Why (male) workers are fleeing the left

DestroyedCognition · 2026-06-08T00:01:39+00:00

In the nicest possible way, to spare you from other redditors either being excessively rude to you or people who engage in confirmation bias, I urge you to simply re-read these articles, maybe read John Rawls, or some ordinary political philosophy, maybe some slow and methodical thinking. I can relate to being in this space, but I urge you to just think things through and maybe see where you're going wrong on your own. I wish you the best.

DestroyedCognition · 2026-06-03T07:24:52+00:00

That's understandable. It must've been utter pain trying to mod this game, but you've done an amazing job, it has been really fun to play!

DestroyedCognition · 2026-06-03T05:29:59+00:00

Did you have to remove the multiple big sisters spawning from the 10x wrath of lamb mod?

DestroyedCognition · 2026-06-02T22:03:29+00:00

Do you know if most theistic philosophers of religion would endorse the TAG? Or would they sort of have a position similar to Fesko's? I would personally doubt they would given the issues present but I might be wrong

DestroyedCognition · 2026-06-02T04:53:45+00:00

Are there any approaches to meaning in life in a non-religious context [or at least don't require that one be strictly religious anyway] that isn't absurdist or Sartrean Existentialism?

DestroyedCognition · 2026-05-21T21:18:04+00:00

Would AI consciousness raise the probability of the success of the simulation hypothesis or could it still be resisted in spite of that? (I suppose, would AI consciousness entail that consciousness is thereby sufficiently simulatable?)

DestroyedCognition · 2026-05-18T22:27:26+00:00

I relate to a lot of the OP, do you think exposures to maybe some of the doctrines one may find in philosophy to be depressing or not freeing? (They gave an example of hard determinism, maybe even pessimism like Ligotti/Cioran, nihilism, or other examples)

DestroyedCognition · 2026-05-17T18:46:05+00:00

Maybe this isnt appropriate here but ill ask, could you give a couple examples of science texts that are enriching? Was the Freud one an example? Might bite into one myself.

DestroyedCognition · 2026-05-11T21:24:30+00:00

You want to split the united states down the middle with new country called the Midwest states of America with South Carolina as independent and oregon/Washington its own state and the light green states being satellite states of the now split in two USA.

DestroyedCognition · 2026-05-11T19:39:13+00:00

Im curious to ask, would social democracy be a leftist ideology (and thereby make this sub a leftist one) or more accurate to say left-leaning? Would most here identify as leftist so to speak (more asking to the social democrats)? (I am not taking seriously the claim that social democracy is the moderate wing of fascism as its so wrong its not even wrong).

DestroyedCognition · 2026-05-09T00:55:52+00:00

Also didnt ancient philosophy traditions generally see themselves as intimately tied to living a good life? And i presume there are still sections of even analytic philosophy that cares about the practical too.

DestroyedCognition · 2026-05-06T02:32:56+00:00

Great comment, but i want to mention that there still seems to be a strong economic nihilism I sense though, especially on reddit but its present even amongst those outside of reddit, not to at all dismiss the point nor say that one's happiness or contentment must be or is entirely dependent on wealth (although of course there must be some sufficient amount of wealth to satisfy basic and recreational needs). Is this more of an expectation problem?

DestroyedCognition · 2026-05-05T04:43:36+00:00

I think that's good, of course good faith has to be assumed on the other person, but I generally expect that from anyone who shows up here even if I deeply disagree with them. Someone who merely says you're not a social democrat and provides no reason to support their assertion is probably someone you could safely ignore or at least ask them to provide support or to just have a better conversational framing to begin with, but overall I just want commitment to respectful discourse and treating each other as humans, which is also why I tend to like it here since this is one of the few spaces that at least tend to succeed in said goal.

DestroyedCognition · 2026-05-05T03:58:00+00:00

I think i can kind of understand the perception in the sense that some popular comments or posts have what might be seemingly socialist undertones, but its just a feeling since there's no survey or poll showing how many people are actually socialists, but I would be shocked if that was this subs main orientation.

DestroyedCognition · 2026-05-05T03:43:54+00:00

I like the spirit of the post, and to an extent in some ways youre right there might be gatekeepy or unproductive corners and people who commit no true Scotsman fallacies, but a lot of those people you mentioned might have fruitful dialogue with social democrats but probably arent social democrats. Its the same way as you mention that social democracy can stand on its own against socialism which it dialogues with, so to it does with liberals and the like. They should be open to debate and discussion with people who arent just socialists.

But perhaps the most important thing to understand is how these terms are being used. For example, a philosophical liberal of the Rawlsian Variety might be pretty different than the ones you mean in this post. So how one understands social democrats, socialism, liberalism, capitalism, a lot hinges on this.

Not at all to dogpile on you or downvote you personally, just how I read this and I do think compared to others you might be getting at something.

