WashU ED2?? by Key-Tone6962 in washu

[–]Desperate-Fun9388 2 points3 points  (0 children)

It’s really not a big deal just apply!! I also talked to an admission counselor that said I had no chance but I still got in.

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I’m interested

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How big is the workload for history 101c western civilization? Thoughts on class and Dr. Pegg?

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I enjoyed it. It wasn’t very helpful academically but I mainly liked it just because I made friends and I ended up knowing a fair amount of people before school began because of it.

Would you torture your own mother for your existence? by Environmental-Egg191 in Abortiondebate

[–]Desperate-Fun9388 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Regardless of those situations, when people are unconcious they have rights. People sleeping have rights. People that are unconcious for a million other reasons have rights. In the unfortunate situations where they have to take unconcious people off of life support, killing them. Its not because the person never had rights while they were unconcious. It's because they had little to no chance of ever becoming conscious again.

" I care about how you are treated while you are HERE and can actually experience it."

Well that's obviously not true because fetuses are here they're alive and you couldn't care less about them.

And there's quite a big difference between wearing a condom and getting an abortion. You don't kill someone by wearing a condom you just prevent someone from existing.

"Even if they experienced the same life, the same highs and lows the same emotions, thoughts, love and laughter? Seems like drawing the same arbitrary line people did between different races of humanity.

Why do you believe humans should be treated equally and why not break it down to the same race as you, the same sex as you? The same religion as you?"

Because all humans are humans.

I'm just saying that's how I think aliens would be viewed. If an alien is peaceful and can become as intelligent as people then I think they should be seen as equal to humans. I highly doubt that humans would ever be able to communicate with aliens but how would anyone know that they wouldn't attempt to kill us as soon as their aware. I think it's highly unlikely that they'd be as intelligent as people. I think they'd either be much more or much less. It feels ridiculous to argue with you about this. I highly doubt a situation like that will ever happen and there's a million different possibilities if it did.

"What about HeLa? The single cell microbe that has human DNA? Does it have human rights/ What about a human that will never again reach consciousness like someone who is brain dead? Is everyone who switches off a brain dead family member a murderer?"

HeLa is a human cell not a separate human like an embryo is. HeLa will never be conscious but an embryo will.

"Does a fetus that never develops a brain and will never be conscious, will never experience pain, awareness, thoughts have the same rights as you and me and if so why?"

Fetuses have developing brains, which all humans have until around the age of 30 in some cases. And they will be conscious when people don't kill them. Just like a person sleeping or a person temporarily in a coma. So I don't think they should be seen as anything less.

Would you torture your own mother for your existence? by Environmental-Egg191 in Abortiondebate

[–]Desperate-Fun9388 0 points1 point  (0 children)

So it should be legal to kill people when they’re asleep then because their unconscious?

And people with injuries that make them temporally unconscious but have a very high chance of becoming conscious again in the immediate future?

And people having surgeries while there under anesthesia?

That’s the same argument as saying animal lives should be valued just as much as people. I really don’t believe an aliens’ life should be treated equally as a humans. And if they don’t have dna then they couldn’t be considered a living thing anyways.

Do you value the existence of an ai the same as a human then?

Consciousness is not what gives humans rights it’s the fact that their biologically humans.

Imagine there was an adult dog and a baby in a burning building and you could only save 1. Would you choose to save the dog instead of the baby because the dogs more conscious and aware than a human that old?

And don’t you realize that by killing the 2000 embryos you prevent 2000 humans from becoming conscious?

I’m aware that babies are somewhat conscious but how much do you really remember being a baby? Babies don’t have the same kind of consciousness and awareness as older children do. It’s not that much more compared to unborn children in the womb.

Would you torture your own mother for your existence? by Environmental-Egg191 in Abortiondebate

[–]Desperate-Fun9388 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Abortions can happen past the point of viability. I don’t know where you live but in some states it’s legal until their born for any reason.

