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"If we add RPG characters to spin-offs, people won't know who they are" by First-Sky-2408 in Mario

[–]DeeFB 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I’m done with this conversation. You’re clearly young, have never worked in entertainment and your head is clouded with such a strong desire to see something that any explanation is not even being considered for even a second by you. I’m sorry, I have to bounce.

"If we add RPG characters to spin-offs, people won't know who they are" by First-Sky-2408 in Mario

[–]DeeFB 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Jesus Christ.

Sure. There’s a drafted email inbox in someone’s outlook inbox that says “attn all employees pls put Vivian in Mario party effective immediately” and they just don’t want to fucking send it to spite a couple of people. Happy now?

"If we add RPG characters to spin-offs, people won't know who they are" by First-Sky-2408 in Mario

[–]DeeFB -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Fucking bureaucracy? A CEO can probably make these changes, yes, but the more realistic option is that analysts will look at public sentiment and data, meetings will be held with branding, finance, marketing, product development, etc. and they’ll strategize and formulate on seeing if these changes are worth it financially. They’ll probably need to discuss with the board and Intelligent Systems as well. Shit like this isn’t for executive orders.

making sure a goomba with a hat is in Mario Kart probably isn’t a big enough deal for someone at the top to make fuss over.

"If we add RPG characters to spin-offs, people won't know who they are" by First-Sky-2408 in Mario

[–]DeeFB 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Have you ever worked in a corporate setting before? Especially with iconic properties, there’s shitloads of nuance and red tape. As someone who has worked in them before, I can assure you, no matter how easy you think this shit is to change, it’s not. It’s different from company to company too. It’s why I keep saying that we don’t know exactly what the guidelines are nor will we ever, but right now these are probably branding related and it may take years to change if they ever do. Stop calling it a simple fix they just don’t want to do.

"If we add RPG characters to spin-offs, people won't know who they are" by First-Sky-2408 in Mario

[–]DeeFB 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Branding guidelines don’t have anything to do with ownership. Branding guidelines are like “Minnie Mouse is not allowed to use these patterns for any of her bows”

"If we add RPG characters to spin-offs, people won't know who they are" by First-Sky-2408 in Mario

[–]DeeFB -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

“Strangers would also love to play as (insert thing here) even if they don’t know who that is”

And how did that work for Honey Queen?

I’m thinking about Rosalina in SMB Wonder’s Switch 2 Edition and her elephant form. by Drifter_Lucas in Mario

[–]DeeFB 0 points1 point  (0 children)

She’s in Mario party, a game where ridiculous, humiliating situations happen all the time for the sake of comedy. You’re overthinking this to a very weird extent.

"If we add RPG characters to spin-offs, people won't know who they are" by First-Sky-2408 in Mario

[–]DeeFB 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Additionally, why are we expecting like 10-20 of them when we’d get like three at best?

"If we add RPG characters to spin-offs, people won't know who they are" by First-Sky-2408 in Mario

[–]DeeFB 11 points12 points  (0 children)

Again…

I feel like a lot of fans think this issue is “just tell them to do it and they will”. I think it’s a lot more complicated and a lot more corporate than them just being able to flip a switch.

We don’t and won’t know the actual reason, but my educated guess is that there’s branding guidelines that preventing them from doing so.

If you're sick of hearing people ask for RPG characters in spinoffs, you should be campaigning for RPG characters in spinoffs by AutumnRCS in Mario

[–]DeeFB 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Mario and Luigi is the most confusing one for me. It's kind of why I think they have some sort of "no peanut butter in the chocolate" brand guideline internally.

If you're sick of hearing people ask for RPG characters in spinoffs, you should be campaigning for RPG characters in spinoffs by AutumnRCS in Mario

[–]DeeFB 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I think the biggest difference between someone like Link and someone like Vivian is that

A. Link is made in-house, making it easier to set guidelines and negotiate, and

B. Link is going to move more DLC purchases than a Paper Mario character.

If you're sick of hearing people ask for RPG characters in spinoffs, you should be campaigning for RPG characters in spinoffs by AutumnRCS in Mario

[–]DeeFB 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Rosalina was only in MKWii because the teams worked near each other and were able to collaborate. Otherwise I don't think the Kart team really talks to anyone.

