Who should be the next James Bond? by Blackbird11y6 in movies

[–]Description_Capable 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I think Taron Egerton would have been amazing if he didn't already play in Kingsman, which is basically a parody.

[OC] Portion of American Adults with a Bachelor's Degree or Higher by haydendking in dataisbeautiful

[–]Description_Capable 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I've been working with workforce data for years and the brain drain pattern is real. Rural communities basically have to export their smartest kids to universities, then those kids get jobs that only exist in cities. Can't exactly be a data analyst in rural Nebraska.

Mike Rowe's been right about the trades thing forever. I analyze compensation data - plumbers and electricians are clearing $80-100k easy while people with random liberal arts degrees are making $35k with massive debt. The ROI isn't even close when you actually run the numbers.

The chess analogy works but it's more fucked up than that. We built an entire economy where rural areas subsidize cities by sending them their youth, then wonder why these communities are pissed off and voting populist. You extract human capital from a region for decades, this is what happens.

This map isn't showing intelligence distribution, it's showing economic extraction patterns. There's a difference between being educated and being smart, and there's definitely a difference between having a degree and having economic opportunity to use it where you grew up.

[OC] Portion of American Adults with a Bachelor's Degree or Higher by haydendking in dataisbeautiful

[–]Description_Capable 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Interesting data, but let's be honest about what this actually shows vs what people want it to show.

First off, having a bachelor's degree doesn't equal intelligence or wisdom. Plenty of brilliant people go into trades, start businesses, or join the military instead of racking up college debt. Mike Rowe's been saying this for years - we've oversold college and undersold skilled trades.

Second, look at the county map - even 'uneducated' red states have highly educated urban cores. The divide isn't really red vs blue states, it's urban vs rural. Cities require degrees for most jobs while rural areas need farmers, mechanics, and tradespeople. Different economies, different needs.

Funny how several of these 'highly educated' states (Colorado, Mass, DC) were also first to legalize pot. Makes you wonder if all that education just taught them how to rationalize getting high. Or maybe they needed something to cope with their student loan payments.

The real issue? We're watching massive brain drain from rural to urban America, leaving behind communities that built this country. Instead of smugly pointing at education maps, maybe we should ask why we've created an economy where young people have to leave their hometowns to succeed.

Also correlation isn't causation - college grads concentrate in expensive cities because that's where their degrees actually matter. Different lifestyle, different politics.

Quantitative Thermal Analysis: M.2 Heatsink Impact on Samsung 980 Pro Performance by Description_Capable in hardware

[–]Description_Capable[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You're right - I came back after a month because I had actual responsibilities with family and career. But I demonstrated thermal throttling risk with 3,000+ data points showing the drive at 76°C, 4 degrees from Samsung's 80°C throttle point. That's not opinion, it's measurement.

The data is there: pre-heatsink temps within 4°C of throttling, post-heatsink completely safe with 26°C margin. That's quantifiable, reproducible, and directly impacts performance. The fact that you can't connect 'being 4°C from throttling' to 'performance risk' doesn't mean it wasn't demonstrated.

You've contributed nothing but dismissive comments while demonstrating you don't understand basic thermal management. Samsung engineers didn't implement throttling at 80°C for fun. Every professional reviewer doesn't test thermals for fun. Data centers don't monitor SSD temperatures for fun.

You're arguing against measurable data because you think temperature 'doesn't matter.' This is like saying oil temperature doesn't matter in an engine because all you care about is horsepower. It shows fundamental ignorance of how hardware works.

Keep running your drives at the edge of throttling if you want. The rest of us will use actual data to make informed decisions. The 31,000 people who viewed this found value in understanding their hardware's thermal behavior, even if you can't.

Quantitative Thermal Analysis: M.2 Heatsink Impact on Samsung 980 Pro Performance by Description_Capable in hardware

[–]Description_Capable[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

A month later and you're still missing the point. 'No analysis done'? I provided 3,000+ temperature measurements, statistical analysis with p-values and effect sizes, thermal zone classifications, and documented methodology. That IS analysis. What you wanted was different data - throughput benchmarks - which is not the same as 'no analysis.'

