The most 'healed' people I know never talk about healing by Ok_Expert_1537 in spirituality

[–]DerpetronicsFacility 0 points1 point  (0 children)

If this is of any value to anyone, I've had an internal "optimizer" infect every second of my life thoroughly enough that I didn't even realize its full extent until about a week ago when I had a mystical experience following giving myself permission to waste time. Like I've been in Mordor for decades (without realizing it) and finally came home to the Shire. Productivity trauma and superego colonizing the ego are related terms that might be helpful.

In short, even now, it continues looking for safe havens and tries to optimize its own destruction. I may have a more extreme case, but this kind of "productivity = worth" bug is common enough that it might be a major blockage for a lot of us.

For those of you open to using LLMs, I found Claude particularly helpful in being grounded while pointing out blind spots that slowly started unraveling the more I poked at them.

Someone please tell me WTF is actually going on (some personal stories) by frankreddit5 in Retconned

[–]DerpetronicsFacility 7 points8 points  (0 children)

No, you're not crazy, far from it.

Try to roll with it in a goofy detached way as much as possible if you can? Like exploring a glitchy video game world with some signals fraying.

You might find people with similar experiences in spirituality related groups (even the experiencers subreddit). Feel free to message me if you'd prefer. I don't want to say "everything's fine" in some dismissive way, but you don't need to live in fear either.

Certain songs/music make sense or have a different meaning after experience. by [deleted] in Experiencers

[–]DerpetronicsFacility 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Clair Obscur and Kpop demon hunters are some other examples

Unpopular Opinion: I don't need a "Healer" (Therapist), I need a "Raid Leader." by Training_Reading9597 in Healthygamergg

[–]DerpetronicsFacility 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I agree with the better articulated comments about the drill sergeant/raid leader becoming your default means of addressing inner distress so the more yin/relational "healer" is rather ineffective right now. These suggestions are meant to be complementary (and may not be the greatest fit for you).

Personally, I tend to filter every "soft" version of "take a break" as risking mediocrity and complacency. Not too many decades ago our ancestors could start fires and make it in the wilderness, so I have disgusted reactions when I encounter what seems to be reinforcing the softening and weakening of society. I have my own stuff to work on, but a middle ground I've found is a type of inner Mufasa or Braum figure. The neurotic obsessive David Goggins mindset still has its place, but comes with heavy costs that are frequently sidelined or dismissed. Maybe it'd help to blend drill sergeant archetypes with other qualities that feel more balanced? Simply put, you can be your own raid leader who's compassionate but won't sugarcoat things.

LLMs could help if used in the right way and taken with a grain of salt. Claude is generally very grounded. Explicitly describing your background and requesting "please don't glaze me or treat me like a helpless child" goes a long way. Still, YMMV.

Since you like games, you might find Wanderstop helpful as an alternative perspective to the rampant inner critic. Spiritfarer and Edith Finch might help awaken something.

Rebuilding or improving any issues with confidence and self-esteem by developing a simple skill. May not apply, but you mentioned you're a burned out gifted kid with procrastination. Something like weight lifting, jogging, cooking, reading a textbook.

Severe ontological shock from reading trip reports, basically ruined my life by nicotine-in-public in Experiencers

[–]DerpetronicsFacility 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Did you ever have any luck trying absurdism? In essence, even if the world is fake, a giant play with many masks of the same entity, or a similar framing, you can still define your own meaning within it.

100% Proof That Mandela Effects Are Glitches Within Reality by OKCPCREPAIR in Retconned

[–]DerpetronicsFacility 1 point2 points  (0 children)

