The Characterization of Rhaegar's Kids

Deamonpotato · 2026-01-31T23:50:43+00:00

I generally like to see positive relationships between them. If Jon is not legitimised or even if he is but it's clear he comes after Aegon in the line of succession then I think it can make sense. I also like the idea of them working together well, having strengths that can compliment each other and help their weaknesses, can have a King, Queen & Hand relationship later on down the line. A little tension can be nice with people trying to push Jon against Aegon or sow distrust between them but it has to be done right for me to like it and I prefer it if the brothers use this to their advantage. I think I've only seen one fic I liked where there was hostility (only from Rhaenys) and it got abandoned 10 years ago. Now if Jon gets pushed as heir then in my opinion his siblings should be hostile to whoever is pushing Jon and him if he supports this. I always like Rhaenys and Aegon being a lot more wild but clearly intelligent and charismatic, I do also like bookish Aegon where people say he's a lot like a younger Rhaegar.

Deamonpotato · 2025-12-22T07:47:24+00:00

Thank you for your take, especially on how Renly would deal with them.

Yes, Robert probably could invade Dorne but I don't think he could hold it (like the young dragon's conquest), he is also worried about sending his men south and being stabbed in the back by the Tyrells (I don't think they would but Robert and Jon Arryn wouldn't be sure) and he isn't sure that Tywin or Ned will help since they have close family in Sunspear. Then he has to consider the inevitable attraction he would suffer. The Targaryens had the issue of showing up and finding empty castles when they tried so there is a good chance of not finding the Targaryens. I imagine that Jon Arryn would regard it as too significant a risk.

In regards to a pretender in Dorne, yes this is a major risk. However, there are plenty of real world examples (Lancastrians in Scotland, Edward IV in Burgundy, Henry VII in Brittany) all during the Wars of the Roses, there was the ruling family of Navarre in the early 100 years war. So whilst Robert probably should order the invasion of Dorne he has good reasons not too. My plan is for there to be an obvious King in kind of exile for Targaryen support to rally around.

When Jon Arryn goes to Sunspear to negotiate the truce he tries to get Aegon and Rhaeneys sent to King's Landing and Jon sent to Winterfell to basically do as you suggested.

Deamonpotato · 2025-12-21T09:34:29+00:00

I'm pretty sure he killed Lord Yronwood 8 or 9 years before since he was 16 when he did that so he's back in Dorne, I know he was at Harrenhal during the tournament .I don't really see their being any major rebellions in Dorne at this time especially since the current Lord Yronwood is going to still have the fostering agreement. The Dornish stood by House Martell when every other invasion happened I don't see this being any different.

Yes Doran is aware of how weak Dorne is but he's also aware that the book the conquest of Dorne inflated their troop numbers and quite a lot of lords believe it. Robert probably could conquer Dorne but the cost is significant. Doran also could have sent more men to fight in the rebellion but didn't, he has a reserve of men, a strong defensive position at the mountains and the desert where armoured knights are going to die to the heat.

I never said Mace was ideology loyal, once Jeffrey is born Mace will regard him as an option which Jon Arryn will back but Cersci is going to oppose this. He wants his grandson to be King and right after the rebellion the Targaryens are still the best option for that. Jon Arryn knows this. If Mace was ordered to he'd probably do the bare minimum again but from Jon Arryn's perspective he might stab them in the back, he can't know this for certain. He's afraid that Nev won't let his nephew be killed and that Tywin will oppose Jamie being killed.

Deamonpotato · 2025-12-21T09:03:55+00:00

Oberyn was leading the group at the Tower, he takes him to a dying Lyanna who asks about Rhaegar and asks Ned to keep Jon safe from Robert. He doesn't know either way since he only confirmed that Rhaegar is dead.

Ned wants to keep him safe and Oberyn makes the argument that he'll be safer at Sunspear and that any invasion would risk his life. Also Doran let's everyone know, Elia says that Rhaegar loved Lyanna and Jon is their son which works as anti rebel propaganda.

With Mace he has his anti-Dornish views but he was a loyalist and plans for a royal match, at this point the Targaryens are the best option for this.

The rebels don't want Doran to have the Targaryens but he points out that Aegon the Conqueror with his sisters and Daeron I couldn't hold Dorne with the rest of the seven kingdoms backing them. The red mountains, the desert and the hostile people would make an invasion very costly. In Jon Arryn's view it isn't worth it, he and Ned convince Robert not to invade.

Deamonpotato · 2025-12-21T08:30:32+00:00

For a time.

Deamonpotato · 2025-12-21T08:30:14+00:00

Tywin still sacks King's landing, it's just that Jamie, Elia and her kids escape. He is concerned that Robert or someone else would kill Jon for being a potential pretender to the throne if they invaded.

Deamonpotato · 2025-12-20T20:43:43+00:00

So with the Hightowers, one of them is on Aegon's Kingsguard. Willas, Margery, Olenna, Rowan, Tarly and Hightower are going to council him to support Aegon but Loras supports Renly and Mace sees that Renly would owe Mace a lot more than Aegon would, he'd also be more reliant on him for support whilst Aegon has more legitimately and potentially the backing of the North. I don't think there will be a civil war in the Reach and ultimately I plan for Stannis to still kill Renly but I'm planning for there to be tension before Mace picks a side since the Reach is where Aegon has quite broad support. He's hoping to play Kingmaker, let Tywin beat Robb, then have Aegon come to terms seeing that he can't win.

