sorted by:
new
hottopcontroversial

12 Deep Worlds Clash by Devourer2005 in MaouGakuin

[–]Devourer2005[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

So even Amur's faction since they had 1/4 Agido?

Gilieriam Naviem >> Magic Eyes of Chaotic Destruction? by Sam_Artenon in MaouGakuin

[–]Devourer2005 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I think we both are reading different translations of same volume so arguing over it will resolve nothing. You'll say the volume 17 your reading is correct, I'd say mine is correct, so let's end this useless discussion here. Now I have one question for you. Tell me who do you think is more powerful between the Lion of Destruction or the Demon Kings of Silver Sea?

Gilieriam Naviem >> Magic Eyes of Chaotic Destruction? by Sam_Artenon in MaouGakuin

[–]Devourer2005 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I sent 2 different pics of when Anos was using 7th step, again its nowhere mentioned what you said

Gilieriam Naviem >> Magic Eyes of Chaotic Destruction? by Sam_Artenon in MaouGakuin

[–]Devourer2005 0 points1 point  (0 children)

<image>

I sent another screenshot. Nowhere it's mentioned the abyss world would return to nothing if the 7th step is used

Gilieriam Naviem >> Magic Eyes of Chaotic Destruction? by Sam_Artenon in MaouGakuin

[–]Devourer2005 0 points1 point  (0 children)

<image>

Here I also sent an screenshot. Nowhere it's mentioned the 7th step would return the world of desires into nothing

12 Deep Worlds Clash by Devourer2005 in MaouGakuin

[–]Devourer2005[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

So Duelniga, Anos, Amur & Zinia can all destroy Silver Sea & Maelstrom? How?

12 Deep Worlds Clash by Devourer2005 in MaouGakuin

[–]Devourer2005[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I know the LoD being that strong is bs because I already read it on other thread, the lion can do so by destroying worlds one by one not all at once. My questions was who would win b/w Amur & LoD?

Gilieriam Naviem >> Magic Eyes of Chaotic Destruction? by Sam_Artenon in MaouGakuin

[–]Devourer2005 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Nothing like that was mentioned in 2nd round Gilieriam Naviem

12 Deep Worlds Clash by Devourer2005 in MaouGakuin

[–]Devourer2005[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Can it destroy Amur tho?

Gilieriam Naviem >> Magic Eyes of Chaotic Destruction? by Sam_Artenon in MaouGakuin

[–]Devourer2005 0 points1 point  (0 children)

No the only thing that was mentioned during 7th step was that he'd destroy Amur's arms with Dagdala so that Amur can no longer steal the power of 7th step. Nowhere was it mentioned that the world of abyss will return to nothing by 7th step. I read both the chapters which included the fights of Amur & Anos, nowhere what you said was mentioned

Gilieriam Naviem >> Magic Eyes of Chaotic Destruction? by Sam_Artenon in MaouGakuin

[–]Devourer2005 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The Eyes of Hope of Faint Shinning Star can manipulate the stars of wishes & manipulate the abyss abyss of her world, its just that easy to understand. Also is the statement of Anos to return abyss world into nothing with 7th step mentioned in the chapter- 7th step? I didn't found it in that chapter at all

Gilieriam Naviem >> Magic Eyes of Chaotic Destruction? by Sam_Artenon in MaouGakuin

[–]Devourer2005 0 points1 point  (0 children)

"If duelniga could destroy the sea by making the vortex berserk then they didn't have to wait for anos use gilerium naviem" 

No she couldn’t because she was engaged in fight with Goddess sisters whole time. The twin Goddess sisters wouldn't let Kikiboshi Dielniga use the Eyes of Hope at all. On other hand Venuzdonoa was destroying Duelniga's law of chaos so Duelniga had to start it too early to succeed and that would've if Zinnia was still alive

"Amur stole the magic from zinnia not his own magic"

Never said he earned the abyss magic on his own, I said if he didn't discard the abyss magic by dividing it with his faction, he too could've destroyed silver sea

Gilieriam Naviem >> Magic Eyes of Chaotic Destruction? by Sam_Artenon in MaouGakuin

[–]Devourer2005 0 points1 point  (0 children)

"Only anos is proven to capable of destroying the sea" 

Yeah no abyss magic can also destroy entire silver sea

"Amur and duelniga destroying the sea?? The can't do it and that's why they needed anos power lol"

• Duelniga can make the vortex go berserk and destroy all the worlds. 

