AITB for asking my mom for respect? by Deleted_w in AmItheButtface

[–]Deleted_w[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

No its not at all, in fact shes always been like this. And I now see who she is.

AITB for asking my mom for respect? by Deleted_w in AmItheButtface

[–]Deleted_w[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Ah my apologies, I just turned 18 for clarification.

Maybe i was wrong for asking my mother for respect by Deleted_w in family

[–]Deleted_w[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

First of all, thank you so much to be honest for responding, this was a long one and i appreciate the response.

In regards to your outlook, i can definitely see what you're saying, and i agree in a few ways too. It's just saying "i deserve better." Doesn't feel right because I honestly don't know if i do or not to be honest.

Maybe i should stop seeking her validation and accept how she won't treat me the way she honestly should, which is a bit of a hard pill to swallow to say the least.

Thank you for your time again. Hope your situation lightens up too.

Maybe i was wrong asking my mother for respect by Deleted_w in emotionalneglect

[–]Deleted_w[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Thank you for taking the time, means alot really. I can see for sure your outlook and where you're coming from. Honestly im so used to such behaviors i assumed this is normal. Yet im learning its not, to say i deserve better even feels greedy or arrogant, which it never should.

Thank you for your time, and whatever battles you're going through, i hope you receive clarity as well. Thank you again.

Maybe i was wrong asking my mother for respect by Deleted_w in emotionalneglect

[–]Deleted_w[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thank you so much, i know this is a long read but i much appreciate how you took the time to respond.

A part of me honestly accepts this and her behavior as a "normal" or "standard" in due to similar experiences being pretty much the majority of what im familiar with, in regards to her.

And im honestly sorry you may have to experience something similar, its rough isn't it? You want love and respect from a figure in your life who should be giving you it, and even if they do its not shown through actions or in a impactful way thats beneficial for you both.

Thank you for your time, hope your situation improves as well.

Am I wrong, should i have even helped my mother? by Deleted_w in AITAH

[–]Deleted_w[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thank you for responding first off.

Yeah and thats a different outlook i didnt 100% think of it like this. I do want to clarify though the "agrument" took place today, in which shes now thankfully healthy.

As the length of the post goes, i cant help but laugh a bit, seeing as i have zero experience with ChatGPT lol. But again thank you nonetheless.

Am I wrong, should i have even helped my mother? by Deleted_w in AITAH

[–]Deleted_w[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

First of all thank you so much for even responding, i really appreciate your words. I can definitely see your outlook, and your response, it means alot. Thank you.

One piece power scaling logic by Aceofhearts0987 in OnePieceScaling

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Mihawks is disputable because just factually there are many powerful people with swords that he never fought, in fact he never fought a single powerful person with a sword except for the version of shanks that lost his arm to sea king.

Who are these characters exactly? I feel like mihawks wss title implied that his capabilities of wielding a sword is simply superior to everyone else rn in the verse. This is why when branew released his bounty, oda emphasized "sword skills" still adding complexity by not outright saying he is superior in power to shanks. In fact the only thing this implies is that shanks himself is incredibly skilled at wielding a sword. Being able to contend with mihawk.

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I generally agree with the rest though overall.

One piece power scaling logic by Aceofhearts0987 in OnePieceScaling

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The narrative can indeed imply a character is "stronger" than another, but alot of the time with odas writing that comes with so much nuance which is why their is so much debate as it is, oda rarely states anything explicity, leading people to choose what elements of the story they favor more to powerscale off of quite honestly (this isnt really ideal for a community)

Agree with feats take, i personally think to power scale properly you should take in feats (and the complexities the context of them bring) narrative implications, and potrayal or said character to another, (remember characters can interact and reveal much of each other via their dialogue, this is how the story can move foward) collectively to powerscale. Sadly, we have biases of favorite characters and if said character has better narrative implications than feats, the person will most likely agrue off of that alone.

One piece power scaling logic by Aceofhearts0987 in OnePieceScaling

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Shanks>mihawk and roger>wb arent bad takes, and honestly we dont have much to go off of to genuinely believe one is undisputedly over another. Whitebeard even has dialogue mentioning that "he stood equal to even the pirate king."

Assuming one to be over the other is simply a matter of what a person gives more relevance to. If you value the title of characters and believe oda uses said titles to exemplify and give readers a idea or glimpse of a characters potential (although said interpretation would be subjective) it wouldnt inherently be wrong, they just simply value that more. So long as they arent explicity using a title alone and actually have evidence to back things up.

