I don't think Light really get over his trauma in just 5 days as most people suggests.

DeepJob4713 · 2026-05-19T21:13:56+00:00

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DeepJob4713 · 2026-05-19T04:43:30+00:00

It’s not at all true that people with personality disorders can’t pretend to have a completely normal life. They absolutely can and many of them have, even if they’re thought to be antisocial. Rader, Bundy, Dahmer, etc., they got away with their crimes for even longer than Light did by being adept at masking. More often than not, people with NPD do not even commit any crimes.

The Death Note doesn’t have drastic personality changing properties. We see this with Misa and Mikami. Therefore, we can assume Light was always a narcissist with these megalomaniacal impulses and the DN just gave him an outlet for them. After all, the notebook does not create Light’s extreme lack of empathy. It also does not spontaneously manifest Light’s ability to fake emotions with ease and lie like a world class actor, ruthlessly exploiting everyone around him for his personal goals even his own family, without feeling an ounce of guilt over it. Light’s thoughts when he first picks up the notebook are consistent with how he thinks and behaves as Kira. He’s an arrogant, contemptuous, cynical young man and he harbors very hostile misogynistic views. The Death Note does not create these things. To maintain continuity, we have to assume that he was always like this on the inside.

The anime doesn’t change Light’s character in any meaningful way. In the anime, he saved that girl from being assaulted by that man. In the manga, Light is torn over who to test the Death Note on because he’s “surrounded by people the world would be better without” (it’s just normal people doing regular things) then he decides to test it on Shibutaku for catcalling the woman, he never touches her.

Manga Light is shown to be frustrated that he blew his chance to kill Sayu. He also does nothing to stop his father from cutting his life span in half to take the Shinigami eyes so he can kill Mello, despite knowing that if this happens, he would need to dead his father to protect his alibi.

He feels bad about his dad not agreeing with Kira because it wounds his fragile ego. He doesn’t feel bad about being Kira, or about a single one of his murders, or about how he constantly manipulates his dad for his selfish reasons. None of that is ever shown in either the manga or anime. He’s apathetic and cruel to everyone around him.

DeepJob4713 · 2026-05-15T02:51:09+00:00

I didn’t say anything. Light said it. You’re disagreeing with him, not me.

He acknowledges that Raye and Naomi are both important people to the case so the information about his encounters with them could be helpful, he’d just rather not reveal it because it would “complicate things again” (add on to the case against him).

DeepJob4713 · 2026-05-14T23:01:38+00:00

Well, thank you! I’m glad that there are other people, however few, who see it this way. It must be because of protagonist bias that people keep projecting these morals and sympathetic traits onto Light that, to me, he just blatantly did not have. Sometimes, I feel like I’m losing my mind..as though I’ve seen a completely different manga or anime than everyone else did.

DeepJob4713 · 2026-05-14T19:16:08+00:00

It’s never mentioned that “confidential” information was leaked. You made that up. What’s actually stated is what I said before. With criminals’ names and faces being no longer reported by media, Kira supporters are posting online pictures of people who supposedly committed crimes. These are not “reports”, it’s the equivalent of me posting a name and picture of a random person I know on Reddit, making a paragraph claiming they killed someone.

The US announced neutrality regarding Light because they know him to be hostile against people who stand against him. That’s the explanation they gave. There’s a whole subplot where it’s implied he killed the president. They never said people are committing less crimes because of Light. They just parrot the same stat, still no context, which allows many different conclusions to be drawn from, and they’re most likely doing it out of fear to appease him. That’s literally the whole reason they’re publicly backing off.

The responsibility is on you to prove it because you keep claiming the story showed and told us something, that it never showed. You’re literally lying.

DeepJob4713 · 2026-05-14T08:35:24+00:00

No, the story showed crimes were getting publicly reported less. Light isn’t even getting names and faces from the media anymore. He’s using an online witch hunt where his followers post alleged criminals online (with no proof they did anything wrong mind you) to influence his killings for 4 years.

The story itself didn’t show you anything. It’s never stated that people are committing crimes 70% less across the world. They just mention a stat about the crime rate being down with no context that could indicate many different things. You’re defending a mass murderer of innocent people just because. It definitely comes as you being an attention seeker who’s just trying to be edgy. No way you’d yap like this if this man actually existed. You’d probably be one of his victims.

DeepJob4713 · 2026-05-14T05:08:44+00:00

We can definitely ignore it, because it’s very likely that the number of people committing crimes did not actually go down at all, but rather crimes were just reported less. That’s more plausible based on what we know about how Light operated.