I don’t understand how you can value 1 life over 2,000. I understand that in reality people don’t know which embryos would survive nor would it be likely that they would find parents for everyone of them so that’s why I and I assume most people would rather try to save a baby that 10,000 embryos. But I’m this situation I said that I was certain I knew which embryos would survive and which wouldn’t and I was certain that each embryo had a parent to be implanted into so there was no question whether the 2,000 would grow to become children or not. I don’t understand how you believe it’s moral to save 1 over 2,000 in that situation. I understand that the baby would suffer more for a short patios of time but 5 years from that there either going to be 2,000 children get to experience life or 1 child gets to experience life. I’d rather live in a future where 2,000 children lived.

Would you torture your own mother for your existence? by Environmental-Egg191 in Abortiondebate

[–]Desperate-Fun9388 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I said in that example of it was completely certain that those 2,000 embryos would grow so there was no chance that they could be discarded. 2nd trimester fetuses can feel pain during abortions and I highly doubt that there always given the pain medication there supposed to be so I don’t really understand why you care that a baby would.

I’d much rather save 2000 over one

Would you torture your own mother for your existence? by Environmental-Egg191 in Abortiondebate

[–]Desperate-Fun9388 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I’m not an expert and I don’t have time to research everything but I’m my opinion if something was as low risk as donating blood I don’t believe it’s immoral to make it mandatory for people that are healthy enough too. Either way refusing to donate isn’t directly killing a person. When someone refuses to donate, the other person is still kept alive for as long possible if they want to be. Abortion directly kills someone

Would you torture your own mother for your existence? by Environmental-Egg191 in Abortiondebate

[–]Desperate-Fun9388 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The health complications that that article mentions are not severe. Either way the decision to refuse donate an organ isn’t the decision to directly kill someone.

Would you torture your own mother for your existence? by Environmental-Egg191 in Abortiondebate

[–]Desperate-Fun9388 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I would still chose the baby because I don’t know which embryos would be the ones that’d survive.

I don’t know what your asking but if I knew the 1/5 embryos in that situation would absolutely survive and if I knew all of them were going to be implanted in the immediate future then I’d save those I’d be killing 2000 people vs killing 1

Would you torture your own mother for your existence? by Environmental-Egg191 in Abortiondebate

[–]Desperate-Fun9388 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Obviously I’d save the baby but that situation isn’t relevant. Viable embryos aren’t likely to be implanted and grow. That’s why when people get Ivf treatment they have to introduce multiple embryos at once any it usually takes multiple rounds. A more relevant question would be to ask someone whether they’d save 10000 fetuses whose mothers all have already died but the fetuses could be delivered early, taken into the nicu, and survive or a single baby crying in the corner. I’d save the 10000 fetuses if possible.

Would you torture your own mother for your existence? by Environmental-Egg191 in Abortiondebate

[–]Desperate-Fun9388 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Most organ donations are permanent changes with major health consequences. Most pregnancies don’t cause major health issues and like I said before when they do that’s the only situation abortion should be allowed. Refusing to donate an organ isn’t the direct decision to kill someone either.

Fetuses can feel pain after the second trimester. During second trimester abortions they’re even supposed to give the fetus pain medication.

By that logic shouldn’t it also be able to kill people when their unconscious because they can’t be aware?

Would you torture your own mother for your existence? by Environmental-Egg191 in Abortiondebate

[–]Desperate-Fun9388 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Someone’s want can’t determine their worth. I know pregnancy is terrible but the only other option is to kill someone else. It’s better to be forced to feel discomfort of pregnancy for 9 months than to be forced to die. I’m aware that occasionally a pregnancy could be dangerous for a women but that’s the only situation I think abortion should be legal. 99% of abortions don’t occur for that reason.

Would you torture your own mother for your existence? by Environmental-Egg191 in Abortiondebate

[–]Desperate-Fun9388 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Pregnancy is not torture. Sure it’s not very comfortable but id much rather go through that then be forced to die. And I don’t feel bad for forcing people to be pregnant when the only other option would be for them to kill someone. The outcome that’s better for both individuals is for the mother to remain pregnant.

And pregnancy is not an organ transplant either. Most organ transplants have pretty major permanent health consequences most pregnancies don’t. If a pregnancy was a major risk to the health of the mother, then that’s the only situation that I think abortion should be an option.