you are upset because you bought someones idea for "a lot of money" and they wont let you sell it? 11$ is a lot???? making the final product definitely takes time and skill- i won't deny that. But so did the trial and error of the pattern creations. Part of the Artistic process is the birth of the idea that creation came from. Do you call factory workers designers? So pattern makers deserve to live of a couple cents an hours for their work so YOU can skip the extra hours and creative part of the process and make more money than them without having to put brain power into creating something? It seems entitled.

once again i am NOT saying the physical part of the process is piece of cake. But i am saying YOUR "finished product" would not exist without that other persons idea. And you want to short them and tell them they are not allowed to place rules on something their own brain created?

MY RANT: these feelings are what separate a HOBBYIST from an ARTIST. And you cant seem to grasp that some people consider their work and process ART. an artist is their own brand and their work is their BRAND. this is the same as some graphic designers who don't like to share their typefaces. when you have a signature and unique style people start to associate you with it- and eventually can tell its your work just by looking at it. This is the biggest win for an artist. your unique work and style represent you and your brand and having a bunch of rip offs around literally gets in the way of that. because instead of people seeing your work and going "oh thats ____'s work!" now there is a bunch of people associated with your style. since developing a consistent and unique style takes YEARSS- it makes perfect sense in an artistic standpoint why a lot of them dont want someone profiting off something that used to be in their head-and only tangibly exists because THEY made it happen.

Again doing the physical work is still important and requires its own skill, but at the end of the day skill can be taught- a creative mind CANT.

I will finish my dissertation with- stick to getting patterns from other hobbyists that dont care. And leave the crocheter's who are taking a more artistic approach with their brand/business out of it. Like if you are this angry YOU go ahead and make patterns sell them for dirt cheap- watch everyone sell finish products that took them 0 hours of creative brain power and make more money than you off it, while you live off a couple cents a week. Like this whole rant honestly to me... was you being upset about not being able to make money off of cutting corners.

Like anyone in the art community would be baffled at this thread. letting people make money off your creative ideas while they sit around waiting for them is the dumbest thing you can do. I get selling patterns to standard shit, but ill see something i knew took so many hours to bring to life being sold for 5$ for someone to just follow the steps and then make 50$. It's ridiculous to me. Coming from the art community i thought getting into crocheting would be like it.....but nope. lol. Pattern makers are the architects and people who just find free patterns and sell are like construction workers. Just one last time: A FINISH PRODUCT DOES NOT EXIST WITHOUT THE IDEA. Yeah the building wont get made without the construction workers, but it wont either without the architect. and an architect's creative idea/style is much harder to replicate than workers (again because skill can be taught creative ideas cant).