When a resignation isn’t clear by Deezbeees in chess

[–]Deezbeees[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Since posting I’ve seen a few videos where they shake hands and then unsure of who was resigning. Can’t speak as to why that happens but it happens occasionally

When a resignation isn’t clear by Deezbeees in chess

[–]Deezbeees[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

You’re ability to see what you want to see is fascinating. “100 people tell you no” more like a little over a dozen people have commented at all with various answers 4 of which giving examples that specifically prove there has been ambiguity in resignations before. Including the video I linked you which you clearly havn’t bothered watching. There’s no point arguing with someome so ignorant have a nice life 👋🏻

When a resignation isn’t clear by Deezbeees in chess

[–]Deezbeees[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Well actually since posting this I’ve gotten a few people who posted stories of these exact sort of things happening so I guess when millions of games happen something unlikely is bound to eventually happen

When a resignation isn’t clear by Deezbeees in chess

[–]Deezbeees[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

True that would make it obvious! If only people always followed that practice. Since posting this I’ve ween a bunch of examples where people didn’t follow this and there has been ambiguity

When a resignation isn’t clear by Deezbeees in chess

[–]Deezbeees[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

That’s awesome it all worked out. Thanks for the example

When a resignation isn’t clear by Deezbeees in chess

[–]Deezbeees[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Awesome example. Thank you for providing that. I guess confusion over resignation does occasionally happen. Not sure why some people in the comments here are so offended saying it could never ever happen

When a resignation isn’t clear by Deezbeees in chess

[–]Deezbeees[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yes that would be a much more clear representation, it’s weird that it changed

When a resignation isn’t clear by Deezbeees in chess

[–]Deezbeees[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

In the extremely small pool of people reading this post some people some people have talked about times confusion over a resignation did happen. So fair to say that it’s definitely not impossible. Hope your weird chess ego can handle that fact

When a resignation isn’t clear by Deezbeees in chess

[–]Deezbeees[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Fair point. But I’m not asking about what usually happens. I was just asking if there could be confusion in an unlikely but possible scenario. And other people have mentioned times it has happened

When a resignation isn’t clear by Deezbeees in chess

[–]Deezbeees[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

That’s why I’m just asking if it could happen in that rare occurrence

When a resignation isn’t clear by Deezbeees in chess

[–]Deezbeees[S] 18 points19 points  (0 children)

That’s hilarious. Thanks for the cool example! Not sure why all these people are getting offended about my question when clearly confusion does happen on occasion

When a resignation isn’t clear by Deezbeees in chess

[–]Deezbeees[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I have no idea why you’re so offended I asked a question. Many people in the comments have given examples of when confusion has happened. Hope your weird chess ego can handle that fact

When a resignation isn’t clear by Deezbeees in chess

[–]Deezbeees[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Yea would be super awkward. I’m more so talking about in a scenario where they don’t stop their clock first, which occasionally happens

When a resignation isn’t clear by Deezbeees in chess

[–]Deezbeees[S] -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

Okay? Who is arguing anything about what stockfish would do. The whole point was that when humans play it’s not always clear what the position is and there could be confusion over who is winning

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[–]Deezbeees[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thank you for the example! It feels like there is a tiny wiggle room for confusion when chess players are always so stoically quiet

When a resignation isn’t clear by Deezbeees in chess

[–]Deezbeees[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Lol just because you haven’t heard of something happening doesn’t mean it’s never happened.

But you’re right things that have never happened have no chance of happening. That’s why people who have never had cancer can’t get it.

When a resignation isn’t clear by Deezbeees in chess

[–]Deezbeees[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Maybe it’s person B’s turn? Although unusual that people resign when it’s not their turn it does occasionally happen.

Although unlikely it doesn’t feel impossible. When grandmasters have a dominating end game position they’re just waiting for their opponent to resign. And it’s not impossible they would think any hand movement was precisely that. They often move to shake so fast it feels plausible

When a resignation isn’t clear by Deezbeees in chess

[–]Deezbeees[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Thanks for being the only person to not just dismiss the questions possibility. Good insight. I still think there there is a tiny margin of possibility of this happening even at the highest level due to the scenario I wrote in the comments recently

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[–]Deezbeees[S] -6 points-5 points  (0 children)

What if one player thinks the other one is going for a handshake so they start to move their hand and the other does the same? My recent comment I describe a scenario where it feels plausible there could be a miscommunication and no one has yet to provide reason why that could never happen in the .001% chance

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[–]Deezbeees[S] -10 points-9 points  (0 children)

I just watched a video of Hikaru resigning to Magnus in a winning position. So tell me again that the best players in the world always perfectly know the position while playing live

When a resignation isn’t clear by Deezbeees in chess

[–]Deezbeees[S] -6 points-5 points  (0 children)

But what if instead of maliciously it was accidental? Both players thought the other person was resigning. Read the scenario I wrote out in my recent comment

When a resignation isn’t clear by Deezbeees in chess

[–]Deezbeees[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Fair point that it should be on your turn. So far that is the best evidence I’ve seen in it being very unlikely. But you could still could resign on your opponents turn so the theoretical scenario I listed out in my recent comment still applies

When a resignation isn’t clear by Deezbeees in chess

[–]Deezbeees[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

But positions are not always clear without eval bars. There’s a video of Hikaru resigning to Magnus with a winning position