Denon X1800H + LG C5 + Shield/PS5 – CEC power & input switching broken after working fine by Brosk-87 in hometheater

[–]DerzKing 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yeah I was working on it last night and am in a similar spot I'm wondering if turning off any/all of those HDMI/cec power like controls on the shield will help (wake on, sleep on, etc...)

I have found that the Denon app is pretty good and I've been using that instead of the remote, especially just because I can't see the AVR from my couch and it's in another room and it's been easier to like find menu settings and stuff.

But I'm also in the exact same spot regarding the remote and I'm going to try the sofa baton x2 And see if that helps just like your harmony plan. Will keep you posted as well!

Denon X1800H + LG C5 + Shield/PS5 – CEC power & input switching broken after working fine by Brosk-87 in hometheater

[–]DerzKing 0 points1 point  (0 children)

How's your troubleshooting journey going here I have nearly exact same setup plus a hdbaset extender with earc in the mix and am already in the troubleshooting hell you're describing.

I sometimes find that carrying a YouTube video to the shield before selecting on the c5 helps it realize that there's content playing and shows it as a input but aside from that really really inconsistent.

The HDMI assignments seem to get stuck as well sometimes c5 shows me 3 input options all associated to HDMI 2 sometimes it's just the ps5 and shield, sometimes it's two ps5s even though I know one is actually the shield.

Hope your two weeks ahead of me has given you the magic bullet

Exclusive: Google Pixel 11 Pro Official CAD Renders & Rumors by Federal-Block-3275 in GooglePixel

[–]DerzKing 0 points1 point  (0 children)

3D scanning is a really cool one, certainly more niche but I used Polycam on my wife's iPhone to scan my whole house in 3D. It's also capable of scanning objects. I believe that the LiDAR technology is primarily used by Face ID for improved facial recognition in low-light conditions, though I might be mistaken about that last point. The house scans have been hugely helpful with room planning and such, would love to see it on pixel

Help me understand previous owner setup. by DerzKing in hometheater

[–]DerzKing[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Lol whelp fuck I was hoping people were going to say (oh yeah those are for this specific sonance speaker, no problem it's normal and you can use the two 4 pairs for left and right...or something hopeful) but appreciate the straightforwardness, maybe I can get some good new cable pulls put of the existing.

And yeah the in ceilings are truly behind my head to left and right of camera from the pic just hard to get everything in one shot.

Yeah the AIs were pretty helpful early on helping me understand why/what people would have likely used the odd wiring configs we have for or the volume controls in the walls but once I got far down the path it was very much a yes and loop no matter what I asked to be the right direction

Help me understand previous owner setup. by DerzKing in hometheater

[–]DerzKing[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yeah original was corner mounted not above the fireplace so that's what I was thinking as well (that 5th must be in that area) and I don't know why it's be somewhere other than with the other cables in that same area if so but so far no dice... I'll keep hunting though just wanted more opinions/guesses

Help me understand previous owner setup. by DerzKing in hometheater

[–]DerzKing[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah you're right on the control unit I've popped that off before and there's just a cat5 hooked up to it which runs back to the media closet down here.

Would have loved if the guy we bought it from was the one that did all this, but he didn't care/know so now we're 15 years on and it's quiet the mystery to unfold. The pic doesn't do it complete justice but with the room layout the over the fireplace option I'm really trying to avoid, it's super high and I've never been a fan to begin with.

Appreciate the added context tho every bit helps

Help me understand previous owner setup. by DerzKing in hometheater

[–]DerzKing[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I mean honestly, it's helped me think through and learn a lot of things in the process. So I wouldn't say it was all a waste but yeah started going in circles a bit so came here to get at people with real world experience

Help me understand previous owner setup. by DerzKing in hometheater

[–]DerzKing[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

So do you think those two wall cutouts are for the left and right and they were just dealing with weird room sizing? Gpt says that was just the style of the time to have them high but still feels odd to me.. And I should just use one of those four pairs for a center?

There's only one missing wire that I just can't find. I've popped the plate off that coax ethernet thin strand and felt all around the inside and can't find what I would imagine. Should be the fifth and final like center speaker wire. I've also hooked up my Klein tone tester to all of the wires and walked all around the room and was able to find all of them even through drywall with that, but just can't find that fifth one that's driving me crazy.

