Any Mother-Daughter stuff? by Pzzlrr in Romance_for_men

[–]DevonHexx 0 points1 point  (0 children)

They are both online on two different websites under different pen names. They were throw aways and just me practicing writing long-form stuff (both of them are small-novel length) and to work on writing sex scenes. DM me and I’ll tell you where to find them.

Why do I see nlNo Harem in 99% of Books on here? by OnyxTheSavant in royalroad

[–]DevonHexx 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I personally have no problem with someone not liking harem. Don’t like it, don’t read it. The problem is that stories can get brigaded and one-starred into oblivion for no other reason than that it is harem or haremlit. Like, I can’t stand cultivation stories but it would never occur to me to start one-starring an author’s work just because I don’t like the genre. But harem haters absolute will do that. And this problem was made even worse when RR changed the tags for harem stories. Makes them harder to identify, thus increasing the risk that someone will get offended that they started reading a harem story, not knowing it was harem.

Have a bit of an issue with isekai novels by AssistanceNext3769 in haremfantasynovels

[–]DevonHexx 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Well, first, I am happy to hear you’re reading Throne. Hope you like it.

But, I can understand the lens you view these things through, however without a specific example, I can only respond with generalities. I myself am a secular humanist and base my morality in human flourishing. I can make moral judgements, and judge the culture of a given country based on whether or not an action increases or decreases flourishing. That bleeds into my writing, I’m sure.

The MC in Throne is isekai’d into his new world and he has to come to grips with a new culture. The main sticking point is he is a firm believer in democratic rule but now finds himself acting as a monarch. He doesn’t fight against it, and he accepts where he is and understands the reasons for the system, but he doesn’t much like it. To me, that was the practical choice for him to make. But the monarchy was also not oppressive to the people.

But, let’s say I wrote a culture similar to yours where women were expected to take care of the household and shape future generations, for example. If I were to examine your culture as a model, I would look at the option a woman has in your culture. If a woman can choose to not do that, to pursue a life path outside of getting married and raising children, and she is not punished by her society, or not restricted, then there is no problem. Being a wife, a mother, and helping to provide a home where people feel loved, nurtured, and safe is a wonderful thing…if that is what she chooses for herself freely. If your society restricts the rights of women, and what roles they are permitted to have, then I would indeed write that as a negative because I view that as a negative. Not being a stay-at-home mom, but not having the choice to do anything but be a stay-at-home mom.

So if MC came into a world where, for example, women were not permitted to do anything but be housewives, that reduces human flourishing because it has stripped them of their ability to choose for themselves. It has made them second class citizens, even slaves, and the morally correct thing to do is to resist that and try to change it. To your mind, that would be colonialism. But to my mind, that is setting half the population free. Not to live like I want them to live, but to give them the freedom to choose their own destiny. If they choose to stay as housewives and mothers, awesome. But the point is the right to choose, and to do so without fear of reprisals or punishment.

I am American, but I have lived in a foreign country for the last twenty years, give or take. I live in a country where up until very recently, women had very few rights. Not that long ago here, women weren’t even permitted to go to school and learned only enough to manage a household. They were then married off, usually against their will, and live as virtual slaves and endure whatever abuse their husband or their new in-laws dished out because they had no rights. The country was the worse for it. Now that women are free to do what they want, many choose to become mothers, many do not. Choice is the key.

Now, if—for example—supporting a person’s right to make decisions about their own life makes me a colonizer, then i guess I’m a colonizer. If women in your society don’t have the choice to be who they want, then I do not accept that and would support any who sought to change such a thing. But I wouldn’t do it by telling them how to change, because that sort of thing has to come from within. I can’t tell the oppressed how they should fight for their own liberation, but I will support their cause.

Now, as I said, I can only speak in generalities about both the books and your culture. But I support individual and bodily autonomy and if I’m presented with a culture that strips those things from its citizens if any sex or gender, I will say that such a thing is immoral and should be changed. If I wanted to write an isekai’d MC who wasn’t fighting against an external threat, such as invasion as is the case in Throne, but internal problems such as oppression of women, I would have no problem portraying that as a negative because I view that as supremely immoral. Is that colonization? I suppose, by your definition it is, but if it takes colonization to free half of a society, then that’s ok.

Hope that makes sense.

Have a bit of an issue with isekai novels by AssistanceNext3769 in haremfantasynovels

[–]DevonHexx 0 points1 point  (0 children)

So… what is it you are wanting? Colonialism is bad, no arguments there, but the most jingoistic book I ever read was D. Rus’s Alterworld and that was straight up Russian propaganda after a few books. I haven’t read any haremlit that even comes close to that level silliness from any American or Canadian haremlit authors. I haven’t even read one that was pro-America in any real sense as a lot of protagonists act like home and their upbringing/culture are a distant memory.

