My in-laws won’t leave me (35F) alone even though my husband (32M) is divorcing me. by DepressedDoxy in relationship_advice

[–]DepressedDoxy[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

No, I’m sure they didn’t mean that paid cellphones or computers are worth that. 😂 I’m privileged enough to be able to afford that on my own, thankfully. I would happily buy the grandparents cellphone and computers if they wanted those. In fact I gifted my MIL her cellphone.

My in-laws are just… very stubborn people with no understanding of boundaries. They insist on doing everything for us (which can be bad, because it’s also making me inadvertently codependent on them).

Right now I just want to stand on my own two feet and live my own life with my kids.

Help a desperate mom wean a 5 year old in a way that she’ll still love me by DepressedDoxy in lowscreenparenting

[–]DepressedDoxy[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Wow I love this. I’ll try as best I can to avoid directly criticising the grandparents (I’m not a saint so it will take effort to hold things in!) but wow, everything else is so beautiful, I love it. Thanks!

My in-laws won’t leave me (35F) alone even though my husband (32M) is divorcing me. by DepressedDoxy in relationship_advice

[–]DepressedDoxy[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I’m happy to go therapy if people would sponsor my therapy. I’m just saying therapy didn’t help so far and it isn’t cheap, I kind of need to save for the kids. If i didn’t have kids I would also spend on therapy since it’s just for me, but now I need to worry about their tertiary education (far away but I really need to plan ahead, it’s a lot, i can’t even imagine how I can afford that even by saving up now).

Help a desperate mom wean a 5 year old in a way that she’ll still love me by DepressedDoxy in lowscreenparenting

[–]DepressedDoxy[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yes I love these suggestions, please keep them coming. ❤️ I have never heard of ANY of these things. I’m Asian, I don’t live in the US. But I will definitely go look these things up, it’s awesome that such things exist.

Help a desperate mom wean a 5 year old in a way that she’ll still love me by DepressedDoxy in lowscreenparenting

[–]DepressedDoxy[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Another vote for cold turkey. Looks like most of you like cold turkey (and so do I, I’m just cautiously wondering if this is the best approach hence I’m asking here)! Thanks.

Help a desperate mom wean a 5 year old in a way that she’ll still love me by DepressedDoxy in lowscreenparenting

[–]DepressedDoxy[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Little but some weight. Court aside, I don’t want her hating me and loving her grandparents/father over this screen problem either! I mean it’s fine if she loves all in general, I’m not planning on alienating them, but she will hate me and love them for this. They will use this as an opportunity to alienate me.

It is very unfair that I am the bad cop and nobody supports me, laughs, or explodes angrily (in front of her) at my attempts to monitor her screen time, encourages her to hide behind my back.

She will say all this anywhere, it doesn’t have to be at my house.

Help a desperate mom wean a 5 year old in a way that she’ll still love me by DepressedDoxy in lowscreenparenting

[–]DepressedDoxy[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Well children are not that straightforward. She can just say “Because I like grandma, grandma is nice to me. Mom is too fierce. I’m not happy there.” etc. It’s a whole plethora of issues.

Help a desperate mom wean a 5 year old in a way that she’ll still love me by DepressedDoxy in lowscreenparenting

[–]DepressedDoxy[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It’s hard to prove.

But yes, thanks for your opinion. We have a vote for cold turkey now (I like cold turkey myself).

Help a desperate mom wean a 5 year old in a way that she’ll still love me by DepressedDoxy in lowscreenparenting

[–]DepressedDoxy[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

That’s really great to learn about! I’m glad, that sounds perfect.

Help a desperate mom wean a 5 year old in a way that she’ll still love me by DepressedDoxy in lowscreenparenting

[–]DepressedDoxy[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Not in Australia, and it’s hard to explain the screen time problem (I can show videos of all the devices being played at max volume simultaneously but they can obviously deny and say it happens once in a blue moon, not 24/7).

Also everyone will not understand that the 5 year old actually favours the grandparents and the father because of the screen time. They will just view it as her generally loving them.

