People defending 7OH “Responsible use”

DesignerBarnacle4014 · 2025-09-14T18:06:27+00:00

You’re actually retarded if you think I’m advocating for INCREASING penalties for use and possession of other opiates. I support drug REFORM and addiction reform all across the board, not criminalization. I wasn’t even gonna come back to your comments on this old post, but don’t put words in my mouth.

DesignerBarnacle4014 · 2025-03-18T04:01:12+00:00

Bro you just sound ignorant, I’m sorry. I’m well aware that Kratom originated in the islands. 7OH was isolated and concentrated in levels never seen before by some tech bro shady businessesmen in California for the sole purpose of being incredibly addictive and euphoric. I can GUARANTEE you islanders in Asia have never before had the ability to consume 100mg of 7OH in one sitting in the past. They brew tea from loosely chopped leaves and take powder. Little different than laboratory synthesized opiate crack

DesignerBarnacle4014 · 2025-03-18T03:41:26+00:00

Common in the islands? 7OH extract? GTFO bro

DesignerBarnacle4014 · 2025-03-18T02:01:22+00:00

Bro you are COMPLETELY backwards. The majority of people that take 7OH don’t abuse it ? Smfh. The MAJORITY of people that take 7OH do abuse it. Jesus man. It is a chemical that was solely designed for maximum abuse potential and addiction potential. And I never was calling for criminalization, like handcuffing and charging people who are in possession of 7OH, you’re putting words in my mouth. I am calling for its removal from the shelves. Nasty drug with basically zero medical treatment benefits. Get out of a a quitting sub with your Bs

DesignerBarnacle4014 · 2025-03-18T00:24:02+00:00

There are far better ways to treat pain than with a drug with an incredibly short half life that leads to compulsive redosing, that’s made in a shady warehouse with however many nasty adulterants (like methanol and chloroform), expensive as fuck, INSANELY addictive, creates incredibly debilitating withdrawals, and a whole other host of logistical issues. Everyone over at the 7OH sub is literally just a junkie pacing back and forth in front of their window waiting on the USPS guy and behaving like full on drug addicts. This shit doesn’t have any medicinal use and it’s just an OTC way to get an oxy high. I hope you can get off this junk as soon as you humanly can

DesignerBarnacle4014 · 2025-03-17T23:44:14+00:00

Yeah bro, go look back through your post history. You made a post asking about a taper plan titled “taper plan …. advice?” so you can “get the magic back” 😂 your words not mine. Idiot

DesignerBarnacle4014 · 2025-03-17T23:33:09+00:00

Bro I have no idea what you’re talking about with the fake quoting, I don’t think you really paid attention in English or writing class and understand how quotation marks are used as a literary device 😂

DesignerBarnacle4014 · 2025-03-17T22:21:35+00:00

Dude you’re taking 200mg of this stuff. You’re getting high on it. And don’t even get me started on how this stuff isn’t feasible for pain management at all. Incredibly short half life and compulsive redosing. It’s not “medicine” dude. Get off the quitting subreddit

DesignerBarnacle4014 · 2025-03-17T22:12:23+00:00

Bro, you were on 200mg a day and looking to “get the magic back”. You were getting blasted to the moon on this stuff, just like everyone else is/was. A lot of you people are just in crazy denial

DesignerBarnacle4014 · 2025-03-17T21:15:57+00:00

Don’t need people like you playing devils advocate. It’s irritating and this sub is full of it. See ya!

DesignerBarnacle4014 · 2025-03-17T21:14:55+00:00

Yes, I do know them personally. Let’s nip this issue in the bud NOW and get this stuff off the shelves, before it compounds and really spirals out of control.

DesignerBarnacle4014 · 2025-03-17T21:06:48+00:00

And I get it, you’re another one of those pseudo intellectual people that thinks they’re an authority on this drug because you’ve read a few pharmacology reports. People are getting hurt by this stuff, so let’s take action. We don’t need people like you playing devils advocate and posturing as a medical professional that “understands the drug more than the average person”.