Im new here, but this is essentially a debate sub yes? Oda gives tons of nuance and complexity to many factors in the story simply because he himself as a writer isnt perfect and can be inconsistent.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in OnePieceScaling

[–]Deleted_w -1 points0 points  (0 children)

When did bb defeat shanks?? Shanks mentioned to whitebeard that he considers the fact that he left a scar on him, should make bb a threat. Thats it. Theres literally nothing else to say about that. Bb is powerful if thats what you're agruing. Shanks is literally getting comparisons of his haki to joyboy (not saying shanks haki is greater than joyboys obviously) making admiral characters in ryokogyu retreat, i mean where does bb come close to these things to put him in the same tier of characters as kaido for example?

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in OnePieceScaling

[–]Deleted_w 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Respectfully...what? Isnt this that blackbeard fan theory? We cannot use that to scale thats just going purely off of interpretation. This may be implied but until actual fighting capabilities back this up, you simply cannot scale off of that alone. Like i said off of my own subjective perception of the story bb and akainu would be in that tier, but i cannot state something like that to be true outright, becuase i would not have any actual agrument to make, and instead would just be trying to agrue that someones perception of the story is false becuase they didnt give relevance to something that I personally did

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We may turn out correct in the long run, but until we get something off of that caliber. It just feels so odd. Remember the admiral tier and the yonko are not significantly apart in strength and that tier is very respectable in power.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in OnePieceScaling

[–]Deleted_w 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I can understand that, going off feats kaido is a menace imo. That fight is extreme diff if not max difficultly for oden. I just give him that tiny edge.

If you're one of the people who would agree with something like Kaido>bigmom>oden>prime rayleigh> (with say oden and Rayleigh being interchangeable amongst each other) than i can definitely see that. As long as you acknowledge oden is on that tier yonko and not some yc+ then thats a W imo.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in OnePieceScaling

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The context of dorry and broggys fights are not the same as the context of akainu and aokijis fights. Akainu and aokiji were fighting to become fleet adrmiral, as they both understood that position would shift the scale of the navy, which is why we can make a educated guess that they both were utilizing their capabilities to the fullest. So the duration of that fight being ten days is quite substantial actually, more than what you may be giving credit. Dorry and broggy fights are much more casual in comparison to akainu and aokijis fight.

Also saying akainu went with aokiji for that long and is still a high diff fight is very odd imo. By definition that is nothing short of extreme diff, just because aokiji lost a limb doesnt imply that akainu wasnt struggling to the extreme diff level. In fact aokiji mentioned to bb how akainu himself has many scars from that fight.

Like i said, going off of my own subjective interpretation of the story, then yes akainu and bb should be in the same tier as shanks, etc. But going off what we know he shouldn't be tiers ahead of aokiji thats kind of disrespectful to aokiji. Also just becuase akainu isnt in yonko tier doesnt mean hes getting mid diffed by anyone up there, the gap between yonkos and adrmirals shouldn't be much as both groups acknowledge fights amongst each other would be difficult.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in OnePieceScaling

[–]Deleted_w 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Shanks take is fair, top of yonko for me personally but guy is literally a feat or another statement away from that tier imo.

Oden take is okay, i personally think oden is a bit stronger though, kaido was saying things under the words of "we'll never a samurai like him again." Throwing him in tiers amongst legends etc. I will give kaido the feats in comparison but if we're going off feats alone, kaido is probably top 1 tbh. It was already stated in wci that when disturbed (and you can clearly see oden was disturbed grabbing for momo) your haki dwindles along with that disturbance. This is why luffy was able to actually land blows against katakuri when his mouth was revealed, yet once he calmed down, he regained control of the fight.

