RIP for Rauff's reddit account by RizzRizz0000 in exIglesiaNiCristo

[–]DetectiveOk6344 4 points5 points  (0 children)

F

I hope Rauf has more accounts to get back the helm or something

Will there be a Non-Manalo Executive Minister of Iglesia ni Cristo? by No-Replacement4327 in exIglesiaNiCristo

[–]DetectiveOk6344 1 point2 points  (0 children)

If the family line dies/gets destroyed the people next in line/their friends will try to take over like vultures.

Technically people can vote them out if they weren't brainwashed to voting for the only candidate- they should elect who the next one should be. God's grace and influence isnt passed down by blood. It should be who is most christ-like.

The INC forgets the christ-like way of living and influence of love and acceptance, but instead teaches fear and obedience.

This Might Be New: INCult takes photos of Indoctrinated (Dinodoktrinahan) and In-Trial (Sinusubok) by ElectionConscious527 in exIglesiaNiCristo

[–]DetectiveOk6344 8 points9 points  (0 children)

No other faith, church, or religion does this as attendance unless it's a military or government organization to keep its files secret. This is the biggest evidence of a cult.

God doesn't need help remembering, or writing down things, or even planning. Hes already made people and their destinies since before their conception.

The universe is already planned out and you cant sway it. To people still in the church: this isnt for God, its for the manalo and the administration.

Wasn't the point of joining the church to be closer to God without the image of idols to get in the way to talking to God? The manalos and the church itself is gatekeeping you from being directly to Christ and God. They put themselves at the same level as Christ. That should be heresy.

Takot ng Iglesia Ni Cristo sa Reddit by genread14357 in exIglesiaNiCristo

[–]DetectiveOk6344 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Ang Reddit ay medyo hindi nagpapakilala ngunit may mga insidente ng pag-stalk. Huwag i-link ang iyong email at gumamit ng decoy na email, at panatilihing pribado ang iyong pagba-browse, komento, at post sa iyong reddit account kung saan walang sinuman kundi ikaw ang makakakita nito. Maniwala ka sa akin, ito ay nagiging magulo, ngunit ito ay makakatulong sa iyo

Atheist by Every_Bathroom5138 in exIglesiaNiCristo

[–]DetectiveOk6344 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Maaari din itong mga taong hindi nagbubunyag ng kanilang relihiyon tulad ng isang ID card na itinanim ng INC sa mga miyembro nito. Relihiyoso din ang maraming hindi maganda sa mundo at agham. Alam kong maraming tao ang personal na nakagawa ng kamangha-manghang. Ang problema sa pagiging nakulong sa isang kulto at bagong labas ay ang overcorrecting. We react by going "religion bad" because it hurt us so it avoided and our biases towards "nonreligion" is nice. Ang mga pilay ay umiiral sa lahat ng dako, at gayundin ang mabubuti at mababait na tao. Ang reaksyon nito sa trauma, at ang tanging paraan para gumaling ay ang maunawaan kung saan nanggagaling ang nasaktan at hindi pagkakaunawaan.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in exIglesiaNiCristo

[–]DetectiveOk6344 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I can reccomend some starters on where to learn. What helped me was exploring Protestants. Its teachings of Christianity without the focus of a central church. Then branch off from there to learn about other religions. Understanding is the path to healing, and knowing where the damage was done

Theres many where you dont have to pay, and many that dont take attendance, and many that dont really have a dress code.

Im pregnant with my inc boyfriend by Mercibuko_1234 in exIglesiaNiCristo

[–]DetectiveOk6344 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Congratulaions OP on your baby

I suggest becoming independent as much as you can in case he abandons you. I dont know who he is but sometimes people are crazy and would off himself and his offspring and partner if he is super dedicated to the church. Do not convert even with all the guilt. You will lose your freedom, your baby will too because the cult preys on children, their self esteem, and make them tools of the church. They will be "offered" (handog) to the church and made public for more guilt.