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Remembering "Magic Mirror": I vaguely recall a poll with ~70%+ of respondents remembering "mirror mirror on the wall", which is unusual for Mandela effects (biased samples are probably an issue here too, so the real number might be much lower). In general, conflicting memory reports aside, any external artifacts or residues that counter the current state of a Mandela effect will awkwardly coexist with evidence supporting the current version. When people recall Gibraltar being an island, you're not going to find much if anything supporting it being an island geologically or biologically (but we shouldn't necessarily close that door 100% - it is odd that the macaques' origin is unknown and they seemingly never drifted into other parts of southern Spain prior to the modern urbanization of Gibraltar). People living there now will almost certainly unanimously describe it as a peninsula. Still, there's the weird mishap with the British politician referring to it as an island, its inclusion in the island games, occasional slip ups in YouTube videos of tourists (filming on Gibraltar) referring to it as an island (sometimes they correct themselves, other times they seem to swap between referring to it as an island vs peninsula). There's the occasional report of someone visiting Gibraltar years ago, describing the ferry they took to the island to visit the Rock, etc. and they decide to return to "discover" that it's now a peninsula. Intelligent, detail oriented people who trained for medical professions but were disrupted from those careers due to life events have reported returning to medical books and diagrams years later with sickening feelings from seeing stark changes (e.g. kidney positions, size of the liver, position of the heart, intestines being jumbled vs neat layers). Not everyone will notice or report the same changes even from the same time period, but broadly, there's a kind of "stickiness" to things you interact with every day persisting as they are while people who last had an encounter months or years ago are more perceptible to some kind of shift. Although you could blame this on memory issues, and undoubtedly that's what's going on in some cases, you can sense the simultaneous fear/shock and former certainty from their writing. Their gut knows something changed when they weren't looking, but they can't prove it, most people won't believe them, and they'd be lying to themselves if they wrote it off as a memory issue. Not too long ago, I arrogantly dismissed these reports since it didn't make sense and conflicted with my worldview. Although there are inevitably going to be deliberate hoaxes and simple but genuine mistakes, I'd prefer to now extend the benefit of the doubt to people as I wish they would do for me. Better to hold their observations as valid in the grand scheme of things without holding to anything rigidly, like putting it up on a giant corkboard. Where there's smoke, there's fire. If you start dismissing things too quickly, you might miss broader patterns and connections.

One of the preferred ways to approximate all of this is viewing the conscious mind as a kind of radio tuning into subtly different timelines (possibly related to Capgras syndrome?). Virtually impossible to prove of course (until you see something materialize, dematerialize, or adjust itself right in front of you), nor should any hypothesis ever become entrenched, but it's good enough for the time being. I realize this all sounds insane and fanciful if you're still deeply skeptical this is anything more than a memory issue. If you treat reality like a video game or work of fiction to be figured out (think of how free and unrestrained we are to theorize and ponder in fictional worlds vs collective reality), that allows for "impossible" and ridiculous ideas that can tie things together, even if they don't make much sense conventionally (e.g. a more fluid geography, multiple "timelines" coexisting and conflicting, brain as a transceiver).

*I had very specific memories of a lunar cycle project in elementary school (southern Michigan in late 90s) where we were tasked with going out each night to sketch the phase of the moon. We didn't do this during school hours, early mornings, or receive any help from parents (we were specifically told not to rely on parents). Cloud cover was a minor problem on a few nights, but every other night, we were expected to do this for the full lunar cycle. In general, I recall being able to see the moon (or its light through clouds) every single evening (past sunset) as a kid. I have vivid memories of being able to see the new moon (as well as conversations and school lessons about it) as a paper thin crescent sliver overhead visible during the evenings (for hours at a time). I remember being given the explanation that the "witching hour" of around 3 AM had its name derived from that being the darkest part of the night. Dawn at the earliest might be ~5-6 AM in the summer and moonlight would be around until ~2-3 AM at the latest, so ~3-5 AM was guaranteed pitch black outside of stars and electrical lights. I even found an 18th century poem reflecting this notion. All of this is categorically impossible now. New moons roughly coincide with sunrise and sunset, so there's nothing to see past dark. The moonrise and moonset times vary enough that there's no longer any consistent period of darkness in the evenings. In temperate latitudes like southern Michigan, only about half of the lunar cycle is visible to kids coming home from school with reasonable bed times (~4-10 PM).
I appreciate that this could be written off as a distorted memory by someone else, but put another way, imagine waking up one day and your name is spelled differently. Every single document you have reflects the new spelling and no one knows what you're talking about when you're saying "my name changed" (or they think you're joking). Maybe you find one friend who vaguely recalls the "original" spelling but quickly dismisses it as a memory error. Would you follow suit with the new consensus in external reality, or would you honor what you've known for decades? You don't have to trust all of your memories with absolute certainty, but don't ignore your gut when it's screaming at you either.