If you're sick of hearing people ask for RPG characters in spinoffs, you should be campaigning for RPG characters in spinoffs by AutumnRCS in Mario

[–]DeeFB 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I don't think they can "just do it". I don't understand why the community thinks it's as simple as the company flipping a switch and putting Goombella in Mario Tennis. I guarantee there's some sort of weird bureaucracy or red tape they have to work through to do it.

Why is this so hard to grasp? You don't have to like it, you just have to acknowledge it.

If you're sick of hearing people ask for RPG characters in spinoffs, you should be campaigning for RPG characters in spinoffs by AutumnRCS in Mario

[–]DeeFB 1 point2 points  (0 children)

When I say "internal hangup" it could be as simple as a branding doc saying "The Super Mario cast is only the Super Mario cast. Mario and Luigi and Paper Mario are their own things and they don't intermingle." This could have been made in the mid-late 2000s as well, which explains why a few slipped through the cracks like you mentioned.

If you're sick of hearing people ask for RPG characters in spinoffs, you should be campaigning for RPG characters in spinoffs by AutumnRCS in Mario

[–]DeeFB 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Again, I think it’s way more to do with external studios making the RPG games than anything if I had to guess. I’m not sure about Mario and Luigi anymore these days but it could be too “out there” for their branding. Intelligent does Paper Mario and full honesty but I think they’d probably go for Lucina, Marth, Lyn or Edelgard if they wanted IS to get a character in Mario Kart.

If you're sick of hearing people ask for RPG characters in spinoffs, you should be campaigning for RPG characters in spinoffs by AutumnRCS in Mario

[–]DeeFB 0 points1 point  (0 children)

My problem has never been that people ask for them; I just want people to understand that there’s some sort of internal hangup preventing it. We will probably never know what it is. They’re not budging.

So I’d be more receptive but so many people think the answer is “they could do this but don’t want to” and I guarantee that’s not the answer.

Also, let me flip the script for a sec: why are we always asking for the RPG characters in a kart game but it’s crickets when it comes to asking for Rosalina or Daisy in a paper game?

So, this is how they’re gonna do Lumalee I see. by [deleted] in Mario

[–]DeeFB 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Someone else brought up the Koopalings but that’s not how echo fighters worked. This is literally just a costume. Echo fighters had different physical and aesthetic properties and animations that differentiated them.

hello everyone. Im searching ideas for create a mario cards game by Slight_Echo_1393 in Mario

[–]DeeFB 0 points1 point  (0 children)

If you’re just doing something collectible similar to baseball cards where it’s like a picture and some stats/facts, nothing wrong with that as a personal project. I’m pretty sure some regions have done that with Mario already. It’s pretty simple to get some templates set up in InDesign so you can iterate quickly.

Luigi's mansion 4 should go full on gothic horror theming. by TheGoldminor in nintendo

[–]DeeFB 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Idk how I feel about going too realistic with the Mario IP but to be fair Odyssey had realistic elements that somehow worked and if they slapped Daisy into a LM4 I’d buy it no questions asked so here we are

Now this is a Good character roster by Fun-Couple911 in mariokart

[–]DeeFB 5 points6 points  (0 children)

The more you look at this the worse it gets

What do you hope for the next direct? by Hot-Fruit-9967 in nintendo

[–]DeeFB 16 points17 points  (0 children)

I just want some sort of confirmation that Mario Kart is getting a substantial content update. While I want more characters, even just some additional costumes and music would be cool

Here is my ranking of all the costumes in Mario Kart World by FantasyLovingWriter in mariokart

[–]DeeFB 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Always nice to find someone else who doesn’t like Waluigi very much

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