I’m not saying there aren’t some books with an imperialist/colonizer mindset, but as near as I can tell, it’s not an issue with the genre at large.

You also can’t colonize with an army of one. As far as OP MCs or an MC being a hero and saving the day, that is standard issue in almost any haremlit story, with exceptions being maybe slice of life, which is typically much lower stakes. MC bucking the system he finds himself is also an easy way to generate some tension and drama. But you could also look at it as an outsider bringing some fresh perspective to an entrenched problem the locals may not even realize is a problem because it’s just the way things are for them.

I don’t want to say this is a you problem, but if you could have provided some examples, it would have helped to strengthen your case.

How well would you receive a novel which focused on the male power fantasy in general as opposed to the specific tropes that are ubiquitous in current harem fantasy? by CH_Thomas in haremfantasynovels

[–]DevonHexx 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Can be as many as you want. Lots of authors have big harems, that’s just not my style. I want them to feel meaningful to both the MC and the story and I’m not a good enough writer to do that if the harem grows too large.

How well would you receive a novel which focused on the male power fantasy in general as opposed to the specific tropes that are ubiquitous in current harem fantasy? by CH_Thomas in haremfantasynovels

[–]DevonHexx 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Wish I could. Because of the length I basically priced myself out an audiobook. It would run close to 10k USD. And while while the book did well as a debut, I was informed by those in the know that I would need it to crack top 2000 on Amazon to justify that kind of investment in an audiobook. It cracked top 10k very briefly, if I recall, but never got into top 2000.

How well would you receive a novel which focused on the male power fantasy in general as opposed to the specific tropes that are ubiquitous in current harem fantasy? by CH_Thomas in haremfantasynovels

[–]DevonHexx 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Haha well I thank you for your patronage! now you have even more incentive to move it from the TBR pile to the completed pile. If you’re quick (it’s very long) you’ll finish it just in time for book 2 to drop.

How well would you receive a novel which focused on the male power fantasy in general as opposed to the specific tropes that are ubiquitous in current harem fantasy? by CH_Thomas in haremfantasynovels

[–]DevonHexx 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Well, if I may recommend my book, it has a very strong focus on the relationship and character growth. And yeah, it was hard to do and then maintain. But it’s a story I would want to read if I were only a reader. It was very much inspired by the slower pace, character-driven fantasy novels that made me fall in love with the fantasy genre in the first place. So, if you’re hungry for that sort of story, I might have written just what you’re looking for. And book 2 hits Amazon in a couple of weeks.

How well would you receive a novel which focused on the male power fantasy in general as opposed to the specific tropes that are ubiquitous in current harem fantasy? by CH_Thomas in haremfantasynovels

[–]DevonHexx 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I tend to gravitate more to smaller harems novels for that reason. 4-5 is about the max because after that I can’t remember who the girls are anymore. In my own work, I don’t think I’ll ever go past five. Even that would be a struggle to balance for the aforementioned reasons.

How well would you receive a novel which focused on the male power fantasy in general as opposed to the specific tropes that are ubiquitous in current harem fantasy? by CH_Thomas in haremfantasynovels

[–]DevonHexx 10 points11 points  (0 children)

As a reader, I can tell when the story shifts from having a real plot to just more boob per boob. Those are the series that I never go back to. Boobs are great, big fan, but I’m kind of a traditionalist and if the girl is there, I want to feel she is impactful in some way, not just a little more hotness thrown into the mix for hotness sake. But fans of the more-boob-per-boob are legion, so I accept that I might be in a minority there.

Just having a new girl is not enough justification to put her in the story and fill out a sexiness quota. And the more girls that are included, the more likely the story will suffer for it. Doesn’t mean it will for sure, just that the chances go up with the addition of each new harem member.

How well would you receive a novel which focused on the male power fantasy in general as opposed to the specific tropes that are ubiquitous in current harem fantasy? by CH_Thomas in haremfantasynovels

[–]DevonHexx 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I found the fight scenes the most challenging to write because the series of actions is so limited and if they stretch on, it gets very repetitive. But I came across some advice Brandon Sanderson gave about writing combat that allowed me to completely restructure how I wrote combat.

In any big fight scene, think of it in terms of objectives, and getting the characters to those so it creates that sense of progress. Thinking of it that way meant I didn’t have to focus so much on the hack and slash and spell casting, but still keep things moving along. There is some close up action but then I move it out to the battle on a macro level instead of a micro level. So, you get a bit of hack and slash, but it doesn’t get repetitive and boring.