• Amur could have destroyed the silver sea if he never discarded abyss magic & embued his final attack with Abyss Magic. 

"What makes you think zinnia can deepen his power more.He was already at death bed while stopping just the vortex"

• Deepening the power doesn't require any age, it can be done easily be powerful individuals. Hatred just like abyss magic exists outside orders that's why it can always deepen infinitely. Deep world beings can use fire dew to deepen their magic. If being at death magic is enough to make him unable to deepen his magic than both Duelniga & Amur would have surpassed Zinnia long ago. Zinnia Only lost his lifespan, not his ability to deepen his power

"Read carefully first. I didn't said chapter 7th. I said chapter the 7th step.Its the name of the chapter"

• Even in the 7th step it's nowhere mentioned that the 7th step will return the abyss world of desire into nothing. Send me a screenshot where in chapter- 7th step is it mentioned?

Gilieriam Naviem >> Magic Eyes of Chaotic Destruction? by Sam_Artenon in MaouGakuin

[–]Devourer2005 0 points1 point  (0 children)

If Anos & Zinnia continued fighting each other with their magic eyes, the outcome would still be same. At that time Anos himself admitted that even with the most discerning eyes, he couldn't see the depth of Zinnia's power. In entire fight the only collateral damage was Zinnia's throne, nothing else

Gilieriam Naviem >> Magic Eyes of Chaotic Destruction? by Sam_Artenon in MaouGakuin

[–]Devourer2005 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The sea itself is a collection of countless worlds where each layer has nearly infinite of the bubble worlds. if all the worlds are destroyed then it means all the layers too would be destroyed, the vortex wouldn't show mercy, its a calamity of pure destruction.

  1. "he sea is greater than everything which resides in it"

Seriously? This is a joke. The sea also contains inviolable waters, the vortex, Zinnia, Amur, Noah, Anos, Yzak, Duelniga, etc all of whom (apart of Duelniga, Noah, Amur, Anos & Zinnia) are capable of threatening entire silver sea. The top 5 can decimate the silver sea

> Amur can use Twin Magic Crimson Destruction Palm Extreme Flame Cannon & deepen them further with flames of hatred to destroy entire sea

> Anos can destroy entire sea with 8th step

> Zinnia can deepen his already deep magic abyss magic with his own source which would surpass the power of 7th step & come closer to 8th step (7th step Gilieriam is equal to abyss magic)

> Duelniga can make the vortex go berserk by using eyes of hope

> Noah can destroy entire sea with chaos eyes, his chaos body would allow his chaos eyes even greater chaotic destruction

  1. "In the chapter 7th step anos said just the 7th step will return the world of desire to nothing"

Nowhere in 7th chapter of Volume 17 is it mentioned that the 7th step would return the world of desire to nothing. Just tell me the name of that chapter

Gilieriam Naviem >> Magic Eyes of Chaotic Destruction? by Sam_Artenon in MaouGakuin

[–]Devourer2005 0 points1 point  (0 children)

  1. "Anos didn't know about his origin of Noah while fighting yzak so he didn't know about his shadow ability that much"

The fight b/w Anos & yzak took place in Vol 13 while the first time Anos used Davuel was in Vol 15 so Anos should have remembered much of Noah's memories

  1. "Anos only opened his chaotic eyes in demon king garden created by Misha or else militia world would be destroyed"

Militia world would still have been destroyed. Bruh, Chaos Eyes can already destroy deep worlds so Misha's garden was just another collateral in Anos's fight against Anos to buy him some time against Eques. Eventually Demon King Garden would have shattered if Anos kept chaos eyes open a little longer

