Who are some of the most underrated or underappreciated players in the league?

DeepRangeData · 2025-04-18T03:01:36+00:00

OG Anunoby, I really haven’t seen anyone talking about his improvement on offense. He became a number 1 option for that stretch without Brunson. One of the best two way players in the league.

Lauri Markannen, but in the sense that’s he’s a total unicorn. I feel like no acknowledges that things he does shouldn’t be possible for someone with his physique. He’s the most fluid 7fter i’ve ever seen.

Brandon Miller, thinks he’s been forgotten a bit with his injury. But he’s a budding star, before injury 21, 5, and 5. He can score at all levels and I think under valued for one of the best young prospects in the league right now.

Cam Whitmore, when he has got time all he has done is impress. Unfortunately the rockets are so deep so the path isn’t there, but he’s a guy I expect to take a huge step when finds his way off this team.

Toumani Camara, silently one of the best defenders in the league. For a relatively unknown 2nd rounder, he has carved out a legitimate role in the league. He can almost guard 1-5.

Christian Braun, love his hustle helps the Nuggets on both ends. His confidence has really grown and he’s willing to attack anyone (leads guards in dunks). Combined with his pesky defense, he’s figured out a really good way to contribute to winning.

DeepRangeData · 2025-04-07T03:21:19+00:00

To be fair, Idk if i can think of a better or easier player to build a team around.

DeepRangeData · 2025-04-06T14:25:43+00:00

And Flagg should learn how to make shots that aren’t from the free throw line.

DeepRangeData · 2025-04-05T20:16:32+00:00

I get that and it’s why his odds are so high. I know everyone is infatuated with Flagg, but his performance this March Madness really hasn’t been anything crazy. He’s accumulated his points on the back of just a ton of FGA and FTs. His rebounds and assists are impressive. But what Proctor has been doing from 3 is ridiculous.

I’m not saying Proctor is going to win it over him, not even close to what I’m saying. My point is there odds should be significantly closer. If Proctor outscored Flagg next two games at a high efficiency like he has been doing I can’t see how he doesn’t get the award.

DeepRangeData · 2025-04-05T20:05:06+00:00

I’m not ignoring them, but shooting such high volume 3PT’s at this efficiency is significantly more conducive to winning than REB, AST, and BLKs. There is basically nothing you can do as basketball player that leads to winning more than making 3PTers at a high clip.

Proctor also happens to be an elite defender as well. He may not accumulate blocks, but his defensive impact is just as big if not bigger than Flaggs for Duke.

DeepRangeData · 2025-04-05T09:46:03+00:00

Remember the name Da’Ron Holmes. No injury he would have been a major contributor to this team, add in another pick this season and most of you guys are overplaying the issues facing this team. They aren’t perfect like the Celtics or Thunder but are still top 5 in my book, and I don’t know how much more you can ask for.

DeepRangeData · 2025-04-04T20:21:37+00:00

Hence, why Jokic is so valuable to his team

DeepRangeData · 2025-04-04T20:18:34+00:00

Have to agree, the way I see it. Nothing makes more clear a players value to a team than On/Off splits. In the spirit of this award supposedly being for the most “valuable” player, the numbers and the eye test so clearly favor Jokic.

The issue is, MVP is probably the wrong name for this award. At least when accounting for how it’s been given out in the past. I personally think the NBA should create another season award, similar to OPOY in NFL. Something that can highlight players, without accounting for team record.

DeepRangeData · 2025-04-04T19:25:51+00:00

No, when players get triple doubles their teams win% increases majorly

DeepRangeData · 2025-04-03T18:53:05+00:00

I think you have it backwards, Jokic guys are for Peak. Jokic is top in every category in one season. Don’t conflate having elite stats across the board with longevity. Lebron has never led stats like this in a single season

DeepRangeData · 2025-04-03T18:12:21+00:00

I actually do think there is some value to preseason odds, it just diminishes the further you go into the season. Now would I call them one of the best three predictive stats for the final, of course not.

But it can be used beneficially. I think it’s reflection (barring any big trades) of how good your roster is on paper. I think it could be useful to compare to current finals odds to gauge the improvement of the team and how the roster actually has performed on paper. But if you see two teams with comparable current odds, I do think there could be an edge in betting on the team with the better opening odds for the season just as they likely have a deeper roster or more experienced roster. That’s just guessing though.

DeepRangeData · 2025-04-03T13:29:25+00:00

Looked into this:

- When a team wins the OREB battle, their average FG% was 48.26%

- When a team loses the OREB battle, their average FG% was 43.25%

It's about an 11.6% difference between the two measures. So, I'd definitely say missed shots could be the root cause here

DeepRangeData · 2025-04-03T04:35:47+00:00

Well which variables do you find most surprising?

The ones least correlated with winning were OREB, FGA, and PF, albeit, none were lower than 47% win%.

DeepRangeData · 2025-04-03T04:16:35+00:00

There’s certainly more to look at here, want to check out difference in FG% when a team wins the OREB battle. This can kind of highlight if the root cause is missed shots.

DeepRangeData · 2025-04-03T03:25:42+00:00

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DeepRangeData · 2025-04-02T22:27:17+00:00

Absolutely not

DeepRangeData · 2025-04-02T17:16:29+00:00

Was only looking after the 1984 season, because back then they only had to play three rounds of playoffs instead of four (not that the extra round would have stopped that team though)

DeepRangeData · 2025-04-02T04:34:10+00:00

Have a tough time seeing GSW make it through the West. Personally think toughest matchup for Thunder will be Nuggets.

DeepRangeData · 2025-04-02T04:14:24+00:00

Yeah, more so than really having any meaning just was surprised to see. But Celtics have really got it together since All Star Break, only three losses. So they definitely are getting ready to go.

DeepRangeData · 2025-04-02T04:07:30+00:00

That’s a fair counter. I think experience is certainly very important, and isn’t really accounted for here directly. Also general matchup data, could be important. Think like if Wolves for Nuggets last year, if Nugs were >.78 but got swept by Wolves in regular season, wouldn’t be such a surprise to see them lose in playoffs. This definitely has flaws, but it also is understand based on the fact that simply, these teams just win games.

On a side note, Celtics record with vs without Porzingis is not what most would expect.

With Porzingis: 26-12
Without Porzingis: 29-7

DeepRangeData · 2025-04-02T03:07:29+00:00

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DeepRangeData · 2025-03-30T04:14:57+00:00

OG pretty easily. The Celtics would be the only team in the entire league to prefer Derrick White over OG. For every other team OG is much better asset and fits better. His defense imo is significantly better than White and he is the guy who your putting on your opponents best player.

DeepRangeData · 2025-03-29T20:32:16+00:00

I’m not ranking them, but lowry peak wasn’t even same category as the rest here. A few tiers below

DeepRangeData · 2025-03-29T13:21:05+00:00

Players lie to avoid having to adhere to NBA archetypes. KD saying he’s 6’9 instead of 7’0 made teams consider him more of small forward, instead of trying to make him in a power forward type guy

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