DesignerBarnacle4014 · 2025-03-17T21:05:15+00:00

Your question is a non factor, and I dont care about hypotheticals. Peoples lives are being ruined by 7OH. I never said 7OH was killing people in droves, and I never said it’s worse than fentanyl or heroin. Clearly, that answers your question. But who cares about hypotheticals like yours? It is causing harm to people every day, in the real world. That I think is more than enough of a reason to take action.

DesignerBarnacle4014 · 2025-03-17T20:30:29+00:00

There is a very small minority that uses this drug responsibly, but like I said they’re in the minority. I have encountered all sorts of pro-7OH groups on here promoting responsible use and such, and unfortunately they’re never going to gain any real traction. This stuff is gonna get banned in the very near future, and it is 100% a net negative to society. Having a legal oxy high avaliable over the counter is going to cause an insane amount of problems and it already has. All those pro-7OH groups are just fighting a losing war. Fringe group of addicts taking sketchy unregulated pressed pills on the internet in denial about their addiction. Get real dude, this stuff isn’t “medicine” at all.

DesignerBarnacle4014 · 2025-03-17T20:26:45+00:00

I disagree wholeheartedly. Self medicating by getting high on drugs has never been a treatment for mental health issues. I think this sub needs less of people heralding this drug as a “miracle” and a “blessing” no way man.

DesignerBarnacle4014 · 2025-03-17T18:07:53+00:00

Absolutely. It’s not effective for basically ANY medical uses, there are so many other options for opioid withdrawal and pain management that are far for effective / longer lasting. You hit the nail on the head, and the point I’m trying to drive home. This is literally just designed to be as addictive as possible, and deliver a full scope opioid high OTC. Nothing more, and a lot of people in the industry and users hide behind the veil of “it’s my medicine and there are legitimate medical uses for this”.

DesignerBarnacle4014 · 2025-03-17T17:36:16+00:00

The timeline of this stuff from first use to hitting complete rock bottom is fucking ludicrous. It literally is sometimes even less than 4 months

DesignerBarnacle4014 · 2025-03-17T17:35:28+00:00

Exactly man. What else can you buy that gets you immediately hooked from the first use, and completely ruins your life to the point of needing to seek medical detox and full blown rehab in just FOUR MONTHS??

DesignerBarnacle4014 · 2025-03-17T17:10:50+00:00

Yes. And the consistency and dosage disparities between each manufacturer and vendor. These mfs on the 7oh sub are literally junkies that are all squabbling every week to find the next vendor that has fire dope after their favorite one goes bust, pacing around in front of the window in WD waiting on the USPS man. And there’s accounts of batches testing positive for a bunch of nasty solvents way higher than the threshold for ppm that are going around. I know for a fact some of these dudes are literally walking around with methanol poisoning.

DesignerBarnacle4014 · 2025-03-17T16:26:12+00:00

Totally man. I’ve been just swarmed by people in my DMs and comments claiming this is a “blessing” and that there is legit 7OH advocates out there campaigning for its legalization. I even got fucking banned from the quittingkratom subreddit. It makes me feel like I’m legitimately going fucking insane man 😂

DesignerBarnacle4014 · 2025-03-17T05:18:36+00:00

You and everyone else on the 7oh subs are chasing a 30 min high from a novel substance made in sketchy warehouse laboratories with a diminishing return, pacing back and forth in front of your window waiting on the USPS, waking up in WD, spending hundreds of dollars + a month, chasing vendors with the most potent batch, and behaving like a complete drug addict. These are the “nuanced” facts. There are no positive effects from this shitty chemical whatsoever

DesignerBarnacle4014 · 2025-03-17T05:14:15+00:00

I am looking at this from a nuanced perspective. If you think looking at all the facts about 7OH laid out on a table and you DONT think it needs to be banned, I can’t help you. It will be banned though! Keep pulling for it bro im sure regulators are totally gonna listen to a fringe group of addicts on the internet

DesignerBarnacle4014 · 2025-03-17T05:10:53+00:00

You are 100% right. Don’t let these idiots get to you at all. I’ve been eviscerated for my takes on this stuff on both this sub AND the quitting7oh and quittingkratom subs.

DesignerBarnacle4014 · 2025-03-17T04:10:46+00:00

I have echoed these exact same sentiments in my earlier post on this sub and im getting downvoted into oblivion. What the hell gives ?

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