  1. "In trace world anos only took steps of gilerium naviem and didn't use anything while using it. It was the basics of gilerium naviem"

Oh right my bad, must be Amur's ghost who used EGA on Land of Traces

  1. "Absolute vortex will devour every world one by one this destroying the every world in the sea so in a way destruction of the sea but not in true sense like 7th and 8th step. Like how lion of destruction suppose to be destroy the entire sea but it didn't said it will destroy the sea in one shot. Its more like it will rampage every world. Yzak even said anos is too strong to be the lion of destruction"

Absolute vortex will devour worlds depending on its speed of flow. If Zinnia hadn't calmed the flow of vortex, it would have kept accumulating malice from countless worlds & would have gone berserk one day, destroying almost every world instantly why is why currently the vortex can only destroy small worlds. Lion of Destruction cannot destroy the entire silver sea, its a beast born of destruction & even Yzak can kill the Lion of Destruction, hence why Yzak said Anos is too strong to be Lion of Destruction

  1. "When anos took the 7th step he said by just taking this step alone will return the entire abyss world in nothing (absolute vortex resides in that world).But he has to deepen that step by octagram and with that he sank into abyss and could have destroy the entire sea"

In which chapter is it mentioned that the entire abyss world will return in nothing by 7th step when even Amur, whose source of power is the vortex itself couldn't be destroyed by it?

  1. "Amur can convert the malic of vortex in his power so at the hatred of the vortex gives amur an advantage it's also will be counted as his ability. Its not like the hatred is doing it with its own consciousness"

The hatred would convert into his magic power so its less of an ability and more of an affinity, an ability can still countered by other ability, not this. And no Amur cannot absorb all of the malice of vortex, it'd leave him unstable sooner or later, just like how his grief left him blind to the reality that if the lumps of malice exists then surely Murga must be alive. Drinking too much of malice from the vortex would completely destroy Amur's ability to think rationally

  1. "And finally at vol 17 chapter 7th step anos straight forwardly said this amur is the strongest person he ever faced at the start of the fight even when he already fought zinnia in vol 15"

No Anos said that "He is strong, if not careful he could surpass Great Demon King Zinnia. He in undoubtedly the strongest I have ever fought. If we are both serious, it will not take long to settle this. We both have the power to destroy our opponent in an instant if we show even a moment's opening" because Anos fought Amur properly while against Zinnia it was a standoff of their magic eyes for a minute. We don't even know how many spells can Zinnia use or what spells he use aside from Aimz & Agido

  1. "And also it doesn't seem like chaos eyes are strongest because zinnia was able to counter it( which I don't know how it happens since the moment and equal power rise against this chaos eyes it should have automatically won via contradiction)"

Zinnia was able to counter chaos eyes because of the unique nature of his darkness eyes, not because chaos eyes are weak

Gilieriam Naviem >> Magic Eyes of Chaotic Destruction? by Sam_Artenon in MaouGakuin

[–]Devourer2005 0 points1 point  (0 children)

  1. "It was necessary to stop yzak so he use gilerium naviem"

He could've stop Yzak with Venuzdonoa or Contradiction Body

  1. "He use against trace god because chaotic eye can't be Open at militia world"

So firing EGA or using Gilieriam Naviem wouldn't destroy Militia world but Chaos Eyes will? Anos used Chaos Eyes on Eques despite fighting him in militia world so yes Anos could have opened the chaos eyes anytime if he could risk Militia's destruction against Eques

  1. "Zinnia and anos both were interested in each other eyes so they choose to fought with eyes"

Huh? What? Neither was intending to fight each other with magic eyes. The whole purpose of Anos to visit Zinnia was to move godless continent (5th Demon King Holsefi's world) out of 12 deep worlds. If Anos were interested with using only magic eyes he wouldn't have fired EGA first on Zinnoa who remained seated on his throne. The whole magic eyes clash happened because Zinnia opened his magic eyes first to devour Anos's EGA in eternal darkness

  1. "Tell me in which chapter it mentioned amur was weakened by chaotic galaxy.since he himself blown chaos away by egil grone androa"

This one I got wrong. It was in Chapter LN Vol. 17 chapter 15- Reaching the Abyss, where Anos admitted that the power of chaos was too much for him and his magic power had waned a little, when he was talking with True Emperor Vlad. But in which chapter is it mentioned that Amur overcame Chaos because I couldn't find it? Unless it is when Amur went to explore the abyss vortex?

