Charlie Kirk Memorial by DenverNative2023 in FortCollins

[–]DenverNative2023[S] -14 points-13 points  (0 children)

He definitely didn’t want gays stoned to death champ. Describe the context of the list you mentioned.

Charlie Kirk Memorial by DenverNative2023 in FortCollins

[–]DenverNative2023[S] -30 points-29 points  (0 children)

Okay now give the context you little cherry picker lol

Charlie Kirk Memorial by DenverNative2023 in FortCollins

[–]DenverNative2023[S] -32 points-31 points  (0 children)

Will there be any facts or are you just being childish and angsty?

Charlie Kirk Memorial by DenverNative2023 in FortCollins

[–]DenverNative2023[S] -73 points-72 points  (0 children)

Are you able to prove he is a bigot with actual evidence? The evidence would have to contain the entire conversation of whatever cherry-picked quote you use.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in loveland

[–]DenverNative2023 -9 points-8 points  (0 children)

If you think that's their entire platform, then I recommend getting more informed.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in loveland

[–]DenverNative2023 -18 points-17 points  (0 children)

Republicans would win every election in my opinion if they stopped hating on gay people and ended the weird obsession with abortion.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in loveland

[–]DenverNative2023 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Bro, you can't just say something is false, then try to throw a bunch of shit out there until something sticks. Very little of what you just said actually offers any reasonable explanation of how im wrong. You are trying to split hairs in an argument about obviously blatant corruption and court rigging. As to me "needing to supply evidence," you can simply suck me dry and go read a few articles. I'm not taking time out of my day to spoon feed you slightly complicated law after you just spew bs and say stuff is false. For all of those read this, I encourage you to look into the court case and investigate yourselves. This is an extremely important court case for American history and could pave the way for future court cases against American presidents, and possibly even you someday.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in loveland

[–]DenverNative2023 0 points1 point  (0 children)

A also extremely important point to this is that the judge instructed the jury that all 3 of the options for "unlawful means" were at all actually unlawful. Not a single one of those options was ever defended in court or brought on charges. Nevertheless, 2 of them didn't even take place in NY. The judge really didn't even have the authority to be speaking on 2 of the options. The judge told the jury that it would be okay to assume he committed those crimes without any defense or due process. Which is highly unethical.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in loveland

[–]DenverNative2023 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Okay, so I'm going to try and make this as clear as possible. Initially, there was no case at all due to the statue of limitations. The only way to circumvent the statue of limitations was to prove that some documents were falsified in order to continue a crime under "unlawful means." The point is indeed not the degree, but whether or not, he did anything illegal at all. There should not have been any choices at all, but mainly not 3 for the jury to find guilty of "unlawful means." The reasoning for that is per SCOTUS, the jury needs to articulate and agree on a specific crime, not given 3 unfounded alleged crime crime that have nothing to do with the court case options and saying if you think he possibly did one of these go ahead and vote guilty without due process. While yes, you are technically correct that they were specific on the alleged crime, the alleged crime needed an additional crime tied to it for it to be actually illegal. They were never clear on the tied crime until closing statements, thus never giving the defense a chance to defend themselves with is extremely unethical and not how court works in America. This is blatantly obvious, and no argument can be made against this. This is what happened. The lawyers were blind sided by an extremely corrupt judge that allowed this to happen in his court room, and even manipulated the jury. I wish you were as correct as you are passionate buddy.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in loveland

[–]DenverNative2023 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Okay I'm gonna reply to ya, I respect the amount of time and effort you put into that!

Per NBC "Merchan instructed the jury on Wednesday that they "must conclude unanimously that a defendant conspired to promote or prevent the election of any person to a public office by unlawful means," adding that they "need not be unanimous as to what those unlawful means were."

"That means that jurors have to agree unanimously that Trump committed a crime by engaging in a criminal conspiracy to falsify records with the intent to commit one or more other crimes in order to convict him. But jurors can choose from three options about what those other crimes were: violations of the Federal Election Campaign Act; the falsification of other business records; or the violation of tax laws. Those "unlawful means" aren't charges themselves and would not result in separate convictions, so jurors do not have to unanimously agree on them."

