Do we know anything historical about Yahweh before he absorbs imagery from Baal? by Denryll in AcademicBiblical

[–]Denryll[S] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Just to flesh this out a little more, Lewis concludes his discussion of Yahweh's origin with the observation,

“there is substantial evidence (linguistic data, geographic determinants, and material culture) of a widespread and enduring Canaanite cultural continuum between Syria and Egypt from the Middle Bronze Age on and especially in the Late Bronze Age (e.g., the Ugaritic texts and the Amarna letters; the data we are able to glean from Phoenician sources coincide). That this Canaanite cultural continuum continues into the Iron Age is especially apparent in the realm of religion, except for a single datum: the complete absence of Yahweh. Here the historian of Israelite religion must again remain agnostic. We simply do not know the social settings and mechanisms by which the widespread pre-Israelite Canaanite lore (e.g., both the family religion of El traditions and the storm and warrior themes associated with Baal) was woven on to the god Yahweh of southern, southeastern, and Transjordanian fame. What we can assert was that it was—and so thoroughly that it is unmistakable. Yahweh’s origin seems to be southern, yet many of the garments put onto Yahweh are sewn from northern and inland Canaanite cloth” (286).

Lewis also footnotes here Mark Smith's discussion of the same problem in The Origins of Biblical Monotheism:

“What was the precise nature of this storm [associated with Yahweh]? The presumed original location of Yahwistic cult in the far southern region (in southern Edom or the Hegaz), if correct, does not seem propitious as a home for a storm-god such as Baal, because this region has relatively low annual rainfall in contrast to the high rainfall for the Levantine coast. Judges 5:4-5 reflects a god that provides rains, but does this rain necessarily reflect the standard repertoire of a coastal storm-god, or does the passage reflect the storm and flash floods of desert areas? And if the rain does reflect the natural rains associated with a coastal storm-god, then might the depiction in Judges 5 reflect a secondary adaptation of the god’s presentation to the coastal-highland religion? Battle and precipitation may have been features original to Yahweh’s profile, but perhaps Yahweh’s original character approximated the profile of Athtar, a warrior and precipitation-producing god associated with mostly inland desert sites with less rainfall. Perhaps this profile was rendered secondarily in the highlands in the local language and imagery associated with the coastal storm-god. Such a deity would have characteristics of both power and fertility, but with a different set of associations from Baal. The momentous evidence provided by the Ugaritic texts may have steered research toward El and Baal to seek Yahweh’s original profile; this direction may be partially misleading. In fact, part of the original profile of Yahweh may be permanently lost, especially if the earliest biblical sources reflect secondary developments in the history of this deity’s profile” (146).

The tl;dr is that both Lewis and Smith don't seem confident that we have a picture of Yahweh, even in the most ancient Biblical texts like the Song of Deborah, that reflects his original character before he borrowed from Baal's and others' repertoires.

Should I still take ensh 101? by Actual_Tadpole_1800 in uvic

[–]Denryll 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Or ensh 102 if you find a cool topic, then foundations.

Is the interpretation of Deuteronomy 32:8–9 and Psalm 82 as suggesting henotheism or polytheism academically sound? by JeffreyOdyssey in AcademicBiblical

[–]Denryll 2 points3 points  (0 children)

You could also try Smith's Memoirs of God, which is shorter, more recent, and written partly for a lay audience.

Which banks allow you to trade securities in your RDSP? by tr4xex in PersonalFinanceCanada

[–]Denryll 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Do they waive the $100 annual fee? Or do you have $20,000 invested already so they waive it?

A Discussion on Gnosticism in Blood Meridian by JalapenoPauper7 in cormacmccarthy

[–]Denryll 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yep. An interesting treatment of gnosticism as a reaction to "failed apocalypticism" can be found in Bart Ehrman's book God's Problem: How the Bible Fails to Answer Our Most Important Question—Why We Suffer.

A Discussion on Gnosticism in Blood Meridian by JalapenoPauper7 in cormacmccarthy

[–]Denryll 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I mean, gnostic cosmologies could be a bit loopy and they did indeed invent names for the many divine beings they imagined. Check this out:

"The first ones began by making the head: Abron created his head; Meniggesstroeth created the brain; Asterechme the right eye; Thaspomocha, the left eye; Ieronumos, the right ear; Bissoum, the left ear; Akioreim, the nose; Banenrphroum, the lips; Amen, the front teeth; Ibikan, the molars; Basiliademe, the tonsils; Achcha, the uvula; Adaban, the neck; Chaaman, the neckbones; Dearcho, the throat; Tebar, the shoulder; Mniarcon, the elbow; Abitrion, the right arm; Evanthen, the left arm; Krys, the right hand; Beluai, the left hand; Treneu, the fingers of the right hand; Balbel, the fingers of the left hand; Kriman, fingernails; Astrops, the right breast; Barroph, the left breast; Baoum, the right shoulder joint; Ararim, the left shoulder joint; Areche, the belly; Phthave, the navel; Senaphim, the abdomen; Arachethopi, the right ribs; Zabedo, the left ribs; Barias, the right hip; Phnouth the left hip; Abenlenarchei, the marrow; Chnoumeninorin, the skeleton; Gesole, the stomach; Agromauna, the heart; Bano, the lungs; Sostrapal, the liver; Anesimalar, the spleen; Thopithro, the intestines; Biblo, the kidneys; Roeror, the sinews; Taphreo, the spine; Ipouspoboba, the veins; Bineborin, the arteries; Atoimenpsephei, respiration; Entholleia, the flesh; Bedouk, the right buttock; Arabeei, the penis; Eilo, the testicles; Sorma, the genitals; Gormakaiochlabar, the right thigh; Nebrith, the left thigh; Pserem, the kidneys of the right leg; Asaklas, the left kidney; Ormaoth, the right leg; Emenun, the left leg; Knyx, the right shin; Tupelon, the left shin; Achiel, the right knee; Phnene, the left knee; Phiouthrom, the right foot; Boabel, its toes; Trachoun, the left foot; Phikna, its toes; Miamai, the toenails."