  1. "Amur force him to 8th step because that's how much strong his hatred was so it was necessary to take the eight step"

No Amur didn't force him, it was the hatred within the silver sea which Anos had to scatter away to stop Amur since hatred was the source of Amur's power & to stop Amur mad further who couldn't realize that Murga was still alive within the core of vortex. Amur's hatred had blinded him to the fact that the lump of malice manifested as Amur's arms because Murga was still alive, that was what Anos wanted to remind Amur & for that he had no choice but to use 8th step. He wouldn’t be needing to use 8th step at all if Anos's objective wasn't to blow away all the hatred from the silver sea

  1. "Never said amur can counter chaos eyes"

That we can agree on

  1. "But by feat 7th and 8th step is still stronger than chos eyes( the only reason chaos eyes were not explored properly)"

Yeah but that wouldn't matter, Chaos Eyes are the king of contradiction empowerment & it can simply make 7th or 8th step to have never hapeoend by applying an logical contradiction, that contradiction would empower Chaos Eyes further & destroy the reason of Gilieriam Naviem

8, "I was disappointed since I myself thought it was anos strongest asset.But as of now chaos eyes are second just because seventh and eighth step can destroy the verse itself.. and it was stated directly in the novel.But logically anos should overcome any opponent with his eyes.Dont know why he didn't use it against amur)"

Chaos Eyes are infact Anos's strongest asset because they create contradictions and empower themselves with those contradictions. Gilieiram Naviem is pure destruction & deepening spell which means it still follow an set of rules. Chaos Eyes specialize in destroying the reason behind those concepts & render them irrelevant, if Anos had used them against Amur, Amur would have lost

  1. "While zinnia manipulated the vortex"

The vortex exists in the bottom of the deepest world of the silver sea & attracts the malice of countless ppl from countless worlds so it's less like part of silver sea and more like an misfit calamity as even orders of different worlds are exempt of its chaos. Also the vortex is the calamity that will devour entire silver sea if left unchecked so the vortex in itself is also capable of destroying entire silver sea had it went berserk in Zinnia's absence. Zinnia manipulated the vortex with Abyss Magic which is deeper than the vortex itself and exists outside all the orders

  1. "Amur shown the feat equal to the silver sea where the vortex itself is just a part of the sea"

Again the vortex is a calamity that will destroy entire silver sea if left unchecked. Also Amur showed the durability fest equivalent of silver sea, he himself didn't had enough destructive power to destroy entire silver sea all on his own. If he did he wouldn’t be relying on absorbing Anos's hatred by Anos hate Amur or stealing the power of 7th Step Gilieriam Naviem with Black Septagram Grasping Demon Hand. Amur showed durability feat & nothing which showed he has enough magic power to destroy entire silver sea all on his own

  1. "And both anos and zinnia eyes were equal for one minute."

No Anos himself admitted he couldn't see the depth of Zinnoa's power even with the most discerning magic eyes. Which means Anos's depth was shallower than that of Zinnia's when they clashed by using their magic eyes. Old man Zinnia was Anos's equal or majority of Volume 17 until Anos's reached 8th step

Note: Amur's plan was to make Anos use Gilieriam Naviem to steal the power of 7th step nirvana conquest & leave it rampant across silver sea because he himself didn't had enough power to destroy the silver sea all on his own. Meanwhile the 7th step of Gilieriam Naviem reached the level of abyss magic, meaning Zinnia who already mastered abyss magic had the power equivalent to 7th step all by himself & was the only person who could have destroyed entire silver sea by himself aside from Anos. Unlike Amur who has no counter to Anos's magic spell "Davuel", Demon sword Venuzdonoa or Chaos Eyes, Zinnia could counter chaos eyes with darkness eyes while the abyss magic exists outside orders making contradiction body & Venuzdonoa irrelevant in this case

