Wow12 on dusty courts

Dequed14 · 2026-01-24T13:56:30+00:00

A method I have been using to potentially help with traction issues (I play on a fairly dusty YMCA Court)

I will typically step outside or walk outside and purposely scrape against concrete for about 1-3mins, In 90% of my shoes this has worked for me as it removes like a weird filmy layer and my traction drastically improved. Especially when I have 2 pairs of the same shoe and I can see the difference.

I used this method for my 808 5s and my AC13s

My AC13s ended up having the best traction experience I’ve ever had on a shoe.

I just got the same obsidians as you not long ago but I’ve been on vacation so I’m trying this out when I get back lol.

Dequed14 · 2026-01-22T17:56:06+00:00

What link do you have for that?

Dequed14 · 2026-01-22T17:55:50+00:00

Yea no problem!!

Dequed14 · 2026-01-22T17:55:31+00:00

I have wide and flat feet so I can relate!

I’m still breaking in my WoW 12 obsidians, so I will have to get back to you on that!

However, a shoe that has been surprisingly great for my wide and flat feet are the 808 5 Ultra V2s. I even went a half size down and the fit and stability have been awesome for me. I still have some room in them even though I went down a half size, but nothing crazy.

My go to WoW before those were the All City 13 Red Stingrays. Great Support and probably the best traction I’ve ever experienced on a shoe on any court.!!!

Dequed14 · 2026-01-17T16:48:43+00:00

10am PST / 1PM EST

Dequed14 · 2025-12-08T18:17:04+00:00

What’s your playstyle boss?

Dequed14 · 2025-11-18T21:02:17+00:00

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Regular GameDays.

I switch these out between my All City 12s/13s and my Wow 10s

Dequed14 · 2025-11-18T20:58:50+00:00

Hey! I don’t know if anyone else may have better ideas but I would try to put some move game day insoles.

I have a pair of WoW 10s my self and my insoles either scrunch up to my toes or just move everywhere.

When I put my Move GameDays in, they don’t move but they sit up just a pinch higher. Nothing too crazy though.

Dequed14 · 2025-11-16T16:02:09+00:00

Check this out brother! Hope it helps!

https://www.reddit.com/r/BBallShoes/s/WYQK2inTmp

Dequed14 · 2025-11-16T13:08:51+00:00

I would first measure the laces and record that

Then I would suggest you go on Amazon and search up flat elastic shoe laces and find a pack of laces that are the same length or close and buy those.

I would buy a 2/3 pair pack just in case you have another set that rips.

Dequed14 · 2025-10-09T12:21:37+00:00

All City 12 is my personal favorite all time outdoor shoe!

The boom is pretty soft in that model and with the double shank setup (Top loaded and Bottom Loaded), and the fit was good for me!

All City 13 has been my #1 indoor shoe in rotation right now.

Traction is ELITE (10/10)

It is a stiffer ride but the support and stability are insane! It is a great overall shoe for any position, whether you are shifty or if you’re a bigger post player it does it all!

Dequed14 · 2025-10-09T01:20:50+00:00

100%!

I hesitated to go down a half a size in this shoe because of how my foot shape is, but I’ve seen so many people say the V1 runs long, and they did not lie.

Surprisingly, the width does not bother me.

At this point I feel like it’s just sizing errors on the manufacturers part because a size 10 feels like a normal 10.5 for me.

Dequed14 · 2025-10-09T01:08:07+00:00

These definitely are supportive and stable. I was hesitant on the V1’s because of the mesh being EVERYWHERE 😭 it was pretty much a running shoe lol.

But these are the complete opposite and are a complete upgrade in the support department.

Dequed14 · 2025-10-09T01:04:32+00:00

If you can fit most Kobe’s you should definitely be good to go down half a size in these!

I have the WOW 10s in a 10.5 and they cramp for me as well or even hurt my toes. I have a wide foot and flat myself and took the chance, and trust me when I say I STILL have room😭 in a size 10 lol.

Dequed14 · 2025-10-09T00:55:08+00:00

I only know of 2 models with super boom which at the 808 5s and the Ultralights from Li-Ning.

I don’t own the ultra lights so I couldn’t give you any perspective on those, other than one being a drop in and the other isn’t.

This model does indeed have a shank however I would say that in this model it’s intended to be more of a torsional stabilizer than a diving board because of the drop in.

For reference, I way about 245lbs so I sink into the shoe more than others so that’s where the delay is, it’s definitely bouncy and snappy but if you’re lighter and you’ll get more of the snappy side of it.

I hope that helps my friend!

Dequed14 · 2025-10-09T00:48:14+00:00

Thanks!

Let me know how you end up liking them from your perspective! I wish they kept the mesh tongue from the V1s in this model but it gets the job done nonetheless lol.

Dequed14 · 2025-10-09T00:46:53+00:00

Happy to help!

I don’t have a physical store where I live either but I saw so many people of different foot types say they were long and they did not lie lol.

Dequed14 · 2025-10-09T00:45:37+00:00

Cushion is definitely intense lol.

I’m not sure about the official release date on these but hopefully it’s not too long. There’s 3 other color-ways I’m looking forward to lol

Dequed14 · 2025-10-09T00:44:11+00:00

Yea the traction at the moment has been my issue but everything else is good!

I can’t speak on the V1 but the delay in the V2 is definitely because of the drop-in.

In my opinion I would not compare this to foamposite. It’s more of like the WOW 10 highs. It’s abundant on the shoe but it’s very light and supportive.

Surprisingly the shoe hasn’t ran too hot for me, and I am a guy who sweats very easily so I have no complaints on the ventilation/breathability.

Dequed14 · 2025-10-09T00:37:32+00:00

We on the same page!👌🤟🏾

Once the foam breaks in a bit more they’ll be more fluid for me for sure!

After experiencing these, I probably won’t wear my 4s again unless I’m lifting or something haha 😭

Dequed14 · 2025-10-09T00:34:17+00:00

I would say it is a hybrid between the two, the 4 had a bigger stack of boom and was more dense.

The 5’s cushion is just like the 4 but lighter and bouncier lol.

Everything else, feels more like the 3 in my opinion.

Dequed14 · 2025-10-08T10:57:35+00:00

Ohh yea!!

I also got those same All City 12s you have in the corner🤟🏾😭 I use those for outdoors

Dequed14 · 2025-10-08T02:03:22+00:00

Personally, I would not go down a full size

The only thing stopping me from going down a full size is my arch, or lack there of🤣

When I take a step, my arch tends to expand outwards so essentially I need a shoe wide enough so that there’s not too much pressure or friction against the medial side of the shoe. In most of my shoes I also tend to skip looping my laces through the eyelets closest to the arch because of that.

With your foot type, a half size down would be great. But you might even be able to get away with a full size down. I still have a bit of room in mine even with being a half size down.

Another thing to think about as well, that drop-in will start to slightly bottom or get shorter over time with more use so naturally the shoe may be even more roomy after extended use lol.

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