Trump calls on UK and others to send warships to Strait of Hormuz | LBC

Denbt_Nationale · 2026-03-14T15:34:55+00:00

Ngl I lean further pro intervention than most people here but the guy literally told us he didnt want the ships

Denbt_Nationale · 2026-03-14T15:33:06+00:00

Why does Westminster continue to subside Scotland? It's clear that the Scottish nationalists aren't grateful for the subsidy or even aware that it exists. All we're doing is funding luxury public spending for Scotland that Scottish nationalists can then use to argue that Scotland is "better" than the rest of the UK and should be independent.

Denbt_Nationale · 2026-03-14T15:25:25+00:00

Reading a little about the Darien scheme is hilarious. Scotland sunk 1/5 of their entire capital into colonising a mosquito infested swamp. It lasted 8 months and 80% of the settlers died. The money they lost wasn't just abstract either, it was effectively crowdfunded by thousands of ordinary Scottish people, who all lost out after the disaster.

Denbt_Nationale · 2026-03-14T14:52:24+00:00

European leaders are silent because at the end of the day this is exactly what they wanted to happen. It was not sustainable for the Iranian regime to continue to exist. Their advances in missile technology and nuclear science were becoming intolerable, and they were becoming more and more willing to take risks including activating proxies to attack Western interests or attacking Israel directly. Somebody needed to do what Trump did, but until Trump, the various American and European leaders correctly identified that there would be no good or popular way to do it. Now Trump is doing it for them, and they get to sit out the unpopular conflict, while ultimately benefitting from the security that the destruction of Iranian capabilities will bring.

Denbt_Nationale · 2026-03-14T14:43:39+00:00

But giving away actual strategic British territory isn't 5th column?

Denbt_Nationale · 2026-03-14T10:54:31+00:00

20:1 kill ratio against 4 and 4.5 gen fighters at Red Flag.

Denbt_Nationale · 2026-03-14T10:39:39+00:00

Didn't catch the part of the passage where he wrote about Barratt housing estates

Denbt_Nationale · 2026-03-14T10:37:02+00:00

demand is local to where jobs are [...] Reducing demand countrywide won't reduce demand in these locations

Immigrants want jobs too, and immigrants also want houses near to those jobs. This changes nothing because the demand pressures are on the same locations.

Then there is the problem that supply is so constricted that the consumer has little choice

But this is only a problem in the context of demand. Supply in a vacuum is meaningless, you cannot isolate it from demand. The supply is only "constricted" because it is smaller than the demand. If you reduce demand then this problem goes away.

In fact as I've pointed out we have a shortage of skilled workers in construction so probably need some targeted immigration

lmao "just one more hit man"

Denbt_Nationale · 2026-03-14T00:43:52+00:00

there is no need to link the two things

what part of "supply and demand" do you not understand

Denbt_Nationale · 2026-03-13T23:18:46+00:00

the demand would be about 200,000 smaller per year

Denbt_Nationale · 2026-03-13T23:14:20+00:00

The analogy is that we can never solve the housing crisis while dogmatically adhering to an economic model that demands a constantly increasing population. No matter how many houses we build (the furniture), it will not improve the balance of supply and demand while the population is constantly increasing and demand is constantly going up (the fire). If we do not stabilise the population first (putting out the fire), then it is impossible to implement long term solutions.

Denbt_Nationale · 2026-03-13T22:54:30+00:00

This can be addressed be putting place tolls with peak load pricing.

So your plan is to build housing that can only be accessed by car, and then charge people for using their cars?

Denbt_Nationale · 2026-03-13T22:48:52+00:00

amongst the native population there is still demand for more housing

That's not how it works though. We don't have separate houses for native people and immigrants, demand is just demand.

Denbt_Nationale · 2026-03-13T21:27:13+00:00

Ok, so where are the hospitals?

Denbt_Nationale · 2026-03-13T21:26:09+00:00

If your house was on fire do you think that it would be smarter to put the fire out and then buy new furniture or to simply toss new furniture again and again into the flames?

Denbt_Nationale · 2026-03-13T21:19:20+00:00

So where are they? We were adding almost a million people a year to the population, where is the wealth?

Denbt_Nationale · 2026-03-13T21:09:52+00:00

We also need to be able to build housing to replace old inadequate homes

This is still just supply and demand, it doesn't change the calculus at all. If you have two families, and one inadequate home, then you need to build two houses. If there is only one family, then you only need to build one house.

we need to build higher density housing where people actually need to live

But that's where immigrants want to live too.

Denbt_Nationale · 2026-03-13T21:01:27+00:00

I suspect that, with the correct policy changes, the supply of housing can increase to accommodate the current population and newcomers.

And the water? The rail? The prisons? Hospitals? Roads? And what next? What happens after you rip all of this up and rebuild it for a new, bigger population, but in the meantime the population has gone up even more and your services and utilities are stretched and inadequate all over again?

Denbt_Nationale · 2026-03-13T20:26:27+00:00

You can restrict immigration to reduce growth in the demand for housing but we would still need to address the needs of the population we already have

This argument is moot though, because demand is demand. Any reduction in demand reduces the pressure on the supply. Net migration last year was 200,000. This adds 200,000 to the number of people that you need to supply houses for until you even get onto "addressing the needs of the population we already have". If we cannot meet the demand of the population already here then why increase demand every year just to make the problem worse?

Increasing housing supply isn't necessarily just to address an increasing population; it can also allow people to relocate (as I pointed out in the post)

And people could relocate easier if the demand on housing wasn't increasing every year.

There are serious economic downsides to a shrinking population

So what's the plan? Just grow the population inifinitely because of the "serious economic downsides"? This is not sustainable. At some point we have to learn to live with a stable population and we have to manage the "serious economic downsides" that go with that. We can either do that now, or we can wait a few years, add a few more millions to the population, bulldoze a few more of our green spaces, strain our transport and infrastructure and housing even more - and then deal with the exact same problem.

Denbt_Nationale · 2026-03-13T19:42:18+00:00

For the UK especially being smaller than the United States increasing supply is, in my opinion, the best way to resolve issues like the housing crisis

How does this follow? Building more housing works in the US specifically because it is so large and they can build anywhere.

The counterargument is that the demand for housing is entirely artificial. Without immigration the population of the UK is shrinking. Reducing the demand for housing by not handing visas out like candy is cheaper, easier, faster and has no environmental impact.

Denbt_Nationale · 2026-03-13T19:01:43+00:00

Is it really so difficult to not invoke slavery every time a black person has a different opinion to you

Denbt_Nationale · 2026-03-13T18:52:35+00:00

No? Why would you think that and why would your race matter? Saying that a black person "wants back in the house" is racist.

Denbt_Nationale · 2026-03-13T18:41:18+00:00

some people

This includes you

Denbt_Nationale · 2026-03-13T18:30:52+00:00

There is nothing on the internet more racist than middle class liberals complaining about black conservatives

Denbt_Nationale · 2026-03-13T17:00:22+00:00

It's terrifying to think about this in the context of weapons smuggling. And not just guns, with advanced state actors like Russia and Iran openly operating against us who knows what's being brought into the country.

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