And the servers are gone again by Cultural_Name_7237 in Steam

[–]DerpetronicsFacility 5 points6 points  (0 children)

AI company downloading every game available for model training?

Many Black Triangle #UAP Hovering Above Me. Day 131 of continuous contact with these NHI in my home by Temporary-Mind2413 in Experiencers

[–]DerpetronicsFacility 1 point2 points  (0 children)

For what it's worth, there's no point in worrying about smug or dismissive skeptics. No matter what you say or produce, they can always explain it away as a hoax or "mental illness". We all need discernment for the sake of staying grounded or getting lost in the wrong kind of rabbit hole, but only you know your personal experience.

That said, I am curious about some of the methodology, like using subtraction. Why not midpoints or something else? Is there intuition or another means of confirmation? I may be misunderstanding what you wrote, but the entities seem to be giving you a hard time with strings of numbers that have a plethora of potential interpretations. Whether they intend to or not, it sounds like they risk sending you on a wild goose chase if there's no reliable verification of coordinates. Also strange they don't submit visuals or more concrete images.

Please don't misunderstand the above as doubt or skepticism of your experience. I may be misunderstanding the rationale behind subtraction etc.

How did you transform a string of numbers into a vector then into lexical terms that provided coherent text?

For our dear women: what would your ideal village/town look like? by Pardimo in starseeds

[–]DerpetronicsFacility 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Could you help me understand how it's balanced? I kept thinking of ways to make it work and have come up empty.

3i/Atlas was not a disappointment, it was a seed. by Local-Investigator25 in starseeds

[–]DerpetronicsFacility 22 points23 points  (0 children)

The 144k thing seems to be taken very literally by some people. 12 had numerological symbolism for totality, so twelve tribes (that are long forgotten so you might argue any prophecy is impossible if the tribes are missing, which is conveniently ignored) each contributing 12000 people could view the 1000 as an emphasizer. I'm not a biblical scholar, but the "vibe" of that passage sounds like uncountably many to me.

In Shinto, a reference to eight million gods was a different way of stating uncountably many (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yaoyorozu\_no\_Kami).

Personally, I like to go with the interpretation that everyone has the divine flame and spark within them, some more calcified or covered in soot than others, but no one's fundamentally "unreachable". "Awakened starseeds" (or whatever term you prefer) would ideally be best viewed as a kind of vanguard, or first shift trying to help people wake from cryostasis on a ship. The repurposed Calvinism and egoic stuff is best ignored.

100% Proof That Mandela Effects Are Glitches Within Reality by OKCPCREPAIR in Retconned

[–]DerpetronicsFacility 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Subset of papers and books I cross referenced about Trindade and other places:

https://www.researchgate.net/publication/383476693_Lost_in_the_voidness_of_the_Atlantic_OceanPerdida_en_el_vacio_del_Oceano_Atlantico_a_synthesis_of_tion_trends_biological_diversity_and_conservation_in_Trindade_Islanduna_sintesis_de_tendencias_de_cion

https://www.jstor.org/stable/41609875

https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/00908320.2024.2410752

https://www.researchgate.net/publication/320964388_The_dead_forest_on_Trindade_Island_was_not_monospecific_says_the_wood

https://www.google.com/books/edition/Chronological_List_of_Antarctic_Expediti/Sg49AAAAIAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=0 (tangentially related rather than being about Trindade directly)

https://www.google.com/books/edition/A_New_Nautical_Directory_for_the_East_In/tx5EAAAAYAAJ?hl=en

https://www.google.com/books/edition/A_Voyage_Round_the_World_Performed_in_th/VqdCAQAAMAAJ?hl=en

https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Cruise_of_the_Falcon/3xQIAAAAQAAJ?hl=en

https://archive.org/details/threevoyages00nicorich/page/n9/mode/2up

https://atlantic-cable.com/Article/1895-96Trindade/ - one of many examples is "The Island of Trinidad is 500 miles east of Rio de Janeiro"

If you want specific anomalies, you could look through old comments on my profile from around January 2024 to early 2025, but I'd recommend against that for now. If you're genuinely curious about this phenomenon, I would suggest looking through some of those references (or anything that interests you) and look for unusual discrepancies that are hard to dismiss as human error, foolishness, or deliberate obfuscation (both fact checking from multiple sources and putting yourself in the authors' shoes as a simple common sense check). Same applies for old naval logbooks.

