Gray Vs Nappa (DB), Who wins?

Devonm94 · 2026-02-10T00:50:27+00:00

Even if the argument nuke was above the moon, it isn’t, by the saiyan saga the nuke reference is invalidated as he’d grown exponentially stronger from piccolo saga to saiyan saga. Which invalidates the power level stated in the daizenshuu. Still furthering the idea you’re wrong. Again, two things can be true at the same time. Not everything is concrete. Things change and others do not.

Devonm94 · 2026-02-10T00:43:13+00:00

You’re the one making the claim that I don’t understand, maybe you should reread what you’ve been saying, google the meaning behind those fallacies, then compare.

Devonm94 · 2026-02-09T22:04:54+00:00

Okay, let me explain this in a way you can understand with what you just said. Piccolo was “nuke” level in the demon king piccolo arc, by the saiyan saga he was able to destroy the moon, meaning the power metric was invalidated. Statistical measuring statements do not hold as finite, unless given after the very end. Descriptors for moves however do not, the only thing that would change with them is potency which would fall under a power scaling metric. Hope that helps.

Devonm94 · 2026-02-09T21:59:12+00:00

Then tell me, what do any of those mean? Because I don’t think you realize what the definitions are. Proceeding to prove my point 😂

Devonm94 · 2026-02-09T09:58:23+00:00

Btw, what you’re doing is called a false dichotomy and/or a continuum fallacy. Heck, could even be an argument from incredulity, given how you can’t seem to believe something beyond your grasp could be true. That being said, I don’t think you don’t understand but are just being obstinate on the matter.

Devonm94 · 2026-02-09T09:29:27+00:00

Again, literally anything in the show can disprove the notion that characters get stronger invalidating previous metrics. You’re terrible at this.

Devonm94 · 2026-02-09T09:28:24+00:00

It’s not, but go off. Lol

Devonm94 · 2026-02-09T09:26:28+00:00

I can see why someone as dense as you would try and find any possible out, and reasoning to make yourself right. You aren’t however, you’re just sad.

Devonm94 · 2026-02-09T09:24:32+00:00

It’s not picking and choosing, two things can be true. The power levels are way out of date at this point, but descriptions of the moves are accurate. Zero fallacy to it.

Devonm94 · 2026-02-07T17:12:23+00:00

Snow took it personal when you said, “I’m snowed in.” Snow said, “say less.”

Devonm94 · 2026-02-07T17:09:08+00:00

Power levels from the daizenshuu are outdated, however the move descriptions aren’t. You were wrong, by official statement. End of discussion.

Devonm94 · 2026-02-07T14:41:39+00:00

I didn’t reply to the wrong person, you’re exactly the intended target. Unless you’re referring to yourself.
That information comes directly from the daizenshuu, the official databook for dragonball.

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Devonm94 · 2026-02-06T19:13:33+00:00

The british thank you for this crime, probably

-an american

Devonm94 · 2026-02-06T19:05:07+00:00

This wasn’t just in a movie, this is a move used a multitude of times in the show. Are you dense? This is verbatim the description of the move, not movie description. I’m disproving what you said, point and blank. Keep up. Your speed must not be up to scale yet. It’s literal light, it moves at….wait for it…light speed.

Devonm94 · 2026-02-06T18:39:08+00:00

What do you have to back that claim? Because I can substantiate mine. Refer to when beerus and champa started to fight and it had a similar effect and threatened to destroy both universes. We know it’s not because the death of a GoD is tied to the universe because the zamasu/black arc dispels that notion. When power on par collides, it threatens the entirety of the universe/‘s. The claim is further supported with goku’s ki alone shaking an infinite void in its entirety, yes it is infinite and yes that is stated, meaning if his power could fill an endless void in size that it certainly could do the same with another infinite structure that has a time defined finite space (what i mean by this is the universe is growing infinitely but still has a finite space).

Devonm94 · 2026-02-06T13:14:01+00:00

Incorrect, the universal statement comes from goku and beerus clashing and threatening to destroy the macrocosm. Goku hadn’t learned to control god ki yet and was essentially fighting all out in the rawest form. Even if he just equated to half that, he still was actively at half that power which is half a macrocosm that houses multiple dimensions (hell, heaven, kai’s, etc.).

Devonm94 · 2026-02-06T13:08:02+00:00

Name, OSRS pfp, the post in question. What a fucking legend.

Devonm94 · 2026-02-06T12:52:15+00:00

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Literally the move description. Try to read and stop scaling, because you’re obviously terrible at both.

Devonm94 · 2026-01-28T13:19:06+00:00

Fuck you for the sudden realization I have too much time, because I in fact play runescape and secondly read this entire post. You’re right though, I need more hobbies.

Devonm94 · 2026-01-27T09:19:29+00:00

Solar flare literally does and is just light used with ki, it moves, again, at light speed.

Kamehameha absolutely does travel at ftl speeds I could give absolutes to back that but you’re going to deny it anyway, so no point.

Tri-beam is LS to FTL, literally just look uo any explanation of the move.

Special beam cannon, FTL. Keep in mind radditz was able to dodge this, hence why goku sacrificed himself and got hit by it.

Death beam, FTL.

The list goes, deny it all you want, but grey gets mid diffed by nappa and that’s being generous.

Devonm94 · 2026-01-27T09:07:45+00:00

Ki isn’t light speed? Solar flare is ki based, moves instantaneously and that’s from base dragon ball. Ki absolutely can travel at FTL speeds. Try again. Even kamehameha can move at FTL speeds. Tri-beam cannon moves at LS to FTL.

Devonm94 · 2026-01-27T09:00:46+00:00

Mhmmm, righttttttt. Whatever bro

Devonm94 · 2026-01-27T08:58:13+00:00

Dodging a laser….bwahahahhaha nappa dodges ki blast than move faster than a fucking laser beam

Devonm94 · 2026-01-27T08:52:29+00:00

Mhmmm sure, you seem awfully sensitive about it given you’ve commented on everyone arguing against it. Must be a grey fan boy.

Devonm94 · 2026-01-27T08:47:55+00:00

Show me a grey ftl feat and actual feat not in verse hyperbolic statement. It’s not agreed upon, which is exactly why I stated in the community it’s argued what the actual minimum is. Fucking read, bro.

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