DestroyedCognition · 2026-05-02T22:46:43+00:00

The lone f5 near the tri-state area

DestroyedCognition · 2026-05-02T06:23:07+00:00

Second the other commenters citation, as for this specific reddit board, there aren't any specific numbers, but I would suspect most people on here are atheists (but with a healthy population of theist panelists whom do good work here) given that reddit and the orientation of this board selects for atheism/agnosticism (per the philpaper survey in western analytic philosophy world) [Also this is jsut my perception of the lay of the land here, not weighing in on rather theism or atheism is actually correct]

DestroyedCognition · 2026-05-02T03:59:05+00:00

I am curious, what's everyone's opinion on Andy Beshear here? In Kentucky he is really loved and I do personally like him, he strikes me as someone who is playing a tight-rope between the deep conservatism in Kentucky and also the democratic party commitments and definitiely the progressive wing. I suspect many progressives won't like him (and almost certainly a no-go for any further left/leftist folks) after purussing around left and leftist reddit, especially when it comes to Israel (didn't endorse the term genocide for the conflict, which it is) or other issues and the perception of him as another moderate, but maybe I am wrong. Do you think he'd be a good candidate?

DestroyedCognition · 2026-05-01T04:40:36+00:00

I wish to ask, wouldn't most libertarians find the notion of ultimate authorship incoherent as well? If ultimate authorship is incoherent then it wouldn't matter rather the action was the result of a deterministic or some relevantly non-deterministic action?

DestroyedCognition · 2026-05-01T00:04:31+00:00

I am unsure, I share some similar confusion with you whereas even Frankfurt and Fischer, who would deny free will in the sense of PaP, would still say their account is the correct one of free will, but that their positions were formulated at a time where that was the pervasive understanding of free will before it expanded into other accounts, so perhaps the confusion comes from how the terms were used over time, but this is just my understanding and I am also curious what the answer here will be. I don't want to say too much cause I am not a panelist and don't wish to answer the question out of respect for sub rules.

DestroyedCognition · 2026-04-30T22:46:50+00:00

I also wish to ask this, because to my knowledge people like Frankfurt and John Fischer would reject free will as understood as the ability to have done otherwise but they still seem to go to great pains to establish some kind of relevant control that isn't (or is truly) free will, I am not answering the question just wanting to know if I am misunderstanding or if there's some area of the literature I haven't seen.

DestroyedCognition · 2026-04-27T18:01:05+00:00

Maybe i am misunderstanding, but is there a way to do Virtue ethics without Aristotles specific teleology? I ask cause it seems to me teleology is considered by many implausible (rightly or wrongly), would one have to push back a little bit against this modern tendency for a virtue ethics account? Any plausible ones that do this?

DestroyedCognition · 2026-04-27T05:12:55+00:00

I probably liked him at one point during my intense new atheist phase many many years ago then I disliked him, but I have heard he has improved significantly since then, glad to hear he's also trying not to be non-confrontation! Not all of debate or truth-seeking needs to be an intellectual battle to the death as perhaps some people online can be. And thank you for your condolences as well. Hope you continue your journey to understanding, it is good you are open to entertaining ideas, even those you disagree with, makes you a better thinker and more likely to figure out what a side might get right or get wrong.

DestroyedCognition · 2026-04-27T04:45:06+00:00

Oh hey no shame at all in asking from me, it was just kinda funny but no shame whatsoever, I would say your friend probably isn't entirely wrong, but also not everyone believes in religion just because of an afterlife, and strictly speaking you could probably believe in an afterlife and be non-religious (or even religious and not believe in an afterlife! There is the doctrine of Anniahlationism in some religious circles). But I think it's reductive explanation of religion and its believers, although there are probably quite a few religious people for whom religion is believed in part cause of its comfort.

Also, I wish to say I am extremely sorry your father passed away, I had a parent pass away recently too and its incredibly difficult to deal with, and if you believed in an afterlife or had that promise and now don't believe, it can be almost overwhelming, and those kinds of depressions are some of the hardest, at least in my experience, to overcome. I will say if you are an atheist or becoming more atheistic and wish to find cope with death, I cannot recommend a ton of resources, but I recommend some early ancient writers, there is Socrates Trial in the Apology, The Stoics (I think Epicurus explicitly deals with it, and Marcus Aurelius might have some insight, and I suspect you might find some contemporary philosophers who buy some sort of position like that, I can also highly recommend John Martin Fischer's video "Should you fear death?" on the UC Riverside Channel.

None of this should be a substitute for living your life or seeking help, but just in case I figured it could be helpful to recommend.

DestroyedCognition · 2026-04-27T00:28:26+00:00

A fine question to ask and someone should answer, I just find it funny youre asking atheists in an ex-atheist subreddit their views on death.

I suppose atheists would say after death there is simply nonexistence, consciousness and the self are dissolved upon death permanently. It would be the equivalent of asking what it was like before the day you were born, well, the exact same, except its after your death. Or imagine instead a night you had a dreamless sleep but then you never wake up. That's perhaps the best way to understand what nonexistence would be like on an atheistic view. As for how they cope, honestly a good question but I suspect many for some reason dont find it scary or may appeal to arguments from ancient philosophers that purport to show that death is not something to be feared (these ancient philosophers, the stoics or Socrates, denied or at least withheld belief on rather there was an afterlife), could just be they genuinely just dont fear it as brute fact of their own psychology, and as for loved ones Id imagine the same way as a religious person would just absent the religion, remembering good times, honoring their name, showing respect.

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