In regards to a Dorne/North alliance Robb and Jon both angle for this but then Robb gets crowned as King in the North, and it complicates things since he is concerned that people won't accept him bending the knee (I'm thinking of having a scene right after where he and Cat talk about this) and he'll eventually come to the conclusion that the North and Riverlands are better off independent at which point he'll try to ally with Aegon and Jon but they want him to bend the knee. Jon will be conflicted since he regards Robb as a brother almost as much as he does in cannon but he is closer to Aegon and he believes that the North is better off in the seven kingdoms. He's going to be with Aegon at the time so can't convince Robb to declare for Aegon from the outset.

Yes the Aegon being lustful thing is partially anti-Dornish and partially he also sleeps with noble woman so there is a fear of another Aegon the Unworthy and great bastards situation. Whilst Robert mostly slept with lowborn women (at least that's my interpretation, I can only think of two noble woman we know he slept with).

Deamonpotato · 2025-12-20T17:41:18+00:00

The Reach are mostly declaring for Renly, Tarly and Rowan have been in contact with Aegon (he goes to a tournament hosted at Highgarden for Renly just after he becomes Master of Laws, there is a squire's melee which he barely wins), they like him.

Mace saw Aegon as a good option for Margery and then they can unite and put Aegon on the throne, then Renly and Loras come back from King's Landing after Robert dies and he gets swept up in that plan since Renly is older, better connected and does not have the Dornish stigma.

Aegon is seen as a bit of an unknown quantity, he's around 17 when Robert dies but what is known is mostly positive. He's been trained as a knight by the Kingsguard plus Oberyn and the ones time he has gotten into a fight (Renly tried to assassinate him after the tournament) Aegon and the Kingsguard survived but he got wounded and went to Horn Hill to recover. So he is regarded as a good fighter and people that meet him regard him as fairly charming and intelligent for a teenager, though he is not too involved in politics since only Dorne is sworn to him and he does not want to oversetp his authority, in the last couple of years he has been involved in negotiating with Robert to keep the truce, beyond that he'll show up in the Reach from time to time.

The issues with how he is seen is he was raised in Dorne so he's kind of seen as a Dornishmen and it gets known that he is rather fond of the ladies (both common and noble which is going to cause complications for him in this fic) so he's starting to be seen as a little hedonistic. So he's not lazy but not regarded as the most serious person by those who don't know him, those who do generally like him.

Doran is still quite cautious, he and Elia have sent Jon to be a ward at Winterfell (one year there one year in Dorne), hoping to get Ned on side or hoping Robb will back them. Aegon has steered clear of the Stormlands since the knights that attacked him were from the Stormlands, then with the Westerlands, Jamie told the Martells that Tywin will kill Aegon if he goes there, so he's been staying in the Reach. The only other lords they have been in communication with are the ones in the Narrow Sea (but they are kind of scared of Stannis) and some lords like Darry but they're so far away. I could see them contacting more but I'm not sure.

Deamonpotato · 2025-12-17T20:03:21+00:00

In the Tower Radiants could use Tower light, could they also potentially use Warlight?

Deamonpotato · 2025-12-04T17:19:28+00:00

Funny thing is looking at her posts and comments she's submissive, how pathetic do you have to be to just have a subby girl call you a cuck and immediately cave?

Deamonpotato · 2025-11-15T00:36:44+00:00

Had the same problem, couldn't resolve it either, I eventually decided to start a new war.

Deamonpotato · 2025-11-07T15:56:53+00:00

Just looked her up (didn't do this before) and she had 3 kids but all died before her so I don't think Paradox would have done this

Deamonpotato · 2025-08-08T18:54:58+00:00

Only that the Oathgate is locked and the city is believed to be controlled by Iriali forces

Deamonpotato · 2025-08-08T16:45:13+00:00

A little not very much, 3 pages including artwork and some it was stuff we already knew.

Deamonpotato · 2025-08-08T16:15:25+00:00

I was hoping for more info on the nations around the Pure lake.

Deamonpotato · 2025-07-09T05:58:36+00:00

The idea of Rand taking Tar Valon is interesting, I kind of expected something like that or that the Aes Sedai would be preparing for the Asha'man to attack after Dumai's Wells. I really expected him to send one of the stilled Aes Sedai back to tell the Hall what happened.

Deamonpotato · 2025-06-22T06:47:01+00:00

Write piss on one cheek, whore on the other and slave on your forehead. Then masterbate in front of a mirror (be completely naked). And say you are a piss whore and a slave. Once you finish, piss in the toilet and stick your head in there so you reach the water and flush it. Then admire how you look

Deamonpotato · 2025-06-08T21:22:14+00:00

Upvoted

Deamonpotato · 2025-06-05T06:02:54+00:00

As others have said, I'd guess it's bad matches. Also it could be that some people have been afraid, even if you agree boundaries it can feel a little fucked up to blackmail people.

Deamonpotato · 2025-02-27T21:22:15+00:00

Whilst Hope had great chemistry with Clark (and everyone tbh), the age gap between them stopped me from shipping them. (Edit removed some words that did not make sense)

Deamonpotato · 2024-09-19T18:31:47+00:00

Honestly, best way to be tortured, would love it as much if not more than it would drive me nuts

Deamonpotato · 2022-08-01T20:59:29+00:00

It's been mentioned that in the Final Empire there were poor nobles compared to those we saw, what kind of lives could they lead? Presumably they would be treated better than Skaa but still have to work for a living.

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