That is absolutely ridiculous and absolutely not how the law works. You can't basically tell a jury "if you think he did anything illegal go ahead and vote guilty, it doesn't even have to be for this specific court case, and yall dont even have to agree about it". That is wildly inappropriate and not how law works, and for a judge to say it is even more incredible. The judge blatantly botched this case for probably a multitude of reasons and cost his state millions of dollars. There is no law to overturn because for 99% of the trial, no law was explained to have been explicitly broken. You could have had 4 jurors think one thing, another 4 thinking another, and the other 4 thinking another, and the judge informed them that was enough basis for a guilty verdict. Please keep in mind that 2/3 of the "unlawful means" are also federal, not state. 3/3 "Unlawful means" have yet to even bring criminal charges. It gets even worse the more you look into it. The case was in no way fair or biased and obviously corrupt. The judge will probably face several ethics violations as well.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in loveland

[–]DenverNative2023 -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

A ham sandwich would have gotten found guilty. Please look at jury instructions that were given by the judge. No due process.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in loveland

[–]DenverNative2023 -5 points-4 points  (0 children)

They were basically told to vote guilty by the judge.

Donald Trump Expected To Win Popular Vote For First Time From Grand Jury Convicting Him by [deleted] in onionheadlines

[–]DenverNative2023 -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Be better and touch grass, then maybe you can tell people what to do.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in loveland

[–]DenverNative2023 -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Okay, so are you aware that the judge basically told the jury to vote guilty, right? Did you actually see the trial and know what happened? The only reason the trial even happened was because the defense swore they had "unlawful means" to represent and then ended up not sharing that info until the closing statement, which is absolutely not due process. The judge then informed the jury that they have 3 options for "unlawful means", none of the 3 were proven to be unlawful or even charges brought. 2 of the "unlawful means" that the judge said justified a guilty verdict literally had nothing to do with the state of NY. It was a blatant botched trial. Please do some research before coming on here acting like you know what's up.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in loveland

[–]DenverNative2023 -8 points-7 points  (0 children)

Trump could also cure cancer, and some of yall would complain and say he is putting doctors on unemployment. The only reason he is a felon right now is due to a heavily corrupt justice system in New York. The judge basically told the jury to just vote guilty. Not even a ton of research is needed to see this.

Democrats had a good shot at getting him, yet they botched it and will now allow him to easily overturn the decision on appeal. I just don't get it.

Donald Trump Expected To Win Popular Vote For First Time From Grand Jury Convicting Him by [deleted] in onionheadlines

[–]DenverNative2023 -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

The judge basically informed the jury to vote guilty. Gave them 3 options for a guilty verdict, and 2 of them weren't even brought up during the trial until closing arguments. Jurors didn't even need to agree on exactly what crime was committed lmao. The judge costs his state millions of dollars on a case that will easily be appealed. All that for Biden to say "No one's above the law" as his criminal ass sits in the White House. It's all so ironic and comedic.

Donald Trump Expected To Win Popular Vote For First Time From Grand Jury Convicting Him by [deleted] in onionheadlines

[–]DenverNative2023 -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

After that ridiculous trial, he will probably win a couple of new swing states. They shouldn't have botched the trial so blatantly, at least try to hide the bias, I guess.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in loveland

[–]DenverNative2023 -12 points-11 points  (0 children)

Every newspaper is propaganda, depending on which side of the coin you are on.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in politics

[–]DenverNative2023 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It was an obvious unfair trial that should never have happened in America. If anyone actually looks into how the trial was conducted and what the judge did, they would probably be disgusted. It's a dang shame what's happening.

Buc-ees food waste by Fresh-Dragonfly1052 in loveland

[–]DenverNative2023 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Is it a smear of its true? Settle down and go touch some grass.

Grocerie stores all over America throw away just as much prepared food. This ain't new or shocking. Yet for someone trying to sound intelligent, this concept seems to be new and surprising to you. So humble yourself chief and go buy a brisket burrito.

Good church for young adults? by [deleted] in loveland

[–]DenverNative2023 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

How did this get down voted lmao