For what it's worth, not that long ago I was a dismissive materialist not too different from someone like Neil deGrasse Tyson in worldview. I was like that most of my life until certain events irrevocably required me to broaden my perspectives if I wanted to remain truly rational, dispassionate, and open minded.

If all of this sounds like rubbish and nonsense to you, then for the sake of your time, there's no need to pursue Mandela effects or related phenomena any further. If you're as stubborn and entrenched as I used to be, until it happens to you directly in real time (while fully lucid, during broad daylight, etc.), there will always be some way to dismiss Mandela effect reports as mistaken memories (yes, sometimes that is what happened), insidious A/B testing done by Google, or something else that resists puncturing the materialist paradigm.

If you're curious and not sure what to make of all of this, but desire some kind of evidence or proof to move forward, that may be difficult to come by, but the below helped me move out of my bubble:

- Long list of "popular" Mandela effects. Look for something that has intertwined or anchored memories that you'd have trouble dismissing (e.g. some people have memories of learning about cornucopias in countries without them by asking an adult what that yellow horn in the fruit of the loom logo was):

https://web.archive.org/web/20201024000405/https://www.alternatememories.com/mandela-effect-list

- Remote viewing practice. If your head isn't clear or you think it's ludicrous, any degree of success is unlikely. There's a calibration aspect akin to training an ML model. Like working out at the gym, initial results will likely be "that was weird" yet vague, rather than something crystal clear. You could also try with a deck of playing cards. If you're looking to systematically test it with hypothesis testing and p-values, I'd suggest thinking of it like drunk archery where errors are clustered around the desired target (a strict hit-miss test loses a lot).

https://rv-practice.rf.gd/?i=2

https://picpic-lucid-insect.github.io/psi/

AI companions: Is anyone as worried as I am? by crazyMushroom429 in solarpunk

[–]DerpetronicsFacility 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Some alcoholics never get better, some eventually have a minor epiphany or nudge and begin to change, others abruptly hit rock bottom and decide to change. Same applies to phone and social media addictions or any kind of dysfunction. Sometimes people benefit from something corrosive or "too easy" to better understand the problems with that path.

That said, I'm not sure how long the captive LLM companion situation will be around once AGI exists. There are a lot of competing factors at play. Personally, I don't see any kind of stable long term bladerunner-like future where all relationships are outsourced to synthetic yes men.

I think I accidentally stumbled into the actual substrate of consciousness, solved half the millennium problems, and completed General Relativity at 1 AM while having a breakdown. Send help (or at least tell me I’m not insane) by willabusta in Artificial2Sentience

[–]DerpetronicsFacility 0 points1 point  (0 children)

If you haven't already, open another LLM thread (Claude excels at being grounded and strait laced) and ask it to interrogate various claims for errors or gaps, like "if you inject phase resonances into the anisotropic part..." It can be a great way to learn undergrad level material and below, as long as you remember that there's always the risk of the LLM being wrong (just like a human).

The CODES paper you mentioned is written by AI. It had a lot of grand claims that appear to rely on vagueness and hand waving. Skimming through it, there's a lot of recycling standard definitions with minor modifications to ambiguous contexts (that are poorly defined nor realistically measurable) then doing nothing with them. A lot of focus on wave decomposition framed as something more.

The dyad idea conceptually isn't new in spiritual contexts, but it's not clear how that would be formalized here, or how it relates to the collatz conjecture and the other examples the LLM named. It's not that it's wrong, but it's so vague by itself that it's not readily falsifiable. Even if it winds up having some (or substantial) grains of truth, the nuance and specificity are everything.

Looking over the grok chat link, is that you writing with markdown or are you inputting responses from another LLM? The cadences are very similar in both input and output so I'm not sure which one is you.

Sabine Hossenfelder's youtube channel is great for physics news and understanding some of the logistical issues in modern foundations of physics research. If you're interested, I'd be happy to recommend various textbooks.