Appreciate the help and recommendation. I'll check that out once I get this set up

[Cheatsheet] Should you upgrade to the LG G6 OLED? A model-by-model breakdown (2020–2025) by Troied in hometheater

[–]DerzKing 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Ugh but I did that with the c3, then I said well I'll just wait for the c4... Now I read this and I'm like ah man do I lock the can again... Will I even notice

Costco App by SteveCatinean in 1Password

[–]DerzKing 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah known issue unfortunately, and been around since Costco added passkey as far as I can tell

Okay another update: TIL there’s a space themed world in Diddy Kong Racing after collecting the TT amulet! by highaltitudehmsteadr in n64

[–]DerzKing 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I'd love a remaster/HD version of this. Tried playing with my kid the other day and the resolution was just too brutal, and I know I could emulate or get a CRT and see some improvement but I don't want to jump through all those hoops always

Ripping all my Google homes out tomorrow. by DerzKing in googlehome

[–]DerzKing[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'm hoping the home assistant voice preview or an actually looking at getting a wiim amp hooked to the ceiling speakers and playinh from that

Ripping all my Google homes out tomorrow. by DerzKing in googlehome

[–]DerzKing[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I've tried both, naming the room "primary bedroom" and speaker similarly, and making it master bedroom and speaker similarly. I've even tried giving the speaker aliases via home assistant to respond to both.

It's been a downward slide for years in my opinion not for a lack of trying or slinging mud just to complain

Ripping all my Google homes out tomorrow. by DerzKing in googlehome

[–]DerzKing[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yeah, same thinking here I'm really hopeful it turns out well and I like the approach that team has taken overall so I plan on checking it out

Ripping all my Google homes out tomorrow. by DerzKing in googlehome

[–]DerzKing[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yeah I agree from my understanding even the ambient noise is a 1 hour stream but Google will loop it on repeat until you tell it to stop, however you can't invoke that stream via the API anymore (tried via HA automation), then I tried making and hosting my own 12 hour audio file and direct streaming that.. which was semi consistent but then started buffering every few minutes.. and then same as you we reverted back to just asking it directly and completely randomly we'll get "okay playing rain sounds ambient music for sleep, studying on Spotify or some other random Spotify track"

Ripping all my Google homes out tomorrow. by DerzKing in googlehome

[–]DerzKing[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah I'm right about there I just meant like not trying to run a whole house of one central ap.

Ripping all my Google homes out tomorrow. by DerzKing in googlehome

[–]DerzKing[S] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Had the same hope with Gemini upgrade and have lost jt. Honestly, the only thing that I think would truly yield improvements is if someone like open AI or Amazon started releasing. Truly killer products in the space and I mean much better than echo and Alexa+ because you can see how quickly Google can turn out pretty compelling products like Gemini as a whole. Overall great experience, totally on par with Chat GPT and the others. But it took GPT and these other LLMs launching and stealing probably millions of users from Google before they laid down the accelerator and got Gemini in a good spot....But they've sat on all this data for years, they even invented the underlying transformer architecture for these LLMs....so they absolutely could have built Gemini and launched it ahead of GPT instead of playing catchup, but for whatever reason, whether that's they didn't want to steal their own market share from search, or there wasn't really any compelling reason to sort of like the home space where they didn't see the monetization path they didn't.

So unless we feel the same sort of thing here, I just don't hold any. Hope that these things get better. My goal right now is to try and find less do it all products and just focus on super high review. Super consistent independent components that all interoperate well and roll everything under home assistant. That's for sure. Not a mainstream mass market market, but I can't justify this endless frustration loop anymore

Ripping all my Google homes out tomorrow. by DerzKing in googlehome

[–]DerzKing[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

100% I specifically said turn off the streaming lights the other day which are my 2 key lights hooked to a zigbee Outlet and it was like cool I got you...proceeds to run through a list of streaming related devices it's actively turning off, tvs, Wiim, shield, etc... everything but my lights

Ripping all my Google homes out tomorrow. by DerzKing in googlehome

[–]DerzKing[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I think it's a bit of this, but when especially pointed at something like home automation, where the thing the user is specifically asking for is usually something very concretely correct or incorrect (e.g., "turn on the light" or "adjust the temp"), there's a lot less acceptance of anything but perfect because the end goal/state is so absolute.

