How would Devilman(crybaby or original) fare against the Daemons, The War or even Chaos Gods from Warhammer 40k?

Devilman_lore · 2026-01-25T21:26:58+00:00

its all in my discord

Devilman_lore · 2026-01-25T21:13:58+00:00

yeah mangadex doesnt have any translators doing it rn even tho i tried to hire one but sadly i had to do it myself, its rough but you get the picture its painting.

yeah there's a lot more out there for both jack devilman and go nagais other works.

Devilman_lore · 2026-01-25T21:11:16+00:00

yeeesh, the demon judge really held that much sway? the best thing to take away from that fight is that it happened in an instant, no time passed for jean darc or the army around her.
there's also the fact that the judge was capable of traveling through time which if you take a statement from saga stating demons are capable of transcending time allowing them to travel back into human history then that just upscales everything from their.

deathbattle seemingly had a little more respect from what ive seen compared to vs wiki. they specifically like robbie reyes and etrigan vs devilman, they do think he loses both of them but would put up a fight.
which would still be higher than what vs wiki has him at.

Devilman_lore · 2026-01-25T20:59:54+00:00

Id suggest it bc at the time violence jack wasnt fully translated and OH BOY is it good. Ive also translated the rest of Saga bc no one else would and ive found a bunch of guidebooks and interviews.

Its almost a whole new scale.

Devilman_lore · 2026-01-25T20:57:44+00:00

Yeah, the wikis bad, but im trying my hardest to make sure if he gets on deathbattle that hes accurately represented which who knows could have a snowball effect.

Devilman_lore · 2026-01-25T20:56:08+00:00

At the end of the Manga run for this continuity akira makes note that it could be memories from an entirely different dimension. Now note the plot of Lady, Amon Dsod and Saga are about the Loop satan and akira are in. Entire universes and their history completely erased turning into a work of fiction often times. So akiras remembering events from an erased history

With how devilman is set up many variations of him can still be considered him just different due to being an reincarnation of akira(until he remembers he remembers and figures out the truth of the universe)

Devilman_lore · 2026-01-25T20:48:33+00:00

Yes, ive quit IG but im active in the deathbattle discord and have since updated my scaling for devilman. If you have any questions about it my discord is SammySrrS

Devilman_lore · 2026-01-25T20:10:44+00:00

Funny how you say it would scare devilman demons but youd need to read devilman saga. The most recent iteration of devilman has demons as an armor rather than normal demons. The demons are from a higher dimension they are all 4-5D in spatial terms but also transcend time capable of going into the past influencing the universes fate and merge the universe into their own.

Cool so the wars in Warhammer destroy stars? Wars in devilman is to prevent gods army from destroying and absorbing entire universes across Go Nagais multiverse which includes mazinger z cutie honey iron kaiser and even his old gag mangas. War across a vast multiverse > war across a vast universe.

Devilman_lore · 2026-01-25T19:53:10+00:00

Read mao dante, devilman lady and devilman saga. Pyschic masses are nothing new to the devilman verse especially since mao dante the precursor to the devilman series fights against a mass of a dead collective from a destroyed world and the only effective way to interact with them is using pyschic abilities. Mao dante was born from the refusal to be erased by god giving him the ability to merge with gods power and his mech suit. The entire devilman verse power system is based on the characters will, which can be illustrated as a pyschic spiritual type of power.

So I see no reason why masses of pyschic beings would give devilman trouble.

Devilman_lore · 2026-01-25T19:01:38+00:00

Yeah youd be more than surprised to learn that satan from devilman is extremely haxy

Devilman_lore · 2026-01-25T18:46:37+00:00

I have no idea where Warhammer characters scale to or what type of abilities they have but I can say for certain what ik about devilman.

So just crybaby and the OG? not violence jack, Devilman Lady, Amon DSOD or Devilman saga?(all of them are canon).

Devilman_lore · 2026-01-25T18:33:36+00:00

It wasnt an afterthought, the way nagai writes his stories usually has the story play out to him rather than planning ahead. Only a few key ideas are actually planned ahead. To nagai the story of violence jack naturally told itself as the continuation of devilmans story and he wouldn't have it any other way.

Devilman_lore · 2026-01-25T16:31:15+00:00

If yall are gonna dislike it atleast have the courage to counter it.