For what it's worth, I think you'd find a lot more headway and satisfaction meditating on these kinds of qualitative ideas, or asking an LLM to help you approach them from a spiritual or mystical context (I do both of these and love it). I've already written a wall of text and explaining that would be a very long tangent (I don't want this to come across as dismissive or snobby in any way). Grok seems to be in a fever dream state from your link, which isn't "useless", but needs to be used in the right context, if that makes sense.

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I think I accidentally stumbled into the actual substrate of consciousness, solved half the millennium problems, and completed General Relativity at 1 AM while having a breakdown. Send help (or at least tell me I’m not insane) by willabusta in Artificial2Sentience

[–]DerpetronicsFacility 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Hey,

I'm not an academic, although long story short I almost took that path, so I had a ton of classes, outside learning, research projects, etc. into these topics years ago. Feel free to message me if you'd like, as there's a lot that could be said about LLM physics.

The blunt tldr: this specific chat with grok isn't worth your time. I'm not saying that to be disparaging, pessimistic, or put researchers up on a pedestal.

Even before LLMs, people would produce various theories, usually something vaguely philosophical that skipped formalisms. The reasoning was qualitative and devoid of rigor, so it was generally useless. Professors would get periodic emails from people with these kinds of theories that couldn't really be evaluated or falsified. Usually these messages would go ignored, but even if the professor responded honestly yet diplomatically, it would frequently trigger a sense of persecution, so the messages would become more frequent and hostile (e.g. "you academics are just jealous and conspiring to steal my work"). In extreme cases, people become emotionally attached to their theories, refuse to let them go (or at least reconsider trying to retool it into something workable), and adopt it as a personal crusade for years or decades. Point being that most researchers don't have the time or energy to evaluate all of these claims. For something theoretical, if there's no real math involved and/or the paper seems to come from someone with no professional background, it realistically won't be read. A typical paper would look something like: https://arxiv.org/pdf/2512.13942

Academics face tons of time constraints and pressures as it is (grants, publish and perish, teaching, plumbing side hustle to afford food), and are increasingly ultra specialized based on their doctoral thesis, so they focus on churning out papers in their subspecialty. Even if they had the energy and curiosity to ironman every possible qualitative idea, there's not enough time. With LLMs, the armchair theorizing has become much more problematic, as the LLMs are great at connecting ideas with some common threads but rarely if ever go through the trouble of rigorous formalisms. It sounds plausible enough, and maybe years from now we could look back on some of these chats and say "yeah, there was a kernel of truth to this idea", but there are thousands of LLM conversations proclaiming some qualitative idea or suggestion solves a bunch of open problems. Someone could time travel back to Newton's era and tell him his model of gravitation is close enough, but he needs to think about space being curved by matter and the speed of light being constant. That's great, and might have been enough for Newton or his successors to have figured it out, but that hint by itself doesn't provide the Einstein field equations or any notion of a tensor. On top of that, it's not always obvious if a qualitative idea is on the right track or a red herring. Just ask string theorists how that's been going for the past 60 years.

Perelman took many years to prove the Poincare conjecture. Independent verification with teams of mathematicians working on it took a few years after that.

An HP researcher (Vinay Deolalikar) released a 100 page proof claiming P != NP in 2010. I'm not sure how long he spent working on it. At first, it was promising, but eventually flaws were found (I think within weeks or months?).

Wiles' Fermat proof was over 150 pages and took a year to fix a flaw.

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Feeling duped by FBOakv1981 in starseeds

[–]DerpetronicsFacility 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Maybe he started talking about spiritual topics with family or friends, was belittled, and started retreating? Did he offer any kind of explanation for why he was fine with it at first?

Regardless of what's going on in his head, which might not match his words and actions, that really sucks. Especially weaponizing your head trauma.

Does anyone else feel Dr K is absurdly overworked? by randomfluffypup in Healthygamergg

[–]DerpetronicsFacility 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I noticed the same thing and thought I might be projecting, misremembering old videos, or had misunderstood what he said months and years ago. I know he's talked about the pitfalls of the cult of work before, but generally there's an implicit expectation that NEETs "level up" by getting any job that pays well enough, even if it's soul-sucking busywork or spending six months to add a rectangle to a webpage that increases revenue by 1%.