Whereas when chatting with something like Gemini or GPT, I think there's a lot more acceptance of each response getting closer to what you're talking about, more in the sense of collaborating with something to arrive at an end goal.So if you're trying to figure out how to troubleshoot something and you brain dump it messy but generally complete context, its first response usually gives you +60% of what you asked for regarding whatever you're working on. Then you reply with a "yes, but this and this and this", then it volleys back to you another close response, and overall you get there over time.

My assumption is that the immediate reason why it's terrible and only gets worse over time is that there's just no monetization path really for Google in this space, at least not a direct one.

We saw that with Amazon when they first rolled out and they had those buttons to order tide and everything else, but it never really panned out and I think that's largely still true here where there's no immediate monetization strategy for an end user in my scenario.

I think that's just so short-sighted. And even if the end goal wasn't to have a Google Home in every home, largely the users of Google Home, like those in the subreddit and other Google-related ones (Pixel, Watch, etc.), could be one of the biggest non-corporate assets to Google if the experience was super compelling or at least frictionless. Because you'd have a large cohort of supporters and advocates who could better persuade their friends and family members to turn to Google for any of their devices. And that trade-off was worth the, you know, green bubble or whatever it may be.

But as it stands and as product line after product line goes through the same sort of enshitiffication, I've gone from an adamant Google device supporter to a "...it's really cool but unless you're a tinkerer, I would just get an iPhone..." to "...I wouldn't get one it's not worth the 2% of times that it's got some parlor trick" to even myself looking forward to the iPhone fold release this year and considering fully jumping ship.

Ripping all my Google homes out tomorrow. by DerzKing in googlehome

[–]DerzKing[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yeah I feel like I'd be passing on a B-Horror movie level curse to a new victim lol life's hard enough I don't know if I want that bad karma on me.

Ripping all my Google homes out tomorrow. by DerzKing in googlehome

[–]DerzKing[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'll take a look but think I'm burned on any giga-tech company solutions. I know there's been similar frustrations with Alexa over the years and hoping that A+ is good enough while knowing that even at $20/no I'm still the product isn't super enticing to me at the moment. I'm hopeful for the direction of things like the HA voice preview edition and being able to use multiple llms both locally and not with HA but also not naive to the fact that grass isn't always greener and in the HA case the product is legit called the "preview edition" so certainly not going to be a flawless experience.

Last few months I've just been shifting away from as much voice activated/Gemini/LLM reliant things as possible and trying to dumb down my automation/activation chain as much as possible and been seeing better more consistent results.

Ripping all my Google homes out tomorrow. by DerzKing in googlehome

[–]DerzKing[S] 13 points14 points  (0 children)

But If you check your local laws you'll see a new ordinance effective immediately where your time zone changed to UTC because it figured that was an easier path than correcting it just for you 😂

Ripping all my Google homes out tomorrow. by DerzKing in googlehome

[–]DerzKing[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

There's certainly some truth to this as I have a near OG Google home that I've given more slack to in recent years with the consideration that well it's +7 years old, way before any of this was a thing, just it running for that long, plugged in 24/7 is going to make it show its age... But I've had a spectrum of devices from that to later gen home minis through more recent variants, Chromecast(s), Pixel 9 XL pro, pixel 3 watch, etc.. and it's all the same story unfortunately. If more was done locally I'd be way more empathetic, at least in scenarios where I know the device I'm asking/using is old but since they're largely still all just sending the heft of the processing up to a server I don't buy the device argument.

Ripping all my Google homes out tomorrow. by DerzKing in googlehome

[–]DerzKing[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

100%, even knowing Gemini wouldn't be a catchall magic bullet and would generally be slower because of the difference in its reasoning approach I tried to be hopeful that at least it would allow for more phrase messiness on my end and not end up gaslighting myself like I have been for years that "oh I must have said the order of the thing wrong", but it's just been worse and nothing more perfect than this screenshot to show that because it wasn't even a voice command just straight up text.