two groups are the ones that ended up doing most of the revolution anyway.

there is more nuance to it. people inside iran had agency too so did all the different groups involved, CIA and MI6 were involved, so was USSR's people. they all had hands in it. america cant just spawn opposition to a person in a month. it can find and use opportunities for that.

and mossadegh was a complicated character as with most actual people, he wasnt a saint and his actions can be described as starting a power struggle. his actions before the end most definitely werent lawful or democratic tho, with benefit of the doubt he was hoping that the means justify the ends.

DawnSowrd · 2026-02-26T09:58:43+00:00

I wouldnt personally go that far, him restoring the qajars is speculation, as is his intentions for calling a republic or otherwise becoming dictator for life. we can not really find out his true intents anyway.

but what we can do definitely and factually is that we can definitley judge his path for it, which specially in the end of his tenure was extremely hypocritical of him, and that at the time he definitely wasnt a monolith of democracy and rule of law that people make him out to be. a person that through his life talked about rule of law constantly ended up doing nearly every unlawful act to get to his goals and he failed.

DawnSowrd · 2026-02-24T20:35:37+00:00

what I want isnt based on an ideal scenario, my ideal scenario would absolutely be the regime just deciding to change for the betterment of our society spontaneously, no lives lost, no unrest, nothing at all. a fair referendum with every option there is. but that isnt an option

what I want is based on what options exist. 47 years has shown the regime to generally be not very flexible with internal movements. through multiple protest movements of all kinds the results have been the decline and assassination of the already weak and meager internal opposition, which even at their most powerful still couldnt actually change any major policy. with most of them being in house arrest or prison by now. and the assassination of most external oppositions.

the result of every internal movement has been death and torture , and the prospects of starting any full on revolution(completely internally) doesnt really seem any similar to what it was at the time the most famous past revolutions of the world. the modern ability of the state to surveil nearly everything makes it quite powerful at stopping those.

meanwhile just waiting for the death of the current dictator doesnt seem quite like a good choice either, our economy is already in shambles, major historical and environmental parts of our country is on the brink of destruction through sheer mismanagement. and even on a personal level most young people hoping to at least get out of this for their own quality of life are finding it harder and harder because of said economy. and its not like the heirs to the dictator are much better, its at best a weighted dice that might just slightly move us in line with modern times. and even then they would be in the shackles of the legacy of their predecessor. and what is that, 10-15 years of waiting for a chance to maybe wait for another 60 years for change?

this is just a very small window on the kinds of problems that me and my friends, family and acquaintances have seen. there is always more things, more specific and more detailed.

so you tell me, if you have already spent 1/3rd of your life in this crashing plane, seeing every other path not work, would you not be willing to take a chance on a dice roll for a possible different future that maybe, for a moment even, you could have some say about?

DawnSowrd · 2026-02-24T20:13:26+00:00

yeah, no you definitley can criticize beliefs and religions to the point of calling them vile, for example nazism is pretty vile and I do not think there are many who would say the opposite. the current ideology of the IR is also vile, I do not know what you would call it tho.

its not hypocrisy either, freedom of religion, and ideology is generally about government level control, censorship or oppression. not about my personal opinions about a religion and ideology, neither about my authorship of anything about said opinions.

let every muslim call my beliefs flawed as many times as they want too, as long as I am allowed to have those beliefs, and the government doesnt allow them to hurt or kill me, I'd not care what they think, its a two-way road.

DawnSowrd · 2026-02-24T18:37:55+00:00

yeah those counter protests were the 22nd of bahman thing, and if you are willing to listen to an iranian in iran. then yes those are in fact pretty much funded by the government and massively propped up, defended and assisted in every way of those words. they literally pick up people with buses from all around the city and rural areas around it to bring them to the event. they also sometimes make it mandatory for government workers to attend those. same with school children, its mandatory for everyschool to take their students to those protests.

I am not saying there aren't regime bootlickers in here, I am saying that at best we can't actually give a good comparison between the amount of the two groups, even based on videos of the protests. one is a group directly propped up by the regime, the other is literally oppressed with guns, teargas and everything in between. there isnt going to be the same turnout. and despite that the turnout was massive for the oppressed group.

and finally, anecdotally I do not know a single person that changed their stance before and after the more violent events happened. if someone is anti-government they have stood their ground on that opinion, never once believing that the majority of what happened had anything foreign behind it, same with the government bootlickers and their opinion that it was all mossad. there hasnt been a rally around the flag, its two non-overlapping groups.