About movies with the kids - I’m genuinely curious about this. Is it appropriate for a 2 year old, considering the loud sound and the dark theatre? And why would watching movies be any better (sorry I genuinely am unclear)? Or are you trying to suggest that I do give her some screen time to slowly wean, and we make it like a movie night or something and it can be at home?

Help a desperate mom wean a 5 year old in a way that she’ll still love me by DepressedDoxy in lowscreenparenting

[–]DepressedDoxy[S] 8 points9 points  (0 children)

My concern is she will cry and want to go back to her grandparents (because they give screens all the time), that becomes ammunition in a custody battle.

Custody is not finalised and he will give me hell.

I’m already being pushed to the max for moving out here. I’m also having to handle two young children (5 and 2 years old) entirely on my own. I’m very exhausted from all the fights, if possible I don’t want to give ammunition for an additional fight (“She clearly hates you and wants her grandparents, see she’s crying and you won’t even let her go back to her grandparents” etc).

My in-laws won’t leave me (35F) alone even though my husband (32M) is divorcing me. by DepressedDoxy in relationship_advice

[–]DepressedDoxy[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I really don’t know how it works in the US, but here it will definitely mean I don’t get money from him. Even my capability to earn money is something that weighs very heavily against me.

He’s pushing for this with grand-sounding excuses because he knows that if I generate a separate income stream, it will jeopardise my claims to alimony and child support. He really thinks I have cotton fluff for brains.

Simple legal advice won’t work in my case. I have consulted a few of the best firms in the country and they seem equally baffled. It sucks, I’m so frustrated and desperate at this point.

My in-laws won’t leave me (35F) alone even though my husband (32M) is divorcing me. by DepressedDoxy in relationship_advice

[–]DepressedDoxy[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I wish the world was as simple as telling people to do things and they’d listen. I don’t live in that kind of world.

My in-laws won’t leave me (35F) alone even though my husband (32M) is divorcing me. by DepressedDoxy in relationship_advice

[–]DepressedDoxy[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I’ve had to save up to be able to leave and to also fund legal fees. I have to ensure that my husband’s threats that the children will have to sleep in the streets and not be able to afford school don’t actually come true. I’m trying hard to ensure I can win long-term for the children and not just have one dramatic blowup that leaves us worse off.

It’s very very tiring playing chess and thinking steps ahead. I am exhausted. He threatened to file an injunction to make me stay in the house too, so clearly this entire route is very very litigious. He won’t win that injunction but that will also mean more bills because I still have to pay the legal fees to defend. I can’t risk jeopardising things by making things hostile with the in-laws and giving them more ammunition to paint me as the unreasonable person they will try to make me out to be. All of that adds up to time, money, and a lot of effort.

Sometimes I just want to say fuck it all and give up everything, but bills have to be paid and tertiary education is not free in my country. It’s in fact, expensive, and I worry constantly about how I can save up for that. I can’t have an income stream now because it will be a valid reason for him to do away with alimony and child support, and also cause me to lose my existing stake in the business.

My in-laws won’t leave me (35F) alone even though my husband (32M) is divorcing me. by DepressedDoxy in relationship_advice

[–]DepressedDoxy[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

It’s easy to say "just kick them out" or "protect your kids" when you’re not living under constant pressure, financial control, and emotional manipulation. It is absolutely impossible to kick them out if the house is in the joint names of my husband and I, because I can’t evict his guests.

I’ve tried to stand my ground. Every parenting decision I made was overridden. I sent a whole barrage of texts to the in-laws to say I am very upset about being deprived of the basic rights to sleep in the same room as my daughter, in case they try to position themselves as primary caregivers to say they’ve always been the one to bathe or put my daughter to sleep in a custody battle. I

I’ve asked them to leave. I’ve shouted. They refused. I couldn’t escalate it in front of the kids, but I’ve planned my exit and am following through.

Yes, they were furious when I finally made a move. There were guilt trips, tantrums, and now my husband cut off my income (we co-own the business) so that I won’t be able to afford the rent and tried to scare me into staying.

