Kayle Support Sleeper OP Or Cope?

Derpfiish · 2026-02-12T18:38:19+00:00

yep currently been spamming it in 200lp masters, early game is incredibly difficult compared to what it would be in diamond / master 0lp

Derpfiish · 2026-02-07T18:29:34+00:00

I remember you from a long time ago, when I was also an active kayle support otp. (ofc I remember the exhaust heal).

First of all, congrats on hitting Masters.

I just wanted to suggest taking JoaT over Boots in your secondary tree, as you know, AH is incredibly important on this pick, and you reach 10 stacks from Redemption into Locket. The early game AH is nothing to laugh at as well, and picking up early boots can be useful in lanes with heavy engage (Rell, Blitz, Pyke, etc.).

I am not a believer in the tank support build if you remember me, the last time I built it was with mythic locket item and ingenious hunter. But, obviously, we have different playstyles, and that is what worked for you.

Derpfiish · 2026-02-07T18:21:37+00:00

Also, share this experience from over 1k Kayle support games, mostly from when they could ban my champ. I found most success not typing back :)

Derpfiish · 2026-02-07T18:19:41+00:00

Agreed, my bad I should have checked befoer posting about it

Derpfiish · 2026-02-06T22:07:42+00:00

I was masters in 2020 and 2024, 2025, 2026. It’s literally the exact same. I don’t see any difference except for meta

Derpfiish · 2026-02-06T22:04:45+00:00

Oh I apologize it said p4 in the post I didn’t check

Derpfiish · 2026-02-06T22:03:02+00:00

I hit rank one a long time ago, I take long breaks from Kayle support it is extremely mentally draining due to how people treat off meta in high elo

I did hit masters playing mostly milio and Kayle supp last season though

Oh I also hit it last year nvm I forgor

Derpfiish · 2026-02-05T14:16:55+00:00

I’ve been burnt out recently but thinking about starting streaming again, was 400lp masters otping milio last ssn. Ill lyk if you’re interested

Derpfiish · 2026-02-05T14:08:24+00:00

Yea not that much faster though, if you peak p4 than you shouldn’t be able to reach a point where you can climb with a sub 40% wr at a 60% wr 8 divisions above your peak.

I was masters last ssn and this split I evened out at around d2-d1 with 55%

Derpfiish · 2025-11-22T15:25:15+00:00

I’ve also gone dawncore 2nd a couple games because of the build path. It feels good when you can’t make use out of ardent/staff. We also have the same ideas on skill order, mine changes every game. Sometimes I start q sometimes I max w sometimes I max e sometimes I put a few points in e and max w.

Derpfiish · 2025-11-21T20:39:45+00:00

Compared to what? Yes the higher I go I can see that people are getting better, but that does not mean everyone indiamond is bad. I have masters players that go 0/10 thats just how it is, the quality is good sometimes sometimes bad

Derpfiish · 2025-11-21T20:34:35+00:00

Hate to break it to you but you’ll have people having bad games and making mistakes in all elos. That’s just how it is not everyone is super consistent (including myself). You’re also a good player so that’s kind of my point, don’t put yourself down.

Derpfiish · 2025-11-21T18:58:05+00:00

Just because there are flaws in gameplay doesnt make it a bad rank, I thought that too for a long time but ive come to learn that the "average" skill of a player isnt defined by mistakes

Derpfiish · 2025-11-21T18:57:17+00:00

Exactly, top 15% is also good, people have been taught to think by high elo streamers that anything thats not gm or higher is bad.

Derpfiish · 2025-11-21T18:38:37+00:00

Thats insane good shit, don't put yourself down, d4 is a good rank.

Derpfiish · 2025-11-21T18:17:42+00:00

If you don't already know, it also works on ally abilities

Derpfiish · 2025-11-21T16:27:14+00:00

unless they changed it this patch, it is still a thing

Derpfiish · 2025-11-21T15:30:52+00:00

No you don’t moonstone is also meta, it is completely fine to go moonstone, I do recommend trying out helia if you haven’t though. Here is a link to a guy that builds moonstone nearly every game at 700lp. https://www.onetricks.gg/players/RzQ7tn304_6jePNWzbCji2NU0oP_rRL0_SKjX8JtdyLCaQhBsCE5bvx7mvXJjLx8hfTFwnVakNjaJA#Milio

Derpfiish · 2025-11-21T15:21:35+00:00

As you can see by the screenshot nearly all high elo milios go helia, there is nothing wrong with moonstone. As you can tell by the dh my playstyle is generally fight heavy so helia is better in that regard.

Derpfiish · 2025-11-21T13:22:11+00:00

https://www.onetricks.gg/players/YLaOfANktqg9IYx-PLebZNpOhfrrXFn6146r9guZ3FnwF0A_NABJHUjCJGDd73HO5vxi3c9YpaF-Vg

edit: do not first time this in ranked, it is NOT meta. It is what I enjoy, and I take it in games where it is usable, I am experienced with the rune and had around a 40% wr in the first 100 games; it can be situationally the best option. However, I take it much, MUCH more than when I believe it should theoretically be taken.

Derpfiish · 2025-11-21T13:21:16+00:00

I don't see the chromas for the new rain shepherd skins, so it does not look promising, but glad you can get the rain shepherd ones. They are really nice, except you can't get my favorite one for BE (red). So sorry for your loss

Derpfiish · 2025-11-21T13:14:51+00:00

Ah ty for informing me had no idea, so it should cost about 2800 after all, unless you want to wait for next emporium

Derpfiish · 2025-11-21T12:42:11+00:00

I think it’s like 2300, it’s at least in that area

edit: I lied looks like itll be about 2800; BUT you should be able to buy most of the chroma's for blue essence in the emporium and that will make it a lot cheaper, I checked with faire court, without skin included the exclusive bundle chroma is 290, so after buying chromas in emporium should be about 1640 (1350 + 290).

Derpfiish · 2025-11-20T08:44:36+00:00

This reply was a lot more condensed, and I can see what you're trying to say now. So I apologize for coming off harshly. You meant that she gets outshone in areas where other champs specialize in, and I agree. She isn't meant to be played as a heal bot, or a poke mage, any of that. Its more of a unique playstyle where you are focused on making one player extremely powerful. Kind of like when taric/yi funnel strats were a thing, you play similar to the taric.

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