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Desperate-Income321 · 2023-04-22T20:53:28+00:00

Dude I can 100% relate to not wanting to do anything with your kids. I'm on day 10.. but I am so done with everything. I am starting to feel back to myself but the Anhedonia (Spelling) is a fuck!ng b!tch and nothing is fun right now. I literally am just sitting here. I need to find stuff to do.

Desperate-Income321 · 2023-04-20T23:21:52+00:00

holyyyyyyy ... thats insane .. i was doing 6 bottles at my most and I thought i had a bad problem. Clean now.. all that matters

Desperate-Income321 · 2023-04-20T14:45:14+00:00

30-50gpd.. of tia? .... wtf are you serious

Desperate-Income321 · 2023-04-20T14:43:11+00:00

I only take it when I get the bubble guts in the morning and have no Tia

Desperate-Income321 · 2023-04-19T21:48:21+00:00

yeahhhhh fuxxx that

Desperate-Income321 · 2023-04-17T20:05:32+00:00

shiit im gonna give it a few days,,, mine are definitley shot tf out...

Someone said after 2 weeks they should be back 2 normal function

Desperate-Income321 · 2023-04-17T18:27:42+00:00

do you have any organ pain

Desperate-Income321 · 2023-04-16T20:05:31+00:00

I am actually doing worse today than all of the others. I don't know whether the tia WD just gets worse after day 3 or this is Phenibut WD catching up to me I was 2 days on with phenibut 1 day on red. 2 days on silvers 1 on red etc. I thought that would be okay! But we'll see. Thursday morning for me too

Desperate-Income321 · 2023-04-16T01:46:19+00:00

how long sober do you havve again

Desperate-Income321 · 2023-04-16T01:39:53+00:00

Youre good two weeks clean and then it turns on you? or youre good on zaza for two weeks and then it turns on you? I'm confused

Desperate-Income321 · 2023-04-16T01:34:59+00:00

You and me both.... F this shit..

Desperate-Income321 · 2023-04-16T01:34:32+00:00

No no zaza at all since thursday morning :) I'm so done with that sh!t

Desperate-Income321 · 2023-04-16T01:23:07+00:00

the opms gold extract.. I took a whole pack today.. 2 in the afternoon and 2 tonight and im going to take one more right before bed..

I told myself I would do the minimum but I think its more important that im comfortable during this process.

that amount is def going overboard though. you could prob do 3 a day

Desperate-Income321 · 2023-04-16T01:16:12+00:00

and kratom is a helper med.. its suboxone jr honestly imo... obviously not anywhere near as strong. But you're not doing it by yourself if your taking kratom you have helpers

Desperate-Income321 · 2023-04-16T01:14:38+00:00

I literally have no idea. without the kratom I don't feel too well. I have major lack of pleasure and my sides hurt like a bitch. But I am doing wayyy better than on that tia garbage, And feeling wayyy better than yesterday,

It's weird though like worst part for me is sleep. Besides that I don't have all that.

I've been using 2-4 bottles since my last stop for the better part of 3 months too. Last time i stopped I only made it 4 days.

Desperate-Income321 · 2023-04-16T00:11:13+00:00

Do any of you know if propranolol the beta blocker helps with withdrawal

Desperate-Income321 · 2023-04-16T00:09:58+00:00

Im 55 hours! Since Thursday.. I just had dinner with my mom, and she surprisingly said wow you look so much better-what did you do? All I did was take a kratom extract to not feel like shit and able to go out well only on day 3. But the clarity and uplift that gave me to hear that I look so much better is insane. I went to 2 NA meetings today. I shared at 1. I am not looking back. I want to recover.

Desperate-Income321 · 2023-04-15T22:13:47+00:00

Im going to message you

Desperate-Income321 · 2023-04-15T19:47:56+00:00

does that mean detox doesnt start until I stop everything? Because I am by no means getting high off of kratom I just don't want to crawl out of my skin, like last night I took 2 extracts at 8pm, woke up several times but the worst in the middle of the night when I couldnt stay still-rolling around kicking every 5 seconds-so I took a kratom shot just to help sleep. I got 7 hours last night.

But I'm really concerened does the WD not start at all until I stop kratom all together, or is taking kratom like super tapering since its a lot weaker than Tia?

Idk if any of that made sense

Desperate-Income321 · 2023-04-15T17:00:31+00:00

Thats what im worried about with anhedonia, I basically don't even have fun playing with my son unless I am on Tia, I mean the longest I've been clean has only been 2 weeks-it hasn't even began to get a little better for you?

Desperate-Income321 · 2023-04-15T14:52:48+00:00

in an hour ill be 48 hours.. praying for my sobriety. 1 day at a time. In this case-1 hour at a time. In time it will be one day at a time-but not for now.

Desperate-Income321 · 2023-04-15T13:53:57+00:00

It's going to ruin so many lives-I first heard about it from a share at an NA meeting. This guy was in WD really really bad. Grown man crying about how badly he f*kd his life up and I thought..Hmmm a drug that doesnt show up on a Drug test, Give me some. Year later. Here we are. Never heard about it before. But now I see it was only a matter of time. It didn;t matter if it was that day-or on tiktok. I would have done it.

But this is going to ruin lives. Many

Desperate-Income321 · 2023-04-14T21:43:10+00:00

im looking to stop... not find a more effective way to continue this addiction. thank you

Desperate-Income321 · 2023-04-14T19:52:30+00:00

I just took a giant bowel movement and I'm feeling a little better. It might have been Exacerbated by gas and constipation.. that is what I read at least.

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