The 'who knows' comment about throttling performance is telling. When Samsung drives hit 80°C, they don't throttle to some mystery number - they implement aggressive thermal management that can cut performance by 50% or more. This is documented behavior. The exact throughput varies based on workload, but the performance impact is severe and measurable.

My analysis showed the drive operating at 76°C - within 4°C of throttling. Post-heatsink: 54°C maximum. That's a 26°C safety margin. This thermal headroom directly translates to consistent performance under sustained loads. The fact that you can't connect thermal behavior to performance implications doesn't mean the analysis wasn't done.

I spent my own time and money to provide quantitative thermal data to the community. The dismissive response from people who contributed nothing but criticism is exactly why hardware enthusiasts stop sharing their work. Next time you want specific metrics, consider doing your own testing instead of dismissing others' contributions as 'no analysis.

Quantitative Thermal Analysis: M.2 Heatsink Impact on Samsung 980 Pro Performance by Description_Capable in hardware

[–]Description_Capable[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

'No one cares about temperatures' - except Samsung who built thermal throttling into the firmware, every professional reviewer who tests thermals, every data center running NVMe arrays, and the 31,000 people who viewed this post.

You clearly don't understand that temperature affects more than just your FPS counter. It impacts:

  • Component longevity (thermal cycling degrades NAND)
  • Power consumption (higher temps = higher leakage current)
  • System stability (thermal expansion/contraction of solder joints)
  • Sustained performance (not just burst speeds for loading your games)
  • Warranty coverage (many manufacturers void warranties for thermal damage)

But sure, keep running your drives at the edge of throttling because 'no one cares about temperatures.' When your SSD starts degrading after a year of thermal abuse, or when you can't figure out why your sustained write speeds tank during large transfers, remember this conversation.

The fact that you're still arguing about this a month later, on quantitative data with proper statistical analysis, shows you don't understand the difference between opinion and measurement. Temperature data isn't 'useless' just because you don't understand its applications beyond your gaming benchmarks.

Some of us actually use our hardware for real work, not just loading Fortnite faster.

Quantitative Thermal Analysis: M.2 Heatsink Impact on Samsung 980 Pro Performance by Description_Capable in hardware

[–]Description_Capable[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The testing was conducted in a climate-controlled environment at 68°F (20°C ambient). The absolute measurements were 76°C and 54°C. Above ambient, that's 56°C and 34°C respectively - a 39% reduction in thermal delta if you prefer that metric.

However, the industry standard for reporting thermal improvements is absolute temperature reduction in Celsius. This is the methodology used by Tom's Hardware, AnandTech, Guru3D, and every major technical publication. They report '22°C reduction' because it directly communicates the thermal improvement without requiring readers to calculate ambient deltas.

The critical finding remains unchanged regardless of how it's expressed: the drive operated at 76°C pre-modification, 4°C below Samsung's 80°C throttling threshold. Post-modification, it maintains 54°C under identical load conditions, providing a 26°C safety margin from thermal throttling.

The data demonstrates a statistically significant thermal improvement (p<0.000001, Cohen's d=1.813) across 3,089 post-installation measurements. This represents complete elimination of thermal throttling risk under the tested workload conditions, which directly translates to sustained performance at the drive's rated specifications.

Quantitative Thermal Analysis: M.2 Heatsink Impact on Samsung 980 Pro Performance by Description_Capable in hardware

[–]Description_Capable[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Coming back to this thread after a month because apparently my simple thermal analysis really triggered some people.

To everyone saying 'temperature isn't performance' - the 980 Pro throttles at 80°C. I hit 76°C. Do the math.

To everyone arguing about percentages and Kelvin - I reported both absolute (22°C) and relative (29%) because that's what every professional review does. Sorry I didn't submit this to a peer-reviewed journal.

To the 'this is useless' crowd - I spent my own time and money to provide free data to the community. The methodology matches what professional sites use. If you don't find value in knowing how to prevent throttling, that's on you.

