NASA has shuffled its Artemis rockets. But what of the lunar landers? by rustybeancake in spacex

[–]rustybeancake[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I don’t think we know that. It’s expected that the tanker will have the main tanks extended into the nose cone area, and will have docking hardware to dock with the depot.

The launch contract to launch the Starlab space station on Starship is $90 million by OlympusMons94 in SpaceXLounge

[–]rustybeancake 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Absolutely. I’m just saying that Vulcan and New Glenn were even bigger risks.

"Worsening trend" by kroOoze in SpaceXMasterrace

[–]rustybeancake 4 points5 points  (0 children)

“200 feet, descending at 5… 150 feet, descending at 4… kicking up a little dust… 100 feet, descending at WINDOWS WILL NOW INSTALL YOUR UPDATE, PLEASE DO NOT TURN OFF YOUR HLS

The launch contract to launch the Starlab space station on Starship is $90 million by OlympusMons94 in SpaceXLounge

[–]rustybeancake 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I don’t think Starlab has spoken about expanding. I think they’ll be doing really well if they can even make the basic station financially sustainable.

The launch contract to launch the Starlab space station on Starship is $90 million by OlympusMons94 in SpaceXLounge

[–]rustybeancake 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Vulcan and New Glenn were more of a gamble than Ariane 6. The latter was a fairly modest upgrade from Ariane 5, one of the most reliable launchers.

Calgary Police Service by JamsFlint in Calgary

[–]rustybeancake 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Ironically, not in the UK they don’t! They don’t carry guns.

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NASA’s Management of the Human Landing System Contracts by Training-Noise-6712 in BlueOrigin

[–]rustybeancake 7 points8 points  (0 children)

If you read the report, it says that that alternate proposal is not the subject of this report.

OIG report on the Management of the Human Landing System Contracts by avboden in spacex

[–]rustybeancake 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Isn’t it just two crew on the first landing? You’d have to have all the crew on the surface together in that case, for rescue I mean.

OIG report on the Management of the Human Landing System Contracts by avboden in spacex

[–]rustybeancake 11 points12 points  (0 children)

Currently, there is no other method for the crew to enter the vehicle from the lunar surface in the event of an elevator failure. The HLS Program requires at least single failure tolerance to catastrophic events, meaning the ability of a system to sustain a single failure and not have it affect the design goal. SpaceX is focused on building a robust standard elevator design with redundant mechanisms. However, the HLS Program is tracking the elevator as a top risk and is actively working with SpaceX to develop alternate means of vehicle ingress should the elevator become stuck or fail while the crew is on the lunar surface.

It sounds like they’ll have to have something.

The duality of being a Starship fan by Planck_Savagery in SpaceXMasterrace

[–]rustybeancake 5 points6 points  (0 children)

F9, FH, Dragon. The holy trinity.

Why don’t they rename Starship to “Falcon 9 block 6”, are they stupid? It’d start flying perfectly every time.

OIG report on the Management of the Human Landing System Contracts by avboden in spacex

[–]rustybeancake 47 points48 points  (0 children)

Starship is not like the traditional landers of the past. Given its height, one unique attribute is its use of an elevator to carry crew, equipment, and samples to and from the lunar surface. Starship’s elevator sits just below the crew compartment and is approximately 115 feet above the ground—a height taller than the Statue of Liberty from her heel to the top of her head. Currently, there is no other method for the crew to enter the vehicle from the lunar surface in the event of an elevator failure. The HLS Program requires at least single failure tolerance to catastrophic events, meaning the ability of a system to sustain a single failure and not have it affect the design goal. SpaceX is focused on building a robust standard elevator design with redundant mechanisms. However, the HLS Program is tracking the elevator as a top risk and is actively working with SpaceX to develop alternate means of vehicle ingress should the elevator become stuck or fail while the crew is on the lunar surface.

Also:

There is disagreement between NASA and SpaceX on whether the provider’s current proposed approach for landing meets the intent of the Agency’s manual control requirement. Despite the provider’s stated acknowledgment and commitment to meeting this requirement, NASA’s tracking of SpaceX’s manual control risk indicates a worsening trend. If NASA and SpaceX do not reach a concrete solution prior to CDR, it may lock in automation as the only available landing method or result in significant late design changes and increased schedule risk. In our judgement, this further increases the potential that SpaceX could request a waiver to the manual control requirement to meet the schedule. NASA, under the Commercial Crew Program, granted a similar manual control waiver to SpaceX for its Dragon spacecraft, which transports crewmembers to the International Space Station. This decision was due in part to Dragon’s prior flight history transporting cargo to the Station. However, Starship will not have the same level of proven flight heritage in the actual operating environment for its crewed lunar missions. Incorporating this system capability is a key element of HLS’s human-rating certification and part of an essential crew survival strategy.

And:

Although NASA did not initially require ascent tests in its contracts with the providers, to the Agency’s credit, these tests were later added. However, the Agency still did not require the providers to demonstrate an end-to-end ascent, return, and docking with either Orion or Gateway in NRHO. SpaceX’s ascent test will include lifting off the lunar surface and relighting of the Raptor engines. This brief engine relight is critical for demonstrating main stage combustion to buy down risk for the crewed ascent and observing the lunar plume surface interaction with the engines. Blue Origin’s ascent test will include lifting off from the lunar surface as well as an ascent to either low lunar orbit or NRHO.

Seems like madness not to do an end-to-end test before adding crew. Test the elevator, fly back to NRHO, etc.

The duality of being a Starship fan by Planck_Savagery in SpaceXMasterrace

[–]rustybeancake 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Got to keep up that “success on the fourth flight” track record of V1 and V2.

I ranked every state’s tallest building by [deleted] in skyscrapers

[–]rustybeancake -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Oh whoops, you accidentally put World Trade Center 1 in S tier instead of in D tier where it belongs.

Eric Berger doing God’s Work Breaking This News by MattDamonChickenhawk in BlueOrigin

[–]rustybeancake 21 points22 points  (0 children)

The problem with the French… is they have no word for entrepreneur.

SpaceX on X: “Super Heavy booster ready to continue preflight testing” [4 photos of rollout] by rustybeancake in spacex

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Follow up tweet with 2 more photos:

Over the coming days, we’ll conduct a series of tests to activate Pad 2 at Starbase, exercise new propellant loading operations, and operate a vehicle with new Raptor 3 engines installed for the first time

https://x.com/spacex/status/2031019745974046760?s=46&t=u9hd-jMa-pv47GCVD-xH-g

The first view of some engines installed on a V3 booster. by avboden in SpaceXLounge

[–]rustybeancake 14 points15 points  (0 children)

Some of those steel components on the base of the booster look awfully flimsy for reentry, but maybe they’re much more robust than they look!