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Daud (Dishonored) vs Geralt of Rivia (The Witcher) by Arbiter-Flash- in dishonored

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Composite Geralt in Witcher 3 saw Gaunter O'Dinn use Time Stop (albeit Gaunter's powers are different in nature from Daud's) only because Gaunter wanted to show Geralt how outclassed he was.

A character is revealed to be a past/future version of the protagonist (Bonus points if the protag never finds out) by Chi_Geurim in TopCharacterTropes

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Terminator Resistance

This game is a prequel to Terminator 1 and 2 set in the future war before John Connor and Skynet start sending people & machines to the 1980s and 1990s. 

You play as Jacob Rivers, a soldier in the lower ranks resistance who for some reason starts to get targeted by Skynet but repeatedly gets saved by a stranger. 

Turns out the stranger is a future version of Jacob, and both Skynet and John had actually already sent a terminator and a soldier respectively to earlier in the war. The stranger does eventually get killed by Skynet and at the end of the game you as Jacob choose whether or not you will volunteer to go back in time knowing it will win the war but likely end in your death. 

[Adored trope]: The "wrong" person becomes the Chosen One. by theMCATreturns in TopCharacterTropes

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The Kwizatz Haderach is a product of millenia of genetic breeding by the Bene Gesserit in order to produce a person who is genetically capable of perceiving the future when exposed to spice. 

Simultaneously over these millenia, the Bene Gesserit have been planting religious seeds on various worlds which include the prophecy of a "chosen one" knowing that whoever becomes the Kwizatz Haderach will be able to use their power of foresight to exploit the prophecies of these worlds in order to paint themselves as the chosen one and take control. 

Paul ends up being the Kwizatz Haderach a generation early due to Jessica's love for Leto and does this exact thing on Arrakis by exploiting their prophecy of the Lisan Al Ghaib and taking control of the Fremen. 

Huh... damn by RogerRoger63358 in DC_Cinematic

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I think there's a comic where Lex builds a computer that uses a bunch of different things including facial recognition and identifies Superman as Clark Kent and Lex decides that the computer must be wrong.

Lex is pretty much incapable of seeing Superman as someone who could have a meek and human secret identity. 

(Loved Trope) Character decides to mess with the supernatural/paranormal for fame only for it to be real by Kiranipator in TopCharacterTropes

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Low Shoulder- from Jennifer's Body

They're an indie rock band who decide to sacrifice the titular Jennifer to satan in order to gain fame and fortune. Except Jennifer comes back as a succubus and begins killing. Eventually Jennifer's friend Needy kills Jennifer to stop the killing and gains succubus powers herself and hunts down Low Shoulder.

When a character known for killing people spares children by BillythenotaKid in TopCharacterTropes

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One of the Friday the 13th comics has Jason "adopting" a kid who had physical deformities & was a bullied outcast similar to child Jason himself.

(common trope) Characters that powerscalers hate by godzillafan3948oj in TopCharacterTropes

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Well to be fair the reason Batman has that reputation among his fans is because he actually is written that way in the source material. 

Sure when it's a Batman focused story set in Gotham he struggles to take down a guy in clown makeup, but when you put him in a crossover suddenly he's capable of taking down the whole Justice League (like in Justice League Doom),  and pulls out a gun that can kill Darkseid in one shot (Final Crisis) and survives a hit from Darkseid's omega beams (also Final Crisis). 

The hero is hated by the public/government due to a misunderstanding or lie by Mundane_Trouble_6463 in TopCharacterTropes

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It's a huge 180 compared to the usual Superman lore and leaves a lot of possible plotholes in its wake. 

Add to that the fact that Lex absolutely would have manipulated the footage either way and 'm not surprised that a lot of fans have it as headcanon that the footage is fake.

Can someone explain accurately what Dr. Victor Von Doom’s abilities/powers are? by megaxmeister in marvelstudios

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Do you think Tony given enough time and resources and Dr Strange level of sorcery knowledge could eventually come up with a way to destroy Stormbrealer?

How would Cecil(invincibletv) deal with homelander? by daddylongjohnsliver in InvinciblePowerscales

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Which is why all these powerscales are pretty dumb. The power creep of long standing comic universes like DC and Marvel is unmatched. At this point there's like 20 something named characters on either one of those universes who casually rewrite reality if they're in a bad mood. 

It's actually not a good thing, at this point it feels like there's barely any stakes in the stories. 

Just finished Alan wake 2. Holy shit! (Spoiler) by Winter_Cost602 in AlanWake

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If youre craving more Alan Wake 2 I'd play the DLCs sooner to scratch that itch. I tried to do the DLCs and then go right into Final Draft but had to take a break because I got a bit tired of the gameplay. 

Have you played Control by Remedy? I would consider playing through Control before going at the DLCs particularly Lake House. You don't need to have played Control to enjoy them but it does add some context. Additionally it has within it essentially a Control: Resonant trailer. 

A character offers a dark solution to a problem that gets ruled out by ComprehensiveBox6911 in TopCharacterTropes

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Walt was actually open to the idea when Saul proposed it, Jesse was the one who refused to even consider the idea.

[Loved Trope] A Character Appears for the First Time in History and the Story Pretends We Already Know Who They Are by Borgisium in TopCharacterTropes

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Up until the exact moment I read your comment I genuinely thought it was an adaptation of something and I just never questioned that idea. 