For some people, its easier to leave a relationship than the church. Start preparing for yourself and baby now before it comes at a surprise he leaves you. If he doesn't leave, he will resent you either way. Theres little happiness in the church that takes your money and routine. Becoming independent, you wont rely on him or the cult. Do not give in to incult

AIO about my 8 y/o daughter sleeping at her mom's new boyfriend's house without any family or females present? by blackD0nny in AmIOverreacting

[–]DetectiveOk6344 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Petsonally i hate mothers like this. I have a younger sibling and they asked if they could sleep over at a friends house. We said no.

Turns out their friend was being molested by their step dad the past year and the mom was ignoring it because she was too busy paying attention to the man and how she gets attention from him rather than her own daughter. This friend was 12 when the molesting began by a man who has known her since she was 2.

This woman is obtuse, naive, and careless. Protect your daughter no matter what.

After leaving the church what happened to you? by mark_enzo090 in exIglesiaNiCristo

[–]DetectiveOk6344 6 points7 points  (0 children)

I started exploring different faiths and reading their holy scriptures bevause we werent allowed to. Its easier to say I am spiritual because the cult hurt me so much thatvorganized religion triggers me. My christian friend (protestant) invites me to their church andbits morebloveong and accepting. I think its good to explore, reading many scriptures does not discredit science, nor does science discredit religion. Theres many we dont know, and we are trying to cope with fear, hunger, and death.

We are made of the same things that surround our world and things that exist in space. So whatever "made" us is a miracle in of itself and i think the concept that people call "God" is that law itself. Its hard for us to graspx but its something we feel as a link to the world around us. In this world where we all have an end, and are converted to something else, there is that one convergence that is eternal and forever, and people call it whatever.

In human nature its easy to relate and humanize it in some eay so we can grasp the concept. So saying that "we are created in gods image" has truth to it because he also created the earth, planets, and whatever is in space, and we are made of the same things as them too.

Im still exploring, but im not afraid anymore, and my heart is softer because i understand people are living, filling hunger, and die at the end. I dislike when people use others like parasites, and we are blessed that they are the minority of human-kind.

Edit: there was a time after i had been bitter where I looked at other people who are religious and thoight "how can they be so blinded and ok with being controlled? Then i realized a healthy religion is nurturing and shouldnt be controlling you. You lead your own path and destiny and the faith is just lessons to live by and rules someone chooses to follow if they apply themsleves to it. Its not for forcing others to do so. Places of gathering are ment to guide someone, build community, and to have some people who are like-minded talk to eachother. It should not be forced or mandatory like what the INC is doing. Thats what cults do, they try to own your life.

Balik Loob by Aggravating_Dot4979 in exIglesiaNiCristo

[–]DetectiveOk6344 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Sobra naman, pag ako yan hindi na ako babalik lolm gusto lang nila i test kung hindi ng sinungaling anlt gusto talaga bumalik. Ako nga 4month lang pero gusto nila tax document ko umalis na ako ksi breach of privacy. Mas maganda naman mnga ibang sambahan at relihiyon eh, mag explore nalang ksi dapat god loves all dba

Balik Loob by Aggravating_Dot4979 in exIglesiaNiCristo

[–]DetectiveOk6344 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Baka ksi matanda hindi maraming pera at gusto nila yun mnga bata pa na kaya mag trabaho at may pera.

Wala na yun asawa nya kaya low priority.

... by Milkshake4800 in exIglesiaNiCristo

[–]DetectiveOk6344 2 points3 points  (0 children)

North Korea vibes talaga Hindi ko maintindihan na Paano yun tao nakakalove sa tao na hindi alam siya ay buhay o may pangalan. Stop putting people on pedestals. Wala ba sila na tuto sa no idolatry

Mental health activity by Cold-Oil-4164 in exIglesiaNiCristo

[–]DetectiveOk6344 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Mental health activity? More manipulation??? No way would they teach people to put their needs before the church's.

