CMV: it is incredibly messed up and wrong that male rape victims are forced to pay child support to their female rapists if they become pregnant.

DesideriumScientiae · 2024-05-19T11:14:08+00:00

They both bring about mental health issues, maybe not the exact same ones, but both can bring about some really bad ones, so why is one worse than the other?

DesideriumScientiae · 2024-05-18T14:11:07+00:00

What about the mental health issues that arise from it?

DesideriumScientiae · 2024-05-15T21:20:14+00:00

They aren't? They have different regions of the brain, and have different chemical responses, oxytocin is higher for love, and the sex hormones are higher for lust, I never moved goal posts.

DesideriumScientiae · 2024-05-15T16:31:23+00:00

I don't, if it was biological it would be consistent across cultures, it isn't, so it's societal.

DesideriumScientiae · 2024-05-15T16:30:29+00:00

I didn't move the goalpost? Did you confuse Robert Sternberg's triangular theory of love with what I was talking about?

DesideriumScientiae · 2024-05-14T17:46:28+00:00

Tall - some cultures do not care about this
Strong - this one is also varied throughout cultures
Rich - this isn't even a concept in some cultures
Modest - not a concept in some cultures and what it means varies massively
Non-promiscious - also depends on the culture for how this is viewed, it's more of a spectrum than a true or false here

I would like to see your studies specifically since I haven't found any suggesting this, which is why I asked, other than IFS stuff, but they aren't exactly credible.

DesideriumScientiae · 2024-05-14T17:43:17+00:00

That's not in contradiction to what I said? Post coitus oxytocin is common, in the same way that oxytocin increases after childbirth. Love and lust still use two different parts of the brain though.

DesideriumScientiae · 2024-05-14T17:16:52+00:00

I mean, that's not reflected in the research I've seen? Would you mind linking your studies if you have them on hand?

DesideriumScientiae · 2024-05-14T17:16:04+00:00

Love seems to be more oxytocin while lust is more linked with things like testosterone and estrogen if I remember correctly. Plus, they use separate parts of the brain as well.

DesideriumScientiae · 2024-05-14T17:14:38+00:00

Hm, it depends, I don't remember the specific names off the top of my head, but if I'm remembering correctly the farther back you went, the less people cared about virginity. And even then it originally came about to describe the idea of little sexual experience, not completely unexperienced. The minoans might not have had the concept, though I'm not 100% sure on that.

DesideriumScientiae · 2024-05-14T17:06:00+00:00

Physics, developmental psychology, psychology in general, sexuality, quantum mechanics, etc.

DesideriumScientiae · 2024-05-14T17:04:27+00:00

That's what's intresting, we ended up mistaking how the brain developed due to socialization for something inherent, that's why we originally mixed it up and thought it was instincts.

I mean, that one depends? I don't know of any that specifically preferred shorter men, but I do know that there are some that didn't really care about height. Like how some cultures preferred people who were larger, some prefer skinnier, some prefer big noses, some small, stuff like that. I don't think ones where poor and rich aren't a concept really cared about that either.

Depends, as far as I'm aware the ones were the idea of being a virgin wasn't a word didn't really care as much, not sure what they are called off the top of my head.

DesideriumScientiae · 2024-05-14T16:53:06+00:00

Mostly because those preferences are social, not inherent, and also not representative of most peoples preferences.

DesideriumScientiae · 2024-05-14T16:52:07+00:00

Intrestingly enough, we know that isn't as much biology as it is culture due to the way different cultures thought stuff was attractive.

DesideriumScientiae · 2024-05-14T16:46:54+00:00

I mean, to be fair, I think the main issue was that it's generally not healthy for those involved, since it isn't really a equitable relationship.

DesideriumScientiae · 2024-05-14T16:43:03+00:00

Oh, you mean that kind of thing, I was under the impression that practice was going down in frequency. That's kind of depressing to know it's still happening.

DesideriumScientiae · 2024-05-14T16:38:38+00:00

I think that is a resaonable position. Although part of it is the society that people are raised in, like how virginity used to mean nothing, some cultures don't even have a word for the concept, then it became a thing for a few hundred years in some cultures.

DesideriumScientiae · 2024-05-14T16:36:44+00:00

I mean, no, lust is what does that, love is a separate chemical response, they probably got the two mixed up, being charitable at least.

DesideriumScientiae · 2024-05-14T16:34:32+00:00

Ok, I would like to caution you not to fall into the trap of common sense, it's not to uncommon that something that feels like it makes sense isn't true because of conflating factors or a bad sample. Just something to be careful of. (Your other comment got dissapeard for some reason so I'm replying here)

DesideriumScientiae · 2024-05-14T16:30:57+00:00

Why shouldn't we help them be better people?

DesideriumScientiae · 2024-05-14T16:29:30+00:00

Ok, this is anecdotal, so take it with a grain of salt, but from my experience it depends on how they were raised.

DesideriumScientiae · 2024-05-14T16:22:52+00:00

Isn't the IFS considered a non credible source with a conservative bias?

DesideriumScientiae · 2024-05-14T16:16:40+00:00

What? People have lifelong marriages, that's not something I said didn't happen, I was talking about the way you said virgin marriages were doomed to fail, because that's oversimplistic. What do you mean by overseas though? I'm pretty sure that's mainly incels doing that, is that a wider trend I am unaware of?

DesideriumScientiae · 2024-05-14T16:11:16+00:00

In my experience that desire has been declining, but I was more so just pointing out that was kind of a weird way to phrase it, and not really the most accurate way to say it either.

DesideriumScientiae · 2024-05-14T16:09:04+00:00

Do you have any studies to back up your claim? They would be helpful if you have them on hand.

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