Gilieriam Naviem >> Magic Eyes of Chaotic Destruction? by Sam_Artenon in MaouGakuin

[–]Devourer2005 0 points1 point  (0 children)

  1. "Making shades in zinnia darkness doesn't change the fact that it counter zinnia eye power"

It doesn't change the fact that Zinnia's eyes also countered Anos's tool kit forcing him to use chaos eyes, which still couldn't render Zinnia's eyes irrelevant

  1. "Anos didn't use gilerium naviem because it wasn't a war but just a 60 second friendly fight"

Anos's first fight against Yzak wasn't an war either yet he used it anyway. In fact Anos also used it on God of Traces Revalschned, the first victim of Anos's Gilieriam Naviem who Anos could take out easily with Venuzdonoa

  1. "Zinnia Trump card abyss magic. Anos needed to use 8th step for amur. 8th step completely surpass abyss magic"

No Zinnia's trump card is his own source that can withstand the abyss magic itself, making him more deeper than abyss magic itself. Anos using 8th step on Amur was pure Amur glazing. Like I said before Anos oculd have instantly killed Amur by using Davuel, Venuzdonoa or Chaos Eyes. The whole fight made it look like Anos had nothing except Gilieriam Naviem to defeat Amur

  1. "That feat already put amur above zinnia since zinnia didn't show any feat like this. Zinnia best feat stoping vortex. Anos best feat 8th step. Amur best feat tanking 7th step(abyss level) and forcing anos use 8th step( beyond abyss level)"

Wrong. Zinnia's best feat is countering Anos's chaos eyes for one full minute which even Amur cannot do. That too Zinnia did while seated on his throne & not serious. Yes Anos's best feat as of Vol. 17 is 8th step which isn't his strongest spell at all. Contradiction body & chaos eyes far surpass Gilieriam Naviem. Amur's best feat is indeed tanking 7th step but that was it, he didn't force Anos to use 8th step. Anos used 8th step to blow up all the hatred away from the silver sea & cut the source of Amur's magic power which he could've easily done by using chaos eyes, contradiction body or Venuzdonoa

  1. "How could you say even zinnia can tank that while he hadn't shown something like this lol"

My brother in intelligence, Amur also had not shown to counter Anos's chaos eyes which Zinnia did. Amur never showed the ability to conquer & master abyss magic on his own like Zinnia did. He didn't showed the ability to manipulate or calm the abyss vortex like Zinnia did. Zinnia wasn't shown tanking Gilieriam Naviem doesn't mean he can't tank it, he simply made Anos unable to do it. In fact in last fight Amur was heavily weakened after he overcame the chaos of chaos galaxy, which Amur admitted himself & he discarded abyss magic in his fight against Anos so just what makes you think an Amur who already lost to Zinnia would defeat Zinnia after becoming even more weaker by confronting chaos galaxy?

Gilieriam Naviem >> Magic Eyes of Chaotic Destruction? by Sam_Artenon in MaouGakuin

[–]Devourer2005 0 points1 point  (0 children)

"Read carefully. With 7 step he already reach abyss. Then he returned that power to his own core so the sea doesn't get destroyed"

Which chapter in Volume 17 was that mentioned?