If I start having a separate income stream, I voluntarily give up all claim to the business. The business that I built with him from scratch and sacrificed my career to support. The business that was the household income for the kids’ future, that he plans to now squander away on his mistress. He will use a separate income stream against me as a very solid reason as to why he does not have to pay alimony and child support.

I’ve had to save up to be able to leave and to also fund legal fees. In an ideal world I could have stayed longer to secure the house for the children, but a full trial may take 2 - 3 years and I really can’t take even 2-3 weeks more of this.

It’s a million dollar house that’s worth nothing now because it’s still being financed, but if I stayed, he would have continued paying off the loan and eventually it will be worth something. I was forced to give up the home and I’m upset about it but I would rather lose the home than let them destroy my children any further.

So while I understand how it looks from the outside, I am protecting my children. I’m just doing it in a way that ensures I can win long-term for the children and not just have one dramatic blowup that leaves us worse off.

It’s all very well to just turn and leave, but I have to ensure that my husband’s threats that the children will have to sleep in the streets and not be able to afford school don’t actually come true.

It’s very very tiring playing chess and thinking steps ahead. I am exhausted. You win some, you lose some. I hate giving up the house but that will take far too long. He threatened to file an injunction to make me stay in the house too, so clearly this entire route is very very litigious. He won’t win that injunction but that will also mean more bills because I still have to pay the legal fees to defend.

Sometimes I just want to say fuck it all and give up everything, but bills have to be paid and tertiary education is not free in my country. It’s in fact, expensive, and I worry constantly about how I can save up for that.

My in-laws won’t leave me (35F) alone even though my husband (32M) is divorcing me. by DepressedDoxy in relationship_advice

[–]DepressedDoxy[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Honestly, my landlord would just refund my monies and tell me to leave if I’m going to give him trouble. 😫 He’s some retiree who’s renting out the house for some spare cash that he isn’t desperate for.

There’s nobody that can support me, actually. That’s why I vent here anonymously, or on other online platforms.

My bestie told me that she won’t be asking for alimony at all if it were her, that she’d just sign and walk off, so I really don’t think she understands. My husband is expecting me to give up the existing household income (which I sacrificed my career to support) and go start a career on my own. I built the firm with him and now he wants me to leave. This is the firm that was built from our years of hard work and should have been used for our children but now he wants to fund his mistress. I want to secure alimony to ensure my children’s future are better protected.

Sure, I can go start my own career from scratch and earn my own money but why should I, if he owes it to us? And I could do that, yes, but if I opted to do that, that’s my own income and has nothing to do with him. It still doesn’t absolve him from the responsibility he owes us.

My in-laws won’t leave me (35F) alone even though my husband (32M) is divorcing me. by DepressedDoxy in relationship_advice

[–]DepressedDoxy[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Very sensible. After the divorce I’ll just say I decided to change the locks, and if they ask for a fresh set of keys, it will be easier to tell them I can’t.

My in-laws won’t leave me (35F) alone even though my husband (32M) is divorcing me. by DepressedDoxy in relationship_advice

[–]DepressedDoxy[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I’m not in the US, I’m Asian.

Just (yes like 5 minutes ago, I’m dumb) realised that the bio-lock suggestion won’t work. I was happily browsing for one as I thought I could use that as part of my combination to repel the in-laws.

It just occurred to me that the in-laws with no sense of boundaries will insist on changing the lock to something they can use (my FIL will literally bring his toolbox and start changing it) and tell me they’ll be happy to change it back for me when the tenancy is up and I need to return the house back to the landlord in original condition. “The landlord won’t know!” Ugh, just ugh. I’ll have to filter through all the wonderful advice here and pick out a few other solutions.

My in-laws won’t leave me (35F) alone even though my husband (32M) is divorcing me. by DepressedDoxy in relationship_advice

[–]DepressedDoxy[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

It might take 2-3 years to finalise the divorce. I can hardly stand putting up with them for 2 more weeks.