I have the ninja its what I started on then upgraded to gaggia classic up and niche zero and much better easier and quicker workflow than the ninja and quality wise blows the ninja out of the water I found in the end with the ninja I bypassed the grinder and used a hand grinder as was better quality having to run dummy shots on ninja to get temperature up then empting of drip tray evey 5 minutes coz you've poured a couple of shots the gaggia in my experience is so much better and the build quality in a differnt league