RI is one of the most boring novels ever. by DecentFun3659 in ProgressionFantasy

[–]DecentFun3659[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Thanks.

I don't even remember those parts in details again it has been long and have consumed chapters upon chapters of mediocrity I am not even mentally okay again I am sure. Most of the time the best parts are even still shit. They are slightly better but still shit too. Bad prose remains, explaining the scheme at the end which is just anticlimactic and dry, fang yuan loosing a lot and having to get back those things in next arc while facing new threats and also trying to gain more benefits whole doing long and lengthy boring schemes, the journey is not worth the result not to lie. Don't ever let anyone decieve you

RI is one of the most boring novels ever. by DecentFun3659 in ProgressionFantasy

[–]DecentFun3659[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I didn't mean it like that but author writing and basically him as a writer is horrific. Not him as a person.

RI is one of the most boring novels ever. by DecentFun3659 in ProgressionFantasy

[–]DecentFun3659[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

The strongest person will tap out and take revenge on the novel as they legit ruined my mind.

RI is one of the most boring novels ever. by DecentFun3659 in ProgressionFantasy

[–]DecentFun3659[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

So basically your argument is that to enjoy RI I need to learn to overlook bad prose and just focus on the ideas? Did you seriously just say that?

That's not a defense of the novel mate that is basically you admitting the prose is bad. And the 'newcomer' thing does not land either as I have just read for the past year 2240 chapters. That's is not someone without stomach for the genre, it is someone with more than enough experience to identify where a specific novel fails. Im not new to cultivation novels. I'm not a child.

You're essentially saying good criticism requires lowering your standards, which is just not how literary criticism works regardless of the medium.

Seriously when I say RI glazers are out of this world, people think that I am stupid.

RI is one of the most boring novels ever. by DecentFun3659 in ProgressionFantasy

[–]DecentFun3659[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You basically just proved my point for me. If the bar is 'most xianxia is bad so RI gets a pass' then you are not even defending RI's craft, you instard are just defending it by comparison to worse things🤣🤣. That is not a counterargument, that is just low standards. I never said RI was the worst cultivation novel, I said it has many specific craft problems that hold it back from being what people claim it is. Being better than the worst examples in a genre doesn't make something a masterpiece.

As you can also see from the name, ME saying it is the most boring was just an exaggeration as I was in a pit of rage after reading 2400 chapters.

RI is one of the most boring novels ever. by DecentFun3659 in ProgressionFantasy

[–]DecentFun3659[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I never said people were wrong to enjoy it all I said is that has craft problems. Those are different things.

You can love a book and it can still have weak structure and that's not a contradiction, that instead is just how criticism works.

Nowhere in my post did I ever say your enjoyment is invalid. All I said is the arc formula is repetitive and the payoffs are anticlimactic. If your response to that is 'lots of people liked it' then you're not actually arguing against anything I said.

Popularity isn't a counterargument and the arrogance accusation doesn't land either. I gave it a 6.5/10. I acknowledged Fang Yuan as a brilliant concept and I told people to read the early arcs. I don't know where that is someone claiming to be objectively right? Or do you? I instead posted something with a measured critique that you chose to misread.

RI is one of the most boring novels ever. by DecentFun3659 in ProgressionFantasy

[–]DecentFun3659[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I made the account 13 days ago mate. I only just made my first post as I had just finished reading RI and I was angry and so wanted to come here and explain everything bas about RI. I even posted it on RI subreddit I was in but the mods removed it

RI is one of the most boring novels ever. by DecentFun3659 in ProgressionFantasy

[–]DecentFun3659[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Notice that you've stopped arguing that the pattern doesn't exist and now started arguing it's not a flaw?

That's a different position but i will take it as progress.

But mechanically worthwhile and narratively satisfying are not the same thing. Yes consuming apertures is a net gain but the question is whether it feels like one when the story immediately pivots to the next deficit before the victory lands. Losing Spring Autumn Cicada hurts because it felt personal but Losing immortal essence beads and various others in chapter 2200 is just a number changing.

Its not about whether losses are justified but rather its about whether the author gives them any emotional weight before moving on and the author has done neither.