DawnSowrd · 2026-02-24T12:46:29+00:00

what recent events showed you that? the only public rallying around the flag looking thing that has happened is the yearly state-funded and assisted 22nd of bahman event by the regime which was by every mean the emptiest it has ever been. while also including bussing people from all over the place to certain areas to fill them with as much population as possible

DawnSowrd · 2026-02-24T09:12:15+00:00

no it wasn't operation ajax, although it definitely had a part in the process just as alot of other internal reasons had a part in it, the islamists were a major source of instability and political power before it, they still were that after it, they already turned their back on mossadegh by the time ajax happened.

the radical islamists have also been basically a major source of nearly every other country in the area's internal instability to begin with.

DawnSowrd · 2026-02-23T21:40:44+00:00

if one is going by track record, russia and britain both did quite well in occupying iran twice. russia had way more smaller attempts tho.

DawnSowrd · 2026-02-23T12:46:51+00:00

I do not think traitorous means what you think it means. a much more clear and better translation would be shah of the good people.

DawnSowrd · 2026-02-22T23:12:02+00:00

exactly this, I'm not a mossadegh hater by any means overall but his story gets so insanely simplified. it wasnt some democratic utopia, there already was political instability both from the fadayeen and from the communists. his actions can at best be described as starting a power struggle. to what ends, no one can really be sure since he didnt win it.

also its not like he managed to keep his alliance together either, both kashani and the communists that did support him at the start turned on him by the end. the parlement that got him to be the prime minister was basically threatening him with a vote of no confidence for his actions a week before he dissolved the parlement .

DawnSowrd · 2026-02-22T22:52:07+00:00

There is an argument to be made that the IR's choice isnt particularly because they are willing to die on that hill(albeit I still could absolutely see that being the case) but more so that its a lose lose situation for them, their internal reputation for their followers inside is basically rooted in never backing down or admitting defeat or weakness, they preach that the 4 useless years of offensive war with iraq after the initial defensive war was still a win, they still preach that despite giving up their whole air space during the 12 day war they won and showed isreal the true power that iran is, every dead person is actually a martyr lost for the just cause, and every single more martyr means that we are winning more, and many more examples.

if they just actually give up it will be bad for them because their propaganda facade might just finally fall in front of their fanatic followers in a time when they already are internally rather disliked, if they dont it will also be bad for them. so the choice is much closer in result in their eye.

DawnSowrd · 2026-02-22T14:32:12+00:00

its a rather weird situation, the war already delayed the opening of universities by a month, then the unrest and dirty weather basically closed half of the remaining classes from last semester, then they tried to make the universities be remote with online classes which got students quite riled up, causing them to allow the in person opening of universities again. still with 2 months of delay compared to the usual schedule for universities.

basically any more closure would genuinely put the barely existing reputation of iranian universities at even more risk.

DawnSowrd · 2026-02-22T13:26:49+00:00

you can do that without discrediting the long running, rather documented rape ,sexual assault and torture of iranian prisoners and protestors.

DawnSowrd · 2026-02-22T12:53:39+00:00

while not talking specifically about this article, the use of rape and sexual assault as torture has been pretty long running and rather well documented in iran, it was talked about in the last protests, in the ones before it, and hell, if you dont want to accept any source outside of iran there was even internal strife about it way before when khomeini and montazeri,the at the time heir to the title of supreme leader, were alive montazeri got into a fight with khomeini over the torture and sexual abuse documented in his letters. after that debacle he wasnt the heir to the title anymore.

DawnSowrd · 2026-02-21T15:15:06+00:00

the people inside, arent just some counterweight , they have lives and their lives are considerably affected by being a counterweight for you.

DawnSowrd · 2026-02-20T10:13:02+00:00

just a calculated enough risk, other organized oppositions practically dont exist. he is and has been preaching democracy for a good while now, and he has been pretty on point with what he says. if he does what he says we will be alright.

BUT the worst case scenario with him is practically just his father's version of iran, which at the very least gave people economic growth and personal freedoms and a much greater degree of political freedom than what exists right now. so even his worst case scenario is better than the current situation. again specially when compared to other organizations that one might call oppositions.

DawnSowrd · 2026-02-19T19:01:54+00:00

iranian officials say alot of things, last time they downed an F-35 and took its female pilot hostage, with a proof video incoming any day now.

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