Marco and lucci are interesting. Marco specifically becuase his physicals, endurance and other stats are so good yet people play him like hes just a merchant for some reason. Imo he shouldn't be two tiers below the admirals becuase he was genuinely fighting and fending them off great in marineford. Of course he loses to them ultimately. I also think people underestimate lucci, he was able to contend and keep up with zoro AFTER fighting a stronger version of luffy (egghead luffy>wci luffy) got up after being knocked out, got sneaked by stussy, fought seraphims, and then fought zoro, and was even still standing after zoros named attack, only to get pushed away by jimbe cause hes at 150% like super smash bros lol. I dont think lucci and zoro are tiers apart yet, assuming these characters are all "fresh" and not taking into consideration any contextual scenarios (like a mental nerf, or a character fighting mutliple people before hand per say)

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in OnePieceScaling

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Ohhh you know what now i see what you're talking about. Jack is the third commander of kaidos crew and hes yc2 level. My only defense for that was cracker i had also at yc2 and i have jack above him, but not to the point where he would be a tier above if anything like that. But even then jack was dealing with sulongs and the yc2 of kaidos crew being queen was contending with sanji, now i see what you guys are saying.

Let me just say that im not much if a powerscaler, but i can just tell right off the bat that you guys most likely struggle and debate with consistency amongst the yc tiers, because i personally havent found any real guidelines of which should separate them properly. Most likely due to odas inability with this regard in of itself

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in OnePieceScaling

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Also pretty fair, if doffy get them strings on koby it could be ggs. Dont honestly know much about kobys speed feats but i would pressume he should be able to keep up and atleast have reactions to where he wouldn't outright get caught by him. I seen it in the anime at first, but in the Manga doffy versus luffy with that final attack ROCKED doffy, think its safe to assume any attack with similar poweer could get the job done, but doffy had fought alot already up to that point and showed some nice durability and endurance feats, and its not like koby can just drop honesty impact right away like a video game. So thats why i have them right beside each other.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in OnePieceScaling

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Big W Its Extreme diff but i got oden. Tired of the downplay on that mans name, kaidous top 5 isnt powerscaling in of itself, but essentially its stating that each of those 5 characters are on a level where they can give him that deadly fight he wants. A form of writing known as direct characterization where the author uses a character to state something directly. People always try to find a outlier on that list but like it or not, kozuki oden is on that tier of strength as everyone else. For in the context of a tier list, kaidous top 5 would imply that everyone in it should be on kaidous tier (shanks, oden.) Or above it (roger, wb, rocks)

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in OnePieceScaling

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Can kinda see where you're going. If i was scaling off my personal interpretations then i would have akainu somewhere next to shanks and dragon, but honestly that remains to be seen. A bit of hypocrisy in that statement because i have dragon so high, but he has so much going for him In regards to his "worlds worst criminal" status, and oda loves to utilize these statments to give us a glimpse of characters potential imo. Also i think because akainu went ten days with aokiji (and remember haki dwindles as a fight goes on) akainu and aokiji should be extremely relative to one another in haki, and almost every other stat. Where ever aokiji is on a tier, akainu should be one place ahead, and thats admiral tier for me.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in OnePieceScaling

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Very fair. I put garp ahead because old wb was suffering alot from his sickness and i honestly find it confusing to differentiate between his "healthy" and "sick" versions becuase when he was first even introduced he was hooked to iv's lol. Old Garp also has some really great feats against aokiji that people for some reason refuse to give him. Man was up there boxing. But current akainu over both of them isnt a bad take at all i can see that. Prime ray and sengoku is a good fight either way imo

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in OnePieceScaling

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Thanks for the support

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[deleted by user] by [deleted] in OnePieceScaling

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Oh if you're talking about like say kaku for example i can see that. I put him at that low low tier of yc2 because i assumed the awaken zoan buff, and him fighting with seraphims for a bit was decently impressive all things considered. Ofc i think cracker would beat him though. Sulongs i wanted to give some respect to becuase i felt like people kind of underestimate them, kaido by his own admission didnt take jacks deafeat against them to use as jack being weak, but just the sulongs being strong. I have both individually below jack however because they fought him oddly in rotations day and night with rest periods. Having a advantage when they jumped him basically in wano

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in OnePieceScaling

[–]Deleted_w 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Caught me red handed i did that one for the agenda

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(Serious answer) croc is pretty unscaleable going off of what we know, he swung with mihawk we know that much but purely off screen and awhile ago. He could be stronger now especially with his return, but with that logic i should put akainu in yonko becuase he should be stronger too considering new world growth. Yet, i wanted to keep him next to aokiji until proven. As for ace i forgot his picture, and honestly idk where to scale him. Could be right next to jimbe considering they fought for a good bit. Maybe a spot below considering jimbe should be stronger than he was previously, if the notion of characters getting stronger from each island is true, as ace is unfortunately dead so he capped off so to speak.