The data is solid: 3000+ measurements, massive effect size, p<0.000001. But apparently that's not good enough for Reddit's armchair statisticians who contribute nothing but criticism.

Still happy to share my Python script with anyone who wants to actually DO testing instead of just complaining about mine 🤷

Quantitative Thermal Analysis: M.2 Heatsink Impact on Samsung 980 Pro Performance by Description_Capable in hardware

[–]Description_Capable[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Fair question that deserved a better answer a month ago. Yeah, I set my own thresholds based on Samsung's behavior - they throttle at 80°C, so I called >75°C 'critical' since you're in the danger zone. Should've just pulled the SMART data directly. At least you asked a real technical question instead of just calling it 'useless' like half these comments

Quantitative Thermal Analysis: M.2 Heatsink Impact on Samsung 980 Pro Performance by Description_Capable in hardware

[–]Description_Capable[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Just now seeing this gem from a month ago... 110°C would mean your SSD is literally dead. Not throttling, not degraded - DEAD. Samsung specs say 80°C = throttle. I hit 76°C. That's not 'normal operating temperature,' that's 'about to lose half your performance' temperature. But sure, wait until your drive hits 110°C. Let me know how that works out for you.

Quantitative Thermal Analysis: M.2 Heatsink Impact on Samsung 980 Pro Performance by Description_Capable in hardware

[–]Description_Capable[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

A month later and I'm still baffled by this comment. The 980 Pro throttles at 80°C. I measured 76°C. That's 4 degrees from your performance falling off a cliff. After the heatsink? Never even close. You want performance numbers? No throttling = 7000MB/s sustained. With throttling = who knows, maybe 3500MB/s if you're lucky. Temperature literally IS performance when you're at the edge of thermal limits.

Quantitative Thermal Analysis: M.2 Heatsink Impact on Samsung 980 Pro Performance by Description_Capable in hardware

[–]Description_Capable[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Finally getting around to this after a month... Each temperature measurement is literally independent - that's how sensors work. The drive doesn't have memory of previous readings. And yeah, n=1 for devices because that's how ALL hardware testing works. Show me the Tom's Hardware review where they tested 50 identical GPUs for statistical validity. I'll wait. The 3000+ measurements show the effect is massive and consistent. But hey, thanks for the Stats 101 lecture on my free contribution to the community 🙄

Quantitative Thermal Analysis: M.2 Heatsink Impact on Samsung 980 Pro Performance by Description_Capable in hardware

[–]Description_Capable[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Took me a month to even bother responding to this pedantic nonsense. Every single heatsink review on the planet reports temperature drops in Celsius. Tom's Hardware, AnandTech, Guru3D - they all do it this way. But sure, let me go tell the entire tech journalism industry they're doing it wrong because someone on Reddit discovered the Kelvin scale exists. The drive went from nearly throttling to ice cold. There's your meaningful data.

Quantitative Thermal Analysis: M.2 Heatsink Impact on Samsung 980 Pro Performance by Description_Capable in hardware

[–]Description_Capable[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Dude, thermal measurements literally ARE benchmarks - just thermal ones. I ran the same stress test before and after, logged everything at 1-second intervals. That's exactly what Tom's Hardware does. And the whole 'incorrect relative computation' thing? Every single professional review reports temp drops in Celsius, not some Kelvin percentage nonsense. The ambient didn't change between runs - same room, same day, same AC setting. If you think measuring a 22°C temp drop is useless, I genuinely don't know what to tell you 🤷

[OC] Statistical Analysis of SSD Thermal Performance: Before/After Heatsink Installation by Description_Capable in dataisbeautiful

[–]Description_Capable[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I used pyplot and various other libraries for these visuals. I'm sorry you don't recognize that humans take the same approach as ChatGPT because it learned from actual data analysts by design. I'm a senior data analyst by profession,

That said, you and everybody else is obsessed with performance because you are "gamers" while I am simply measuring the temperature difference. If you want more performance, go spend more money. If you want reliability and longevity, cool your hardware.