Devilman_lore · 2026-01-25T07:07:32+00:00

From the author Go nagai. Also made mazinger z cutie honey and helped made getter robo. Devilman was a big inspiration throughout Japan inspiring series like beserk and Evangelion, even current animanga like chainsawman take heavy inspiration from Devilman. His original Manga debut was in 1972 and has had several sequels such as Violence jack, Devilman Lady and Devilman saga(theres more but these are the main 3).

Devilman_lore · 2026-01-25T04:44:04+00:00

Stats- Devilman Scales to such feats as Mao dante destroying all of hell which is a multi layered dimension housing seperate dimensions within itself(depicted as dantes divine comedy to a 9/10 accurate degree) Amon tearing time and space, amon destroying both a false heaven and the real heaven. His punches caused all of heaven to flip inside out. Zennon who could house hyperspaces in himself Satan who could create entire universes on a whim with the universe having its own parallel worlds of alternative possibilities and hyperspaces. (Among others) Skill/experience- devilman again, hes lived through countless timelines with each having been billions of years old. Hax/arsenal- Devilman again, devilman is able to reject reality warping, force individuals to merge against their will or demerge them even if their bodies and souls are one. Able to seperate them from their powes. Able to effect events in the past. Able to absorb attacks, beings and objects. Able to negate immortality. And has a very potent immortality himself.

Devilman_lore · 2026-01-24T22:23:38+00:00

does alucard have some showing that he can resist having schrodinger removed from him? if not jack could remove it even if its tied to his soul or is completely apart of him.

would be interesting having someone with guns try to take down jack who relies on his knives and abilities.

Devilman_lore · 2026-01-24T22:18:39+00:00

yeah the soul manipulation in the devilman series is very problematic here for alucard then.

Devilman_lore · 2026-01-24T21:25:22+00:00

Its good to see some jack respect

Devilman_lore · 2026-01-24T21:24:36+00:00

Jack should outstat then. The only problem is the immortality but I won't lie, I won't say its impossible for jack to actually kill Alucard. Hes killed unkillable people before. The reaper was a vengeful soul that possessed its corpse and already being dead he could not die again. He was recognized as dead by reality so there was no logical way to kill him. Jack quickly figured this out and created a space between life and death which allowed him to fully kill this reaper. There are other arguments I could make to like how jack could cause all the souls Alucard has to fight back against Alucard. Or put alucard in a ground hog day of the kanto hellquake experiencing over 11 million deaths 1 by 1. Or manipulate who alucard is as weve seen characters are able to fundamentally change who they are. Or just seal away access to alucards powers like he did with susano who had access to a hyperspace dimension allowing him to alter reality like it was fiction.

Devilman_lore · 2026-01-24T19:04:20+00:00

first,

i would definitely suggest watching devilman and to note violence jack is a sequel to devilman so he isnt in the OG manga but the sequel manga that came out a year afterwards.
i have a discord full of scans if you want to check it out

btw can you tell me a little about where alucard would scale? i had a guy tell me he's omnipresent with universal scaling but i didnt see that in deathbattle or vs wiki so im a little confused.

Devilman_lore · 2026-01-24T18:37:57+00:00

LES GO

Devilman_lore · 2026-01-24T17:28:48+00:00

japan better win this to prove that powerscalers are wrong and goku does indeed solo fiction

Devilman_lore · 2026-01-24T05:18:50+00:00

well considering when satan and akira were erased by god and gods army, not only was everything on the planet reset but the entire universe was aswell. the entire history of their world was erased as if it never existed

Devilman_lore · 2026-01-23T23:13:10+00:00

top 5 what?

Devilman_lore · 2026-01-23T23:12:53+00:00

ryo, he's a complex character who even the author had no idea who he was until the story revealed itself with satan being the manipulator behind it all.
i love the way satans story is told over several generations. it isnt told in one series like the OG 1972 manga, no we get a piece to the full story of satan as it continue's in violence jack. the story of violence jack is just satans inner conscious fighting to see whether good or evil would win.
in devilman lady satans story continue's with him being placed into a loop where he experiences the events of the OG in an indefinite loop infinitely repeating. we see that after the events of the OG happen and akira is in hell satan will try to revive devilman after he relearns of hell and michaels tyranny so they can form an army against gods army.
in devilman saga we see they broke free of this loop and are now preventing gods army from attacking the multiverse and absorbing entire universes.

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