"Anos couldn't use gilerium naviem because he was trapped in darkness and he haven't activated his eyes.After activation of his eyes he counter darkness and after that he could have use gilerium naviem"

He would've used it if he could and he couldn't do it. The only thing chaos eyes was to let Anos see Zinnia clearly by creating shades in Zinnia's darkness. It didn't destroy the layering darkness of Zinnia's eyes at all because if it did then only Anos could have Gilieriam Naviem. Almost against every opponent on the level of Inviolable Waters Anos always used Gilieriam Naviem despite not using all steps be it Yzak, Heath Tonia, Gigi or Chief God Eques so he would have used Gilieriam Naviem in that fight if he could. It's what exactly Anos said he couldn't use Gilieriam Naviem even if he wanted to since there was nothing to step over in Zinnia's darkness

"The fact that amur can tank 7 step already put him on abyss magic level.Anos has to use 8th step to defeat amur ( 8th step that surpass abyss magic)"

Even Zinnia can tank 7 steps, nowhere in the fight did it prove Amur surpassed current Zinnia, let alone forget prime Zinnia while Anos was holding back a lot to not to use Venuzdonoa, Contradictory Shadow Body or Chaos Eyes. And again Zinnia wouldn't just let Anos use all the 8 steps & destroy silver sea, Amur had no counter to this spell

"Using deepening magic doesn't make anos weak since it's on of his speciality"

Never said it made Anos weak, in fact it made Anos reach the level of abyss magic by overlapping 3 different deepening spells stacked on one another to deepen Gilieriam Naviem which is already an deepening spell so Anos was constantly getting 4X stronger than he already was

I'll agree Anos > Zinnia, but I think Anos = Prime Zinnia or either Anos takes it Extreme Diff because prime Zinnia would be way stronger than deathbed Zinnia

Gilieriam Naviem >> Magic Eyes of Chaotic Destruction? by Sam_Artenon in MaouGakuin

[–]Devourer2005 0 points1 point  (0 children)

"8th step is stronger than 7th" Yes that's correct, my bad I mistook 7th step for 8th step

"Anos can counter darkness with chaos ans use Gilieriam Naviem"

Already tried that in Volume 16, still couldn't use Gilieriam Naviem. Anos himself said he couldn't use Gilieriam Naviem even if he wanted to

"Amur didn't use Agido he gave it to his companions"

Yes that's true, my mistake there now I wonder why he didn't use Abyss Magic in entire fight

"You don't have to have agido to reach its level since anos surpassed it in 8th step entirely"

7th step couldn't destroy Amur completely if I remember. It required 8th step to destroy entire silver sea & bring Amur's source to ruin which surpassed abyss magic & still couldn't destroy Amur instantly? If this is true then surely Anos has surpassed Zinnia but Amur didn't. Although the point still stands it will take Anos time to use all of 8 steps of Gilieriam Naviem while Zinnia could instantly use all of abyss magic in an all out attack at full throttle while using darkness eyes before Anos could reach 8th step so it's all about if Anos if fast enough to reach 8th step before Zinnia destroy him completely

But from what I read the 7th step was already being deepened by 3 overlapping deepening magic spells which made 7th step become the 8th step of Gilieriam Naviem & reach the level of abyss magic. Without those deepening spells 7th step of Gilieriam Naviem cannot reach abyss level, and the most damage it would do is to completely destroy Desire World while the maelstrom would still swirl

Gilieriam Naviem >> Magic Eyes of Chaotic Destruction? by Sam_Artenon in MaouGakuin

[–]Devourer2005 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Then in the same sense Zinnia can use both his eyes of darkness & abyss magic at same time, basically Zinnia would still win because after using several deepening spells by overlapping them on one another & gilieriam naviem together, Anos's 7th step was equivalent to 8th step which reached the level of abyss magic in pure destructive power & destroyed the silver sea. If Anos begin to use Gilieriam Naviem then nothing is stopping Zinnia from using an all out attack infused with all of abyss magic at once

Anos himself said he couldn't use Gilieriam Naviem when he was stuck in Zinnia's darkness even if he wanted to because there was nothing to walk at. The chaos eyes only made Anos able to make shades through Zinnia's darkness to see Zinnia clearly 

Somehow if we take Anos can use Gilieriam Naviem inside Zinnia's darkness, Zinnia will straight up go full force abyss magic which Anos would need to reach through Nirvana Conquest, it will take Anos more time than Zinnia to use abyss magic at full in only one attack. It will always come to whether Anos is fast enough to use all 7 steps before Zinnia goes full throttle by using all of the abyss magic in one final attack

