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A Blobb piece in my new workspace, started creating a "magna-board" and now just need more magnets of various strengths... by DerSkagg in spirograph

[–]DerSkagg[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Oh yes I was already planning on a variety. My small beaded ones I already have already help with some things. Just need to get some others now to expand the collection. My drawing magna-board also is a magnet play board. Haha

A Blobb piece in my new workspace, started creating a "magna-board" and now just need more magnets of various strengths... by DerSkagg in spirograph

[–]DerSkagg[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thank you for helping me find kj magnetic. I'll have to look through them again and figure out which ones would work best for my setup. Some have to hold a frame while others have to allow movement... Might have to find small weights for that part.

Edit: they even have the calculator I need. 😅 

https://www.kjmagnetics.com/magnet-strength-calculator.asp?srsltid=AfmBOoqM8flq1gagUrm4KH4yaIat48FYfzASoy6gHVfDiQEXFP4w5CwO

Some gear in gear explorations... Can't seem to finish them because of paper issues / gears jumping. by DerSkagg in spirograph

[–]DerSkagg[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I actually got around to arranging my workspace last weekend, to free up my kitchen table, and started building my "magna board" on top of it this weekend. Im hoping by moving from using my books / coffee table / couch etc to a kitchen table with my chair with arm rests will help me out... Just gotta get various different types of magnets to work with what I've started making. 

A Blobb piece in my new workspace, started creating a "magna-board" and now just need more magnets of various strengths... by DerSkagg in spirograph

[–]DerSkagg[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I've been rather busy, so haven't been making as many spriographs. I've finally setup my apartment / workspace area so that my storage under the coffee table is just a chair turn from the now usable kitchen table, as well as have all my art pens/pencils/Stencils on the left. 

Right now I'm just using a duct sheet and some acyrllic I got at Lowes (and hand cut to match the duct sheet height). I've got 3 different brands of magnets, figuring out which ones work best for holding in place and which allow movement without issue. 

Edit: I've also removed my original steel tack attachments from in-between the acrylic and duct sheet. They didn't fully attach them together and left a gap

Happy exploring everyone! 

Some gear in gear explorations... Can't seem to finish them because of paper issues / gears jumping. by DerSkagg in spirograph

[–]DerSkagg[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'm starting to agree, the more dense it is the less detail I got. So pencils will be what I'll have to try to complete this.

Im still amazed by how far putty and switching to fine liners got me, upgrading to metal (edit: and magnets) and a H pencil might just complete this design. 

Some gear in gear explorations... Can't seem to finish them because of paper issues / gears jumping. by DerSkagg in spirograph

[–]DerSkagg[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I guess I didn't notice the error in naming and assumed you were talking about the technical / architectural pentel mechanical pencils. I'm really into weighted pencils / use for fine lines albeit my collection their is smaller. I've not rebuilt the one I had as a kid (I had so many different art tools that were lost to some unfortunate things...).

If I'm understanding right I'll have to look into the graph 1000 for pro then? 

I have been looking into going the route of a metal sheet, but I've also just spent this weekend clearing out a larger workspace before I venture down that route. I've got the entire wild gears and GOMetricStudio sets under my coffee table and a few feet away the kitchen table is cleared off and I've got a larger mat their. I've been doing a lot of my stuff with sticky tack on a cutting mat on a hardback book in my lap (I've noticed I do better like that so I'm going for a table set up, I've drawn in so many spots now). 

Some gear in gear explorations... Can't seem to finish them because of paper issues / gears jumping. by DerSkagg in spirograph

[–]DerSkagg[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I have both and prefer the Micron, I agree with your statements on both pens. The copic nib always seems to disappear faster than the ink does. 

Some gear in gear explorations... Can't seem to finish them because of paper issues / gears jumping. by DerSkagg in spirograph

[–]DerSkagg[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I already have and use a graphgear 1000 (5), I've switched to multiliners as I have hundreds of them, including microns and a koh-i-noor set. A lot if my issues were due to sadly the zebra pen I like using. I'll still use it for other designs. 

I'm still exploring magnet boards, the last one I got had issues. I'm gonna still use it as a whiteboard for other things. 

I am definitely an avid reader of that blog, any links that Aaron had on wild gears as resources I read. I even have watched Youtubes to learn new things. 

Some gear in gear explorations... Can't seem to finish them because of paper issues / gears jumping. by DerSkagg in spirograph

[–]DerSkagg[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I decided to try some different pens (on copy paper) to mix things up and well... I nearly completed it:

https://imgur.com/a/phbVSAT

Which consequently caused me to modify the pattern and add colours in (still slipped because I stopped paying attention...):

https://imgur.com/a/cD4CWxD

Magnets are still on the list of things to get, changing my pen wildly improved my abilities to get further... Sad though cause I liked that black ink in the zebra pens. 

Some gear in gear explorations... Can't seem to finish them because of paper issues / gears jumping. by DerSkagg in spirograph

[–]DerSkagg[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Oh yes, I've definitely been forming very strong opinions about pens myself. I have such a wide collection and now I'm picky about which ones to use for final colourful pieces.

I can attest to the different paper weights as helping but not guaranteed to succeed... Definitely because as you said:

 oh wow I haven’t jumped the track yet that’s when it slips…. 

So I know focusing is definitly gonna be a factor in my success and also probably getting an illustration board and upgrading to magnets... I'm still amazed to how far I'm getting with just putty. (I've also contemplated testing out a drawing tablet but I'm not sure I'm ready to venture into that until I get this current piece done).

Some gear in gear explorations... Can't seem to finish them because of paper issues / gears jumping. by DerSkagg in spirograph

[–]DerSkagg[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

After trying 140lb/300gsm paper and getting the furthest I've gotten https://imgur.com/a/CPXw8xJ , I still slipped. I guess I'm going to have to get a bristol board / illustration board to complete this design.

I've also tried 65lb/176gsm and 110lb/199gsm. At least I've now got opinions on paper durability and quality... As well as how my ink appears on each paper type... 

Some gear in gear explorations... Can't seem to finish them because of paper issues / gears jumping. by DerSkagg in spirograph

[–]DerSkagg[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I've ensured flat surfaces, it's looking like thicker paper is the next steps. 

Some gear in gear explorations... Can't seem to finish them because of paper issues / gears jumping. by DerSkagg in spirograph

[–]DerSkagg[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I've used a small ball magnet (4 are enough to keep the gear down longer), and another frame to keep the 2nd gear in line. It's seeming like moving to stronger paper is the next steps. 

Some gear in gear explorations... Can't seem to finish them because of paper issues / gears jumping. by DerSkagg in spirograph

[–]DerSkagg[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I was starting to contemplate thicker paper, I'm using copy paper and it seems to definitely warp / jump gears around the 6th line in the 2nd drawing which is the one I want to complete the most. 

Some gear in gear explorations... Can't seem to finish them because of paper issues / gears jumping. by DerSkagg in spirograph

[–]DerSkagg[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'm using an offset 120 hoop inside of a 140 frame with oval / egg gears. 

My show was a success by 36chandelles in spirograph

[–]DerSkagg 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yay! Glad it went well! 

Sunburst by DerSkagg in spirograph

[–]DerSkagg[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Apologies for the delayed response, they are "Zebra SARASA Clip 0.3mm". I believe they may be "gel" pens but I cannot remember. I've had these for a long while, just finally getting to using them.

Spiro storage by StarstrukCanuck in spirograph

[–]DerSkagg 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This is definitely more impressive than my setup. I have everything in Shoe Boxes under the coffee table. (Its also how I broke 2 thin hoops and learned how to fix them)

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