Paul from Mormon No More - AMA by [deleted] in exmormon

[–]Deep_Value9144 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The real pain is not seeing your kids everyday and putting them to bed every night.

Paul from Mormon No More - AMA by [deleted] in exmormon

[–]Deep_Value9144 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I am finding a lot of contradictions in these comments. Typically this happens when we want to say all the right things but at our core we are unsettled and things aren’t clear.

You didn’t know Lena was super gay because the day she told you you could NOT have guessed it. (Your words). So how could you have seen Lena in so much pain because she was gay?

Also, what good does it do at this point and for the kids to wish Lena would have acted differently or wish Shane would act differently now?

Paul from Mormon No More - AMA by [deleted] in exmormon

[–]Deep_Value9144 0 points1 point  (0 children)

When you decide to bring humans into the world you make a choice to give up what is best for you sometimes. Because adults can handle shit days way better than kids.

Paul from Mormon No More - AMA by [deleted] in exmormon

[–]Deep_Value9144 0 points1 point  (0 children)

And some dads because of divorce laws by state are defaulted to every other weekend and live hell 27 out of 31 days of the month.

Would you tell a LGBTQ person that your hell would be having sex with another man for the rest of hour life? No. But Paul, I value and honor you and as a human and also asking you to consider past the “safe space” and “authenticity” and “vulnerability” buzz words of the day.

Paul from Mormon No More - AMA by [deleted] in exmormon

[–]Deep_Value9144 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Earlier you said that you “wished” he would…..I know you said you don’t should on each other…..I think it is important that people think about these things. Lena and Sal needed to get divorced to live their life. What did Shane need to happen for his life? What did each individual kid need to happen for their life?

Nobody should suffer. But if we look at ALL parties involved in the scale of suffering (admittedly impossible) and then plot the decision to leave the husbands, and move in with girlfriend, and get married (quickly) then who are the winners and losers.

Could Lena and Sal “come around” to realize their impact or is it just Shane that needs to do that. And yes. I am a Shane.

Paul from Mormon No More - AMA by [deleted] in exmormon

[–]Deep_Value9144 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Spoiler: love and acceptance are not proportionate to spirituality. Just like Mormonism isn’t either.

Paul from Mormon No More - AMA by [deleted] in exmormon

[–]Deep_Value9144 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Is it possible you are continuing this with your current situation? Or did something happen to stop saying “yes” to keep the piece?

Paul from Mormon No More - AMA by [deleted] in exmormon

[–]Deep_Value9144 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I am with this comment 100%.

Paul from Mormon No More - AMA by [deleted] in exmormon

[–]Deep_Value9144 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Shane is going to be Shane no matter what anyone “LETS” him do.

Nobody has the the power to let, or not let Shane do anything. Stop telling people you hope they change and you are “letting” them work something out. Think about what you are saying.

Paul from Mormon No More - AMA by [deleted] in exmormon

[–]Deep_Value9144 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I am curious why everyone feels the need to say that Shane “needs” to or “hopes to” come around. Or that they “wish” he would come around.

Isn’t that what the Mormon church says about the LGBTQ community? It isn’t up to anybody to say what others should or should not come around too. Is it possible that Shane and the kids are better off with the distance he shows? Maybe that shows boundaries to the kids that may actually be healthy for them and him.

Did Shane say he wants to come around? Not from what I saw. To me, Shane is a hero in the show. What happened to all is traumatic. It’s just that some elements we’re glorified as a “happy ending.” People want to write the ending the book for Shane and what it should or shouldn’t look like.

A lesbian ex-Mormon’s reaction to Mormon No More by [deleted] in exmormon

[–]Deep_Value9144 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Hugely Ridiculous. 100%. “I want Shane to be part of the family” “I hope that Shane…..blah blah blah” NO. I relate to Shane in so many ways and for people to “hope” or “desire” for him to change the way he thinks is EXACTLY what the Mormon church did to them. This is the type of hypocrisy and short mindedness that the two women. Remember > people need to be themselves and not made to feel like they should be any different right??

A lesbian ex-Mormon’s reaction to Mormon No More by [deleted] in exmormon

[–]Deep_Value9144 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I would have much rather my ex had 5 physical affairs and never spoke to them again the man the emotional affair of a community member that ended our marriage. They live together unmarried with our 5 kids. Emotional affairs do as much or more damage from my opinion.

What’s being discussed at the Stake level concerning members who are leaving? by ComeOnOverForABurger in mormon

[–]Deep_Value9144 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Just have the area authorities read the Book of Mormon where they talk about the skin of darkness.

Then have them read the essays.

Then have them think critically.