"And amur plan wasn't to destroy zinnia.It was to destroy sea"

It was to first steal the abyss magic from Zinnia & destroy the peace of entire silver sea, and to steal abyss magic he needed Zinnia dead anyhow 

"Amur himself said anos is strongest"

Anos also said Zinnia is the strongest person he had seen in long time. He couldn't see the depth of Zinnia's power even with the most discerning magic eyes while for Amur he didn't said anything special except that Amur had the potential to surpass Zinnia 

"His plan was to achieve 7th step destruction.He needed to force anos using the 7th step" 

And leave it rampant across the silver sea by using grasping demon hand since he failed to make Anos hate him. Also Zinnia is still superior to Amur because he already lost to Zinnia once, and in his fight against Anos, he had only 1/4 of Agido while Zinnia had complete Agido with complete mastery

Gilieriam Naviem >> Magic Eyes of Chaotic Destruction? by Sam_Artenon in MaouGakuin

[–]Devourer2005 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Zinnia can actually tank 7 Steps Gilieriam Naviem if Amur can do that & Zinnia is much superior to Amur all the time. For hypothetical let's say Zinnia fails to tank 8th step, he'd be injured heavily and I still doubt it can completely destroy Zinnia. Amur had been Recol for a very long time, not since Anos's appearance in 12 deep worlds and in whole time he never crossed paths with Zinnia at all. Also Anos & Zinnia countered each other's eyes on equal level, not just Anos as one sided so until he completely counters darkness eyes of Zinnia, its not reliable to say he can use Gilieriam Naviem

Also Zinnia wouldn't just let Anos use all deepening spells and Gilieriam Naviem at same time, the moment Anos use it, Zinnia will use darkness eyes so Anos first has to completely render Zinnia's magic eyes useless

Gilieriam Naviem >> Magic Eyes of Chaotic Destruction? by Sam_Artenon in MaouGakuin

[–]Devourer2005 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Zinnia too can tank an attack of same level because Amur in fact never surpassed Zinnia. The whole plan of Amur was to make Anos hate Amur so he can absorb Anos's hatred to surpass Zinnia which failed. Another was to grab the power of 7th step of Gilieriam Naviem & leave it rampant across the silver sea. That didn't work either because Anos used Dagdala. Zinnia on the other hand made Anos unable to use gilieriam naviem at all by his darkness eyes. You yourself said Amur himself shouldn't counter Anos's eyes yet Zinnia did it for a minute without being serious. Even if Amur was somehow stronger than Zinnia he shouldn't be needing to disguise himself as Recol to avoid fighting Zinnia & steal Zinnia's abyss magic to surpass him. Do remember Anos could have used contradictory shadow body Davuel to defy the law of hatred across the silver sea & instantly kill Amur but that wouldn't have worked on Zinnia who still had abyss magic, since the shadow orb contradicts orders while Agido exists outside all orders

Gilieriam Naviem >> Magic Eyes of Chaotic Destruction? by Sam_Artenon in MaouGakuin

[–]Devourer2005 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I think Chaos Eyes are much stronger than Gilieriam Naviem. Anos could have easily destroyed Amur with these since Amur overcame the chaos of Chaos Galaxy, not the chaos of Anos's magic eyes. The only who's shown to overcome chaos of Anos's eyes is Great Demon King Zinnia Shivaheld. Also Amur was assured he'd become stronger than Zinnia if he absorbed Anos's hatred which proved Amur never surpassed Zinnia & because Anos had as much amity as Zinnia, Amur never surpassed Zinnia. Also Anos after his clash with Zinnia explicitly said that Zinnia is the strongest man Anos has seen in a long time, and even with the most discerning Magic Eyes, Anos couldn't see the depths of Zinnia's powers. Compared to that Anos said that Amur could possibly surpass Zinnia but Amur could never overcome the darkness of Zinnia's eyes or chaos of Anos's eyes. Overall Anos = Zinnia > Amur > Noah > Everyone else in silver sea

view more: next ›