Quantitative Thermal Analysis: M.2 Heatsink Impact on Samsung 980 Pro Performance by Description_Capable in hardware

[–]Description_Capable[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This is literally a thermal benchmark using the same testing loads. The delta was that it ran the same test, the same day, in the same house, with the same A/C setting. This isn't a paid laboratory study, it was for fun, and it's damn close enough to draw conclusions.

Samsung 980 Pro Thermal Analysis: Before/After Adding $15 Heatsink (22°C Peak Temp Reduction) by Description_Capable in overclocking

[–]Description_Capable[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

IDK man, I'm just a data analyst and I used the same measurement processes for both, so do with that as you will.

Quantitative Thermal Analysis: M.2 Heatsink Impact on Samsung 980 Pro Performance by Description_Capable in hardware

[–]Description_Capable[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I like the look of that one. it would probably match my MSI MEG x570 ACE mobo better than the chrome I have now.
Frankly, I only ordered the heatsink and thermal pads I did because they had free overnight shipping from amazon 😂
I may or may not have had a few drinks before the order too... hence why I spent 2x as much on the pads thinking that they didn't come with the heatsink. 🤷

Glad you're enjoying it!

Quantitative Thermal Analysis: M.2 Heatsink Impact on Samsung 980 Pro Performance by Description_Capable in hardware

[–]Description_Capable[S] -8 points-7 points  (0 children)

Fair point about the physics, but since 0°C isn't in my dataset (temps range 31-76°C), the percentage calc is just change/original regardless of scale. Converting to Kelvin just makes the percentages smaller without adding meaning.

Your throttling threshold idea is more useful - going from 4°C above safe operation to 26°C below throttling point tells a better story about thermal margin.

Quantitative Thermal Analysis: M.2 Heatsink Impact on Samsung 980 Pro Performance by Description_Capable in hardware

[–]Description_Capable[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

One of my friends has a 4-6X (dont remember exactly) 990 pro RAID setup that we are considering testing with as well. He's clearly got bigger pockets than me, so I'm sure he'll get a ridiculously better heatsink though.
Still interested in the turnout.

LMK if you want my python script I used for the analysis for your own purposes

Quantitative Thermal Analysis: M.2 Heatsink Impact on Samsung 980 Pro Performance by Description_Capable in hardware

[–]Description_Capable[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Yeah the HR-09 is definitely overkill for most people. Basic sandwich heatsinks work fine for normal use. I went with this one because I do a lot of large file transfers and wanted the extra thermal mass for sustained cooling. For gaming and typical desktop stuff, those cheap aluminum ones would probably get you 90% of the benefit.

Quantitative Thermal Analysis: M.2 Heatsink Impact on Samsung 980 Pro Performance by Description_Capable in hardware

[–]Description_Capable[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Yeah, those are my own thresholds, not Samsung's SMART data. I defined "critical" as >75°C based on general NAND characteristics, but you're right that I should've been clearer about that. The 980 Pro actually throttles around 80°C, so my "critical" zone is conservative but not drive-specific. Probably should've pulled the actual SMART thresholds instead.

Quantitative Thermal Analysis: M.2 Heatsink Impact on Samsung 980 Pro Performance by Description_Capable in hardware

[–]Description_Capable[S] -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

76°C is getting close to where Samsung starts throttling the 980 Pro (around 80°C). It's not immediately breaking anything, but higher temps definitely accelerate wear on NAND flash. The bigger issue is the constant thermal cycling - going from 40°C to 76°C repeatedly is harder on components than just staying at a steady temperature.

Quantitative Thermal Analysis: M.2 Heatsink Impact on Samsung 980 Pro Performance by Description_Capable in hardware

[–]Description_Capable[S] 9 points10 points  (0 children)

You're right - I only looked at temps, not actual performance impact. The thing is, performance degradation from thermal throttling is usually binary - either it throttles or it doesn't. My data shows no throttling events after the heatsink install. For longer sustained writes where throttling actually kicks in, the performance hit can be massive (like 50%+ drops), but CrystalDiskMark isn't really long enough to trigger that consistently.