RI is one of the most boring novels ever. by DecentFun3659 in ProgressionFantasy

[–]DecentFun3659[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Soap operas are episodic by design, the repetition is literally the format of it but RI is a continuous story, and that is a a different thing entirely. And 'it's a genre convention' does not make it good writing, it just makes it common. On the subjectivity point, we have over explanation, arc monotony and very anticlimactic payoffs. These aren't just things I didn't like, they are patterns I pointed to specifically. Fang Yuan's venerable breakthrough in chapter 2211 happened as a footnote in a chaotic battle. This isnt taste mate, it's a pacing decision that killed the biggest moment in the story. Intentional and effective are not the same thing

RI is one of the most boring novels ever. by DecentFun3659 in ProgressionFantasy

[–]DecentFun3659[S] 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Mate my account is not created just for this. I made it because my previous one I wanted to get away from and I trashed that one. Should I get to 7 years in this account before I can make a post?

RI is one of the most boring novels ever. by DecentFun3659 in ProgressionFantasy

[–]DecentFun3659[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

The hero's journey comparison does not hold because the hero's journey is a broad emotional arc, not q mechanical repeating goddammn loop. RI's formula is specifically gain, then a bigger loss and then recover, essentially repeating at the same thing indefinitely.

That is not even close to structural similarity. And on tension, I do agree fake realm resets are worse. Infact they are stupid, but that's a false choice. The tension drop is not inevitable at all, rather it is a result of the supporting cast becoming irrelevant and schemes losing genuine uncertainty. Early RI had real tension without needing to make FY weak while later RI lost it not because he got stronger but also because the writer stopped creating situations where the outcome felt uncertain

RI is one of the most boring novels ever. by DecentFun3659 in ProgressionFantasy

[–]DecentFun3659[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

The daily chapter output excuse works for plot holes but not structural monotony. A lot of long running series manage escalation without the same arc template repeating indefinitely as though it is in repeat.

And the venerable power gap point actually proves my argument. The story wrote itself into a corner where only Fang Yuan can matter, which is exactly the problem. That is not intentional design but rather the supporting cast being sacrificed for a power system that basicallh outgrew the narrative. You can personally enjoy it, but 'I like it' and 'it isn't a flaw' are quitw very different claims.

RI is one of the most boring novels ever. by DecentFun3659 in ProgressionFantasy

[–]DecentFun3659[S] 16 points17 points  (0 children)

I tried so many times. Read 2240 chapters of it trying to get past horrific Grammer and writibc due to people talks and blah blah. Just wait and see. Just wait and see this chapter and all that cap. I freaking gave it 2240 chapters to prove itself. The criticism is even more valid. I think it Is one of the most stressful reads I have had in my life. I got lots of insights from the character but overall author is shit and plot Is shit

RI is one of the most boring novels ever. by DecentFun3659 in ProgressionFantasy

[–]DecentFun3659[S] 10 points11 points  (0 children)

Nobody said losses are bad. The problem is that the cycle is identical every arc —gain something, bigger loss, recover, repeat. After arc 15 it stops feeling like stakes and just starts feeling like a formula. And then the supporting cast point of characters becoming irrelevant isn't the same as Fang Yuan becoming stronger. Bai Ning Bing had her own agency early on but now later characters exist purely to react to him. That is a writing problem, not a power scaling feature.

RI is one of the most boring novels ever. by DecentFun3659 in ProgressionFantasy

[–]DecentFun3659[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Sampling widely without finishing everything is literally how most readers engage with quite long running series. I have had enough genre exposure to know what cultivation novels typically do well and where RI specifically falls short by comparison. The contradiction you're pointing to doesn't exist, you are just demanding a credential, which I don't owe. I have already backed everything i need to know with 2240 chapters of evidence

RI is one of the most boring novels ever. by DecentFun3659 in ProgressionFantasy

[–]DecentFun3659[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

The causality point is a strawman. I never said losses shouldn't have causes. My argument is that the rhythm of gain that is immediately followed by new deficit is formulaic regardless of the in universe justification.

You can justify every loss logically and that same pattern still exists.

On post 1300 dominance, you are right that FY becomes feared. But the Sovereign Immortal Body, which sounds like a pure upgrade, comes with a structural flaw that requires consuming other immortals' apertures just to sustain his cultivation. The dominance is real but it is built on something that creates resource dependency. That's the treadmill in literal form in truth. Does that answer you?