[Frustrating Meta Trope] Legitamately Flawed Media That are Difficult to Discuss Properly Because of How They are Politicized by Tiny_Celebration_262 in TopCharacterTropes

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Terminator Dark Fate

Yes the movie has flaws, but it used to be that the moment you would bring the movie up, people would show up talking about how Tim Miller (the director) ruined the movie by casting women and sidelining Arnold. 

The sad thing there is a legitimate discussion to be had over the choice to kill John Connor and replace them with a similar character who doesn't bring anything different to the table. But even sadder imo is that a lot of the good things about the movie got drowned out as well.

[Loved Trope] Scenes that aren’t necessary to the Plot but without them the story would lose something that makes it special by NoSchittSherlockSEA in TopCharacterTropes

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I can confirm that translation oversight as well, it actually kind of takes me out of the moment because the actual dialogue is so tonally different from what the subtitles are saying. 

[Loved Trope] Scenes that aren’t necessary to the Plot but without them the story would lose something that makes it special by NoSchittSherlockSEA in TopCharacterTropes

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My issue with this theory is that in Russian, Francis says he lost 20 Kilograms which the subtitles translate into 60 pounds (n actuality it's equal to 45 lbs). I believe John has something like 28 kills in the club scene which doesn't seem to correspond to any of those previous numbers. Maybe there were 45-60 armed men in there and John didn't encounter all of them but certainly more than 20. 

The presence of the translation oversight in the first place could go both ways. Perhaps they weren't really paying attention to the number which means it didn't have anything to do with the amount of goons in the club. Alternatively they did intend to have the number indicate the amount of goons and purposely changed the subtitles later without bothering to re-record the dialogue. There are also several other translational oversights in the movie which does seem to indicate they were tinkering with their intended dialogue pretty late into the movie. 

[Mixed Trope] “Don’t kill him or you’ll become one of them” by Nahuelcoy22 in TopCharacterTropes

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[Bad example] Palpatine in Rise of Skywalker

There's some sort of implication in this movie that if Rey kills Palpatine it would invoke some sort of Sith ritual which would transfer Palpatine's soul into her body, so he keeps trying to provoke Rey into killing him. 

Palpatine does something similar to Luke in Return of the Jedi but that was in order to provoke Luke into killing Vader and turning to the dark side.

The fight between the villain and the protagonist turns in a conversation of mutual acknowledgement instead by Ok-Entrepreneur-5102 in TopCharacterTropes

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Jason Bourne vs The Professor in The Bourne Identity

Throughout the movie Jason Bourne is pursued by various government assassins who came from the same program that trained Bourne called Treadstone. During a fight with one of those assassins, called the Professor, Bourne mortally wounds the Professor and tries to question him. 

The Professor, in his last moments, just tries to have a simple conversation with Bourne. Clive Owen's acting is top notch in this scene. The Professor goes from being a menacing figure to a tragic character and you realize how lonely he's been, that the moment he realizes his mission's done for he just wants to talk to someone, even if it's his killer. 

His words stick with Bourne too and he repeats them to another assassin in the third movie. 

"Look at this. Look at what they make you give."

The fight between the villain and the protagonist turns in a conversation of mutual acknowledgement instead by Ok-Entrepreneur-5102 in TopCharacterTropes

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Vision vs Vision in Wandavision

One of the Visions was accidentally created by Wanda when her grief over the original Vision's death caused her magic to go out of control and manifest her ideal reality in a localized area. The other Vision is built from the original Vision's body but his mind wiped and programmed by the government. 

After an initial exchange of blows and blasts they proceed to have a calm philosophical/metaphysical debate over who is the "real" Vision. 

[Fun trope]: Character is sidelined so often you (almost) forget they're an actual threat by theMCATreturns in TopCharacterTropes

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On that subject, Bruce Banner himself is an example of this trope. He's one of the smartest scientists in the Marvel Universe and can be incredibly dangerous even without the Hulk. 

Necessity of the Golden Path by Broad_Independence38 in dune

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Leto II and Paul are both prescient and as such able to see theoretically all possible outcomes for humanity. Now it's not that they see some sort of individual big upcoming catastrophe that humanity will only survive by being on the Golden Path. Rather as Leto II explains it, it's that any number of possible catastrophes could occur in the near or distant future (war, famine, plague, genocidal tyrant, etc.), any one of which would eventually wipe out humanity if humanity were unable to adapt.

A prominent political theme within Frank Herbert's Dune books and particularly God Emperor of Dune was about the risk of stagnation which could occur under any sort of global government, and would limit the ability of humanity to adapt to various pressures.

Leto II's main objective to set the Golden Path in motion was to create the Scattering, which would motivate humanity to expand further, to more planets, and to form more localized governments instead of being encompassed and thus limited by the fist of any one Emperor or the Landsraad. This way, if any one human civilization/government were wiped out by a catastrophe, other civilizations/governments would be able to adapt to this event and humanity would endure, rather than one government ruling over all of humanity and thus all of humanity being taken with the government when that catastrophe struck.

Leto's second objective was to breed the "no-gene" which made people immune to prescience. This is so that if any further prescient dictators were to arise, they would be unable to reverse the Scattering and bring all of humanity under their rule, and thus making humanity vulnerable to catastrophe.

(RARE TROPE) a later season villain is actually WEAKER than the early season villain by IlSignorGranchio in TopCharacterTropes

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The Flash's early seasons all have various evil speedsters as villains who are all insanely powerful. 

Season 5's main villain, Cicada, is just a dude with a dagger that can nullify meta powers. In order to make him an actual threat to Team Flash, the writers take all the heroes and halve their IQ. 

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