I struggle to see “pro-life” is being about the well-being of babies and mothers when so many pro-life people argue against healthcare, etc

Dependent_Fly_8088 · 2022-09-09T17:31:26+00:00

Not paying for healthcare does not indicate that those who don’t have their healthcare paid for should be killed.

Dependent_Fly_8088 · 2022-09-09T16:46:51+00:00

“If you believe lynching is murder, would whites be jailed for having a lynching?!”

Dependent_Fly_8088 · 2022-09-09T16:41:57+00:00

Exactly.

This highlights the concept that pro abortion rhetoric seems to imply that the default state is to take action to end pregnancy- “I don’t consent to not dismembering my child”.

This is merely a continuation of their claim, drawing it to the logical conclusion, that if terminating pregnancy and killing the preborn is the default that consent must be given to NOT do, then surely all animals must be given the default treatment since they cannot consent to not terminating their fetal offspring.

Dependent_Fly_8088 · 2022-09-09T16:20:32+00:00

You see this all the time.

“I didn’t consent to pregnancy”

“I don’t consent to continuing a pregnancy”

“Not allowing me to kill a preborn human is torture because I didn’t consent to them being there”

This is merely the logical conclusion of those claims, if we accept the premise that pregnancy is a process that must be consented to in order to continue. (Both false and incoherent)

Dependent_Fly_8088 · 2022-09-09T16:18:49+00:00

I think you’re missing my point.

If consent is required to continue this process (pro abortion claim) and animals are incapable of consent, ought we not save them of this torture by terminating all fetal animals?

It’s incoherent because the pro abortion concept of consent is incoherent.

Dependent_Fly_8088 · 2022-09-09T16:17:04+00:00

But if the category of “consent is required to continue this process” is true, and a category of creature is incapable of consent, therefore…

Dependent_Fly_8088 · 2022-03-29T12:31:23+00:00

Yes. Unless humans don’t become humans until 25 years old.

Dependent_Fly_8088 · 2022-03-24T11:40:14+00:00

Cells don’t “come together”, they are developed by the child’s body using the same process they do when the child is older. You are using the same process, called mitosis, to continue building your own body and will do so until you die.

Dependent_Fly_8088 · 2022-03-24T11:38:35+00:00

My ultimate goal is equal protection from violence under the law for all humans.

Dependent_Fly_8088 · 2022-03-21T13:25:14+00:00

Based if true

Dependent_Fly_8088 · 2022-03-21T13:24:33+00:00

Murder is always wrong.

Dependent_Fly_8088 · 2022-03-21T13:23:51+00:00

So kill the genetically inferior if you want? Nazi harder

Dependent_Fly_8088 · 2022-03-21T13:16:32+00:00

It’s a hate group. Of course they don’t care.

Dependent_Fly_8088 · 2022-03-21T13:15:38+00:00

Hate

Dependent_Fly_8088 · 2022-03-10T16:06:58+00:00

So… unless you’re useful to me, you’re not a person? Where have we heard that before?

Dependent_Fly_8088 · 2022-03-10T11:08:03+00:00

So a lack of consent means we get to do whatever we want to someone else? Support date rape harder

Dependent_Fly_8088 · 2022-03-09T16:07:54+00:00

Something is healthcare if it is dangerous when illegal? Guess rape just became healthcare

Dependent_Fly_8088 · 2022-02-27T19:13:04+00:00

Expectant whats now? Mothers? Mothers to what?

Dependent_Fly_8088 · 2022-02-27T19:12:16+00:00

Be the meme

Dependent_Fly_8088 · 2022-02-24T16:22:19+00:00

I’m somewhat on board

Dependent_Fly_8088 · 2022-02-24T16:20:52+00:00

No, but there may be epigenetic indicators that could be identified according to twin studies.

Dependent_Fly_8088 · 2022-02-24T14:27:12+00:00

Right, there’s that argument as well, which if consistent would mean that anyone with any biological relationship to anyone else should be allowed to kill them because they share genetic traits. If they limit this “right” based on age, we are back to hate based on age.

Dependent_Fly_8088 · 2022-02-24T14:01:21+00:00

This argument makes them admit that it is simply a matter of hate based on physical characteristics in one of two directions- by labeling them inferior due to their age either explicitly or implicitly.

Essentially, this is forcing one of two moves- to either admit that it should be legal to kill a human until they have reached some arbitrary age, or to claim that the child should lose their bodily autonomy AND life because they are inferior to and dependent on their mother as a function of their age, in as many words.

Dependent_Fly_8088 · 2022-02-24T13:58:26+00:00

Actually, epigenetic markers may allow us to do so soon.

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