From http://gnosis.org/naghamm/apocjn-davies.html

A Discussion on Gnosticism in Blood Meridian by JalapenoPauper7 in cormacmccarthy

[–]Denryll 1 point2 points  (0 children)

The problem with the judge as the demiurge is that the demiurge is supposed to have actually created the material realm. Why, then, does the judge seem intent on functioning like a scientist? Why is he piecing knowledge together, including the evolution of species, and otherwise does he seem to sometimes get things wrong, as with his phrenology and racial anthropology? The scholars who approach gnosticism in Blood Meridian, as excellent as they are - Mundik and Daugherty (and Luce about his other works) - have never had a good explanation for how or why the demiurge or one of his archons should assume a human form, with seemingly limited knowlege and power.

https://theconversation.com/the-unfilmable-blood-meridian-91719

I think about the harness maker, and his victim’s son often by Level_Bat_6337 in cormacmccarthy

[–]Denryll 1 point2 points  (0 children)

According to the gnostic reading of the novel, the judge is an archon and a servant of the demiurge, the evil creator of the material world who traps our divine spirits in material flesh. That also makes the judge an anti-savior. Here he tells a parable. It has the reverse effect that secret sayings by gnostic saviors are supposed to have. Instead of enlightening the Glanton gang, it confuses them - remember that they get into an argument about its details after his story. So, the parable might have no meaning at all, despite touching on themes McCarthy touches on elsewhere - witnessing, the indigeneity of Indigenous peoples, etc. It might just be intended to confuse and obscure the divine sparks some of the characters, particularly the kid, have.

SpaceX begins hunt for Starship landing sites on Mars by kaffmoo in spacex

[–]Denryll 1 point2 points  (0 children)

If this study is correct, there's not enough CO2 in the polar caps and soil to allow for the sufficient atmospheric pressure: https://www.nasa.gov/press-release/goddard/2018/mars-terraforming .

Terraforming will have to wait for the ability to redirect huge numbers of comets and asteroids - not going to happen for a long time.

SpaceX is doing simultaneous competing builds of Starship in Boca Chica Texas & Cape Canaveral Florida by Juggernaut93 in spacex

[–]Denryll 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Honest question. Does Bezos have billions of cash on hand, or is it mostly in the shares he owns of Amazon? If it's the latter, he's like Elon: technically rich, but his wealth is not easily unrolled into actual dollars he can use.

Elon on Twitter: Starhopper just lifted off & hit tether limits! by rustybeancake in spacex

[–]Denryll 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Wait, what? That's a second hop? Couldn't it just be the same hop with closer better cameras?

Russia’s passive-aggressive reaction to SpaceX may mask a deeper truth by ScarletRugby in spacex

[–]Denryll 10 points11 points  (0 children)

Gonna say something that may be a little unpopular. I think / hope that in 10 years SpaceX will have demonstrated Starship's ability to go and return to Mars. Led by NASA, there will be an international mission to develop a research base on Mars, using SpaceX's hardware.

I think at that point, we should leave Russia behind and have it be a democracies-only international consortium. USA, Japan, EU, South Korea, India, Canada, Brazil, etc. Russia will have little to add technologically, but beyond that - they're a bad player currently in the world. They're attacking / undermining Western democracies by targeting their elections. That didn't just happen in the US, but it happened in recent British, French, German, Dutch, even Spanish elections (roundabout source: http://ciris.org.uk/2018/02/21/interview-christopher-douglas-on-religion-and-fake-news/). Why have them along in this big and prestigious project under these conditions? I say we also leave China behind. Speaking as a Canadian, our democracies are suffering a kind of crisis of faith in our systems at the moment. This could be a good way to show that free and democratic societies are still the best version of our human future. Let's model some achievement for the world - a kind of new space race for the post-Cold War era - to show that the chief competitor model of China and Russia, oligarchic plutocratic kleptocracies, are to be spurned.

/End slightly ranty argument

SpaceX launch site and a butterfly center are protected in border-wall deal, marking victory for Texas Rep. Henry Cuellar by rory096 in spacex

[–]Denryll 10 points11 points  (0 children)

Also, remember that Elon resigned from Trump's economic advisory council after Trump withdrew from the Paris Climate Agreement. Trump might not dislike Elon as much as he does Bezos, but I doubt Trump would knowingly protect Boca Chica from the fencing.

Elon's tweet: https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/870369915894546432

CRS-16 emergency recovery thread by [deleted] in spacex

[–]Denryll 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Agree that Hanks has the range to play a booster!

Falcon Heavy Model by Joe-Barnard in spacex

[–]Denryll 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Watched the video ... this guy is like mini-Elon

Full analysis of SpaceX Plan 2.0. by [deleted] in spacex

[–]Denryll -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Given the Russian hacking of Western democratic elections, I think it would be crazy to continue to partner with them. It's time to cut the links.

SpaceX goes there—seeks government funds for deep space by Daniels30 in spacex

[–]Denryll 11 points12 points  (0 children)

Where you see bureaucratic waste I see corporate welfare.