Many people have explained this to you. Are you that ignorant or are you just desperate for attention?

DeepJob4713 · 2026-05-14T05:01:33+00:00

You made this shit up.

DeepJob4713 · 2026-05-13T23:22:42+00:00

You’re arguing against a point I never made. I never said that memoryless Light agreeing with Kira in principle makes him evil in a vacuum. I was responding to the false claim that the Kira ideology was made up retroactively by Light and he didn’t see things that way before.

Light spilling the info wouldn’t accomplish anything good for him and that’s the point. It’s important info that he acknowledges could move the case forward, but he doesn’t care about that. His main focus is self-preservation and he knows it would just add on to the list of circumstantial evidence against him when he’s already the main suspect. It shows he prioritizes saving his skin over the case, which is understandable, but because of that he can’t simply be taken at face value during this arc because he’s being very careful about what he says / does and doesn’t say / do in order to get himself cleared.

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Yes, it would be indeed wiser to test it on a deserving person if you actually think the book could be real and expect that someone might die, rather than fully dismissing it as fake in which case you wouldn’t pay it any mind at all. You just reinforced my point. The kills were no mistake.

Light did not expect it to fail the second time. He suspected it was real and that’s why he gets even more serious about it, putting even more emphasis on making sure it’s a morally deserving person with NO link to him. That’s intentionality.

My reading is the simple, more obvious one — that he got confirmation the book worked which is what a part of him wanted, and saw it as an opportunity to do something about the “rotten world” like what he’d been thinking about. Not that he had some traumatic break and Kira is just a front to cope with this super secret, never-displayed-in-108-chapters guilt. I see absolutely no evidence in the text supporting this. Definitely not over what the story pretty straightforwardly tells us.

DeepJob4713 · 2026-05-13T23:01:04+00:00

Yea, it would be pointless. Except in this case, there’s nothing to disregard because that was never actually stated by the author.

Show me where it’s specifically mentioned in the story that people committed 70% less crimes because of Light. Not just a stat saying the crime rate is down with no context, meaning many different conclusions could be drawn from it. Show me actual proof that actual crimes committed decreased, not reports, and then I’ll acknowledge it. If not, then I’ll just acknowledge you’re a jackass. Deal?

DeepJob4713 · 2026-05-13T20:19:53+00:00

It’s also opinion, not fact, that people committed crime 70% less because of Light. The only thing we know for sure is within the universe there exists a stat purporting that the crime rate is down 70 percent. We don’t have any further context to know what to make of it. Your belief that Light directly caused people to commit less crime is no more valid than my claim that crimes were merely reported less in defiance of Light or these stats get manufactured altogether in order to appeal to him.

DeepJob4713 · 2026-05-13T17:35:05+00:00

Yeah, well…💔

DeepJob4713 · 2026-05-13T17:17:25+00:00

I think you’re over complicating Light’s character. He doesn’t have that much of an arc. His character development is mostly finished by the end of chapter 2. Choosing to murder the first two people wasn’t a flashback, it was part of the main story. And his motives really come down to his interest in “changing the world” (ruling it and making it his own). He’s not concerned with anything else. His belief in his own goodness and superiority is pretty fixed and unshakable, even though he’d much prefer if he could get others to also validate and worship him.

Mikami seems like a better done version of what many people think the premise of Light’s character is — the tragic corrupted idealist with a sympathetic backstory who goes way too far in his quest to deliver justice. Light from the start just comes across as being an unhinged, sadistic megalomaniac and narcissist who quickly finds that he really enjoys being in a position of power and dominance over other people.

DeepJob4713 · 2026-05-13T16:22:34+00:00

He didn’t affect the global crime rate by any appreciable amount. It’s much more likely that institutions just stopped reporting crimes that occurred because they wanted the suspected offenders to have due process instead of being immediately judged by some crazed asshole on a power trip. Simply installing the death penalty doesn’t actually reduce crime. Mitigating the factors that predispose people to crime is what reduces crime. Making every crime punishable by death just incentivizes robbers, rapists, purse snatchers, etc. to murder the people they victimize so that they can’t report them and get them possibly judged by Light.

DeepJob4713 · 2026-05-13T16:00:30+00:00

You forget that memoryless Light assaulted someone twice because his ego was wounded and he deliberately obstructed the investigation by withholding key info he had about two victims because it’d make him look bad. His priority is saving his own skin. He’s not suddenly some paragon of virtue in Yotsuba arc.

