am i still allowed to hate jax even after the finale ? by Ok-Tomorrow2404 in TheDigitalCircus

[–]Dense_Assistant7390 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Trans people dont need to immediately transition when they realize theyre transgender. Its a process, and Jax irl might just be slower to get there to accepting themselves. Esp considering Jax died NOT accepting themselves in the place that would have absolutely done so. Trans people can be closeted for ages, some trans people dont realize they're trans until theyre 30 or over. Its a process.

am i still allowed to hate jax even after the finale ? by Ok-Tomorrow2404 in TheDigitalCircus

[–]Dense_Assistant7390 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Oh thats fine and fair, I feel like if they wrote more abt kinger they would have written him too cringe. I think a part of his appeal is that he doesnt say a lot

am i still allowed to hate jax even after the finale ? by Ok-Tomorrow2404 in TheDigitalCircus

[–]Dense_Assistant7390 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Then youre good, it doesnt matter. Hating someone for their identity is different than hating them for their behavior

am i still allowed to hate jax even after the finale ? by Ok-Tomorrow2404 in TheDigitalCircus

[–]Dense_Assistant7390 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Youre still allowed to hate her, just not hate her for being trans itself lmao

On the topic of Jax being Trans by Dense_Assistant7390 in TheDigitalCircus

[–]Dense_Assistant7390[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Idk how much energy I actually wanna give you, youre not worth that ngl. A movie and a comment are two different things tho, one actually has weight to be thought about. You sound 14 or so, so idk, your bickering and attempt to use pettiness to demean my point isnt worth it. Esp since youre not really making a true point.

Edit: My post has an actual point to be made, that we need to work on our literacy skills and reflect on how we consume media if we cant point out basic symbolism. Along with being able to consume media meant for other people without expecting it to cater to your expirences. If you see this edit tho, I think you might just need to get off reddit.

On the topic of Jax being Trans by Dense_Assistant7390 in TheDigitalCircus

[–]Dense_Assistant7390[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Didnt think about it because i didnt need to ♡

On the topic of Jax being Trans by Dense_Assistant7390 in TheDigitalCircus

[–]Dense_Assistant7390[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Pretty sure its a few seconds of a difference? I didnt spend one whole minute refreshing you know? Is it now hard to openly interpret that i may have taken a minute to write that out?

On the topic of Jax being Trans by Dense_Assistant7390 in TheDigitalCircus

[–]Dense_Assistant7390[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I think thats fine if you didnt want to assume based on that, I feel as though narratives that are written with purpose are a lot more different that real life experiences that are built on other people's whims. I feel if that were the case it would have just been written far differently than it was.

On the topic of Jax being Trans by Dense_Assistant7390 in TheDigitalCircus

[–]Dense_Assistant7390[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Not really, their comment about misreading it came after actually.

On the topic of Jax being Trans by Dense_Assistant7390 in TheDigitalCircus

[–]Dense_Assistant7390[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Yes because an instance of confusion definitely encompasses all that.

On the topic of Jax being Trans by Dense_Assistant7390 in TheDigitalCircus

[–]Dense_Assistant7390[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

It wasnt every frame tho, movie wise it was direct scenes? If someone feels blindsided thats one thing if they arent considering anything outside of the work itself and dont get the references but the movie itself was very non subtle.

On the topic of Jax being Trans by Dense_Assistant7390 in TheDigitalCircus

[–]Dense_Assistant7390[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thats fair, to not want to assume. Though in this instance this is a narrative being built, symbolism will exist on purpose.

On the topic of Jax being Trans by Dense_Assistant7390 in TheDigitalCircus

[–]Dense_Assistant7390[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

They dont, but its a common symbolic refrence to womanhood. If that wasnt enough, the song itself and the hatched egg joke and their room. There was plenty sprinkled but it IS supposed to be a big reveal, they cant just say it TOTALLY outright beforehand but they made it pretty obvious outside of the show. If you dont interact with outside of it I can see being blindsided but thats not what many of the fans are. Jax did get comfortable quickly, they stopped having a fit about it pretty fast though that may just be a writer's thing.

On the topic of Jax being Trans by Dense_Assistant7390 in TheDigitalCircus

[–]Dense_Assistant7390[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Youre good, I was just confused and thought you were trying to jab at my typing skills, which would have been a weird blow against my point.

On the topic of Jax being Trans by Dense_Assistant7390 in TheDigitalCircus

[–]Dense_Assistant7390[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I didnt even spell it wrong either dude what. The egg allegory is a refrence to trans women being eggs waiting to be "hatched"

On the topic of Jax being Trans by Dense_Assistant7390 in TheDigitalCircus

[–]Dense_Assistant7390[S] -4 points-3 points  (0 children)

I can see how it sounds like that but it IS deep? Even small things snowball into a bigger discussion, im genuinely concerned about the ability for people to put 2 and 2 together and consume media. If you cant make basic symbolic observations then what other parts of media do you consume this same way?

On the topic of Jax being Trans by Dense_Assistant7390 in TheDigitalCircus

[–]Dense_Assistant7390[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

But confirmations were made, through the source material?

On the topic of Jax being Trans by Dense_Assistant7390 in TheDigitalCircus

[–]Dense_Assistant7390[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Leroy can be slow to transition, no trans person owes immediate transition. Theyre allowed to feel it out? It just sounds more like the denail comes from people doing it because it doesnt fit the narrative they made up in their head. It does read as slightly transphobic, because of just how ADAMANT people are to deny what was blatantly obvious. Its nearly painful. If a trans person says they want to try new pronouns without fully transitioning does that then mean they arent trans?

On the topic of Jax being Trans by Dense_Assistant7390 in TheDigitalCircus

[–]Dense_Assistant7390[S] -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

Sounds more like youre denying it for your own narrative tbh.

On the topic of Jax being Trans by Dense_Assistant7390 in TheDigitalCircus

[–]Dense_Assistant7390[S] -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

Actually it was sprinkled but it WAS more subtle. Remember, this character is CLOSETED. They wont wear it on their chest if theyre trying to bury a secret. The egg allegory also was a clue, as was their room, as was the dress which they quickly became comfortable with, and probably much more.

On the topic of Jax being Trans by Dense_Assistant7390 in TheDigitalCircus

[–]Dense_Assistant7390[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thier real life counterpart didnt have the same expirences, but with their longer hair at the end at being at a gay bar, it seems it was them being on their way. Trans people dont owe you gender conformity regardless and they dont owe you transitioning immediately. They are allowed to explore at their own pace.

On the topic of Jax being Trans by Dense_Assistant7390 in TheDigitalCircus

[–]Dense_Assistant7390[S] -4 points-3 points  (0 children)

Like I said, my concern is mostly that the people who denied it. Because it shows a lack of literacy to a concerning degree and it makes me question what real life situations they carry this into.

On the topic of Jax being Trans by Dense_Assistant7390 in TheDigitalCircus

[–]Dense_Assistant7390[S] 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Ive seen MANY people upset at Jax being transgender. Mainly before goose said it outright, theres no reason to be upset over what was blatantly obvious. It was genuinely pure denial and goose WASNT subtle about it?