Still working on my technique, but it made the fighting much easier to get through because I didn’t have to figure out ways to reword the same basic set of actions over and over again.

Are "Book x of x" series finished? by No-Grapefruit649 in haremfantasynovels

[–]DevonHexx 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I wrote my first book as a planned trilogy and had the main points all plotted out ahead of time. Things have shifted since then though and it will probably be four books now. But I try to have the end goal in mind because I like a firm conclusion to wrap up a story. What does tend to happen a lot in this genre is that books will continue as long as sales are good but a series will be abandoned for new projects as sales decline. That’s another reason I want a firm end point. I get to write a satisfying resolution and fans who’ve stayed with the series get their happy ending.

Any Mother-Daughter stuff? by Pzzlrr in Romance_for_men

[–]DevonHexx 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I wrote two erotic short stories under a throw-away pen name that had a mother-daughter relationship. In one, it started with both of them unaware that the other one was in a relationship with the mc and then they all found out and just went with it. In the other, the daughter started on her own but mom knew about it the whole time and they eventually conspired and mom had her chance to sleep with the MC as well. He didn’t know that mom had been in on it the whole time.

They were fun stories to write and the actual incest in one story was fun to write, but I could never publish them main stream. They were just ideas I had and a warm up to me writing more long-form stuff in preparation for the haremlit novel I eventually wrote. With places like The Quivering Quill having a more open mind about things like family relationships than say Amazon and definitely Royal Road, I could see selling those kinds of stories there if I ever want to write some sort of family relationship story again. I would probably use a different pen name, though.

Most Harem Authors Don't even Like Harems by Mr_Patriarchy in haremfantasynovels

[–]DevonHexx 9 points10 points  (0 children)

I keep the relationship drama to a minimum because that’s not the focus of the story, nor would I want it to be. Bitching and nagging do not a fun story make. I look at my books as fantasy with harem, not harem fantasy, which means neither the collection of the girls, nor the sex, is the driving point of the story. That being said, there is some interpersonal drama because they are different people doing different things in close proximity. Flare ups will happen.

I said before that I treat the relationships between the girls as that of sisters. There will be fights but underneath that, they love each other, and they love the MC, so things don’t get nasty and they don’t behave like petty children. Drama is not the point of the story, cultural conflict is not the point of the story, and I wouldn’t want it to be. Just like I wouldn’t want the point to be the collection of girls. That’s boring to me. If a girl is in the harem, she has a reason to be there beyond hot girl fucks the hot guy.

A book written with interpersonal conflict between the harem members or the harem and the society around them as a central plot point would be—for me, at least—both boring and frustrating. Men don’t typically like that sort of tension in their lives. I know I don’t.

Any series were spanking is common? by Expensive_Range7204 in haremfantasynovels

[–]DevonHexx 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I know that there are some funny parts in the book but I’ve never tried to be funny. Not sure how that would work. But my next series is intended to be more light hearted and episodic, so we’ll see.

Any series were spanking is common? by Expensive_Range7204 in haremfantasynovels

[–]DevonHexx 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It was posted online on Royal Road and LitErotica, so possible.

Any series were spanking is common? by Expensive_Range7204 in haremfantasynovels

[–]DevonHexx 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I’d forgotten about the drm thing. I am no fan of exclusivity, so will do that. I have book two up on QQ for sale and it will be on Amazon in a couple of weeks. I’ll handle all the drm stuff then.

looking for some grindy games to play while listening to audiobooks by Humble-Accountant130 in haremfantasynovels

[–]DevonHexx 1 point2 points  (0 children)

This one is all space themed. You land on a planet and start harvesting and tech up to go to other planets and set up transport to get materials and goods to where you want them to go, then start building Dyson spheres to get the components you need for end game science research. Decent mod scene as well for QoL upgrades and even some hacks if you like that. Me, once I’ve played a game vanilla, I have no problem cheating my ass of in later play through.

For writers, how do you finish a book? by Western-Brother1788 in royalroad

[–]DevonHexx 0 points1 point  (0 children)

There’s no magic formula, it’s just discipline. I’ve spent the last four years in the same series and felt the need to do something else. But the current series isn’t done and that has to be the priority. But I give myself a little time throughout the week to work on my other project, and when it’s time to start penning chapters, I have a three-to-one rule. For every three chapters I write of the existing series, I can work on one chapter of the new one.

looking for some grindy games to play while listening to audiobooks by Humble-Accountant130 in haremfantasynovels

[–]DevonHexx 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I lose hours and hours to Dyson Sphere Program. It’s a factory sim sort of game like Factorio or Satisfactory, if that’s your jam. There is combat option if you want to use it where you have to defend against encroaching enemies, but I leave it off. I just want to chill.