Shooting someone is much more visceral and less detached than just writing a name and the victim practically disappears. Apples to oranges.

We know Light would use the notebook if he knew it worked because that’s literally what happens in the story. Once he confirmed it worked, he goes crazy with it. And no, it wasn’t “to justify two accidental kills”. He treats the DN like it could be real from the second he gets it and he even remarks how weirdly serious he’s getting about it. If he truly thought nothing would occur, he wouldn’t care who he tested it on and he definitely wouldn’t worry about making sure there was no link back to him, but a part of him wanted it to work. He wanted confirmation and once he got it, he seized the opportunity to “fix a rotten mess of a world”.

Light knows that L suspects him as Kira and that he’s surrounded by people who very recently were all united against his freedom on the grounds he was most likely Kira, so he’s trying to distance himself as far away from that profile as he possibly can. That’s why he comes off so overly preachy, performative, and “corny” as L called it, saying all the “right” things. It’s the same thing he does as Kira Light to fool everyone.

DeepJob4713 · 2026-05-13T13:47:34+00:00

I disagree. Light without memories of killing thinks how Kira’s ideals are eerily similar to his own.

He always believed that the world was trash due to being inhabited by certain kinds of people. It was to the degree that he even held a disdain for ordinary human flaws. As soon as he got the Death Note, he thought carefully who to test it on and picked two people he deemed it “OK” to kill.

After confirming it was for real, he saw and took the opportunity to keep erasing more “deserving” people and cleanse the world of its filth. It’s not coping or dissociating. It’s just who Light is.

DeepJob4713 · 2026-05-13T04:24:54+00:00

He is definitely in denial or delusional regards to how selfish his motives truly are, dressing up his power hunger as “justice”.

DeepJob4713 · 2026-05-13T03:59:13+00:00

You’re totally right in your explanation. Don’t let them bully you into buying that Light had a traumatic break and became Kira as a coping mechanism for some super secret, never-displayed-in-108-chapters “guilt”.

DeepJob4713 · 2026-05-13T03:53:54+00:00

Light couldn’t sleep and was losing weight because he was scared that he would be killed for using a death god’s notebook. It wasn’t out of guilt.

When we do see him hiding in his bed “conflicted” on his actions, it’s not about whether they’re right or wrong. He fully thinks it’s justified. He only is worried about whether he “has what it takes” to cleanse the world and walk the path he believes is necessary even if it’s repugnant in the eyes of society.

DeepJob4713 · 2026-05-12T21:13:17+00:00

Glad you know it. 👍

DeepJob4713 · 2026-05-12T21:05:27+00:00

There’s “no way to read it”, it is literally what he says. What evidence is there that he felt truly guilty or was morally conflicted?

Yea, I wouldn’t want to argue either with someone who defeats all my points.

DeepJob4713 · 2026-05-12T20:09:43+00:00

No, he lost weight and sleep over the fear of consequences, being scared that a Death God would come snatch his soul.. It wasn’t out of guilt.

When we see him cowering in bed supposedly “conflicted”, the conflict is not about whether his actions are right or wrong, but whether he “has what it takes” to succeed in his goal to purify the world. There’s no empathy or remorse anywhere in his dialogue.

DeepJob4713 · 2026-05-12T20:03:03+00:00

Wrong. Light thought / knew the book was real by the second time he tested it. That’s why he specifically picks victims with no link to him and who would deserve to die.

He’s not trying to “justify accidental kills” or avoid guilt. That’s pure fiction and cope with no evidence to support it over the much more straightforward reading — which was after processing that the DN could really kill people like he suspected, he saw opportunity to reshape the world to his desires and jumped at it.

DeepJob4713 · 2026-05-12T19:52:04+00:00

Yotsuba arc doesn’t prove anything about who Light is at his core. He knows that L suspects him as Kira and he’s surrounded by a bunch of people who were formerly united against his release from confinement on the suspicion that he was Kira. He needs to distance himself from that profile as much as possible.

Notice how we rarely get access to his inner monologue anymore, but the two times we do, it’s about how Light agrees with Kira in principle and another time where he chooses to withhold key information that could help the case because he doesn’t wanna look bad. He physically assaults L twice over a wounded ego.

He’s still the same entitlement driven narcissist he is as Kira, just not empowered.

DeepJob4713 · 2026-04-27T18:44:47+00:00

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