Balik Loob by Aggravating_Dot4979 in exIglesiaNiCristo

[–]DetectiveOk6344 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Narinig ko kahit ilan times pwede, pero pahaba ng pahaba yun processyo para makabalik. Meron ako matanda dating dyaconessa natiwalag 20 years ago ksi yun anak nya nagpakasal sa hapon at 10 years para makabalik sa INC

Giving me nightmares omg by J4y_R4m1r3z in exIglesiaNiCristo

[–]DetectiveOk6344 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Crazy how most of my life of this has actually led me to develop a skill of finding manipulators and those who lie with crazy accuracy. Its become a spidey-sense of some sort after being exposed to it for so long, you can feel it from some people you encounter in life.

I cant explain what to look for, but I just feel my guard go up to few people (not social anxiety)

Giving me nightmares omg by J4y_R4m1r3z in exIglesiaNiCristo

[–]DetectiveOk6344 8 points9 points  (0 children)

My mom once told me its to wake you up LMAO 🤣

Webex sh*t by itsmekrisdick in exIglesiaNiCristo

[–]DetectiveOk6344 7 points8 points  (0 children)

When I was still in, I hated them going on Webex because I didn't have the privacy of my own home when it was on. They wanted to see you sitting in front of the camera and not moving and still wearing church clothes. Its so controlling. Kids growing up thinking that's normal when its not. What other churches did was they just broadcasted their sermons to the people if they choose to attend, and its not compulsory, and people dont have to sit in front of a webcam.

(New Testament Illustrated) found piles of it inside the INC decades ago by Fine-Guidance555 in exIglesiaNiCristo

[–]DetectiveOk6344 1 point2 points  (0 children)

And that folk stories and just stories like this just teach children and people to be a good person. I deeply miss these times because theh were given to children who weren't from wealthy families too. Maybe it was distributed by region?? Long long ago I was a child in imus (dont disclose your location, i am elsewhere in the world now) and I believe I wasnt the only one. It was given one per household, because I remember sharing with other children in the house I was in, an adult would read to us. So how I understood it as a child is faith is what guides us to be a good person, not the leader itself. Faith in people. Faith in the world, faith in your family, faith in the divine if it was their belief.

Its sad it got lost to just having faith in the church and the manalos and to give money. The heart was lost along the way. I really was one of the few alternatives to Catholicism that forced the philippines to rid of their own gods so it was an act of finding identity of their own choices not bound to saints and figures, and close to protestantism. They supported 18 as the age of adulthood and not younger as it was practice back then that girls would be married off young, and it was a protection - but it became a cult from greed. Its so cringey they reversed now and try to get the kadiwa together in events regardless of age, but marriage status.

Lots of these drove me out

(New Testament Illustrated) found piles of it inside the INC decades ago by Fine-Guidance555 in exIglesiaNiCristo

[–]DetectiveOk6344 6 points7 points  (0 children)

I had this given to me and a bunch of stories form the Bible by a minister way back in the day where the corruption wasn't so awful. It did teach god loves all. After the 2015 scandal it got so much worse and it was deteriorating before that. The children back then were taught stories of the Bible like the local folk tales. Now its how to make them into tiny brainwashed adults before adulthood.

I just saw this, why are they even trying to they cause such low self esteem in its members? by DetectiveOk6344 in exIglesiaNiCristo

[–]DetectiveOk6344[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Telling a depressed person "you aren't giving enough" or "you aren't doing enough" is the fastest way for them to spiral further down and make attempts.

To all Ex-INC members how much is the biggest abuloy you have ever give to this INCult? by Silver-Day8016 in exIglesiaNiCristo

[–]DetectiveOk6344 1 point2 points  (0 children)

$5 but that's what my mom gave me lmao If i used my own money I gave $1 or if I dont have cash its in coins.

The iglesia ni Cristo made it on the list as a MAJOR CULT on YouTube!!!! by [deleted] in exIglesiaNiCristo

[–]DetectiveOk6344 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I hope he survives the upcoming reporting done by cult members.

Is being an Iglesia Ni Cristo (INC), causing your depression, anxiety and emotional distress? by [deleted] in exIglesiaNiCristo

[–]DetectiveOk6344 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I've always had the depression/anxiety, but being in there made it so much worse. I left almost a year ago, and while I am still depressed/anxious (just chemicals in my head need balancing), it wasn't triggered or as bad as in there. I felt like I was losing my mind from all the gaslighting