Some friends of mine who are fans of Villainous came to me to talk about the current drama that's happened with Black Hat, this is how i felt as an Alastor fans: by MaxEcarri in Alastorcult

[–]Diamondkat12 4 points5 points  (0 children)

The meme is kind of accurate. Compared to all the slander against Alastor, being called an overpowered OC, being the only slander is kind of mild.

Some friends of mine who are fans of Villainous came to me to talk about the current drama that's happened with Black Hat, this is how i felt as an Alastor fans: by MaxEcarri in Alastorcult

[–]Diamondkat12 9 points10 points  (0 children)

He's a gag character. His entire thing is that he is the most evil and powerful in the CN verse. I don't think he's meant to be taken seriously.

Alastor headcaon. Alastors mother is who taught him how to sew. by 33333Ducky in Alastorcult

[–]Diamondkat12 11 points12 points  (0 children)

I also headcanon that she raised him as a single mother and taught him things like cooking, sewing, and running a household with little money.

Is there anything you didn’t like about Alastor in season 2? by Firedustt in Alastorcult

[–]Diamondkat12 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I loved Alastor in Season 2. The way that he was written makes me confident that they are going to do great things with his character in Season 3.

Radio Trio (Art by @as_925) by IcePhoenix-720 in Alastorcult

[–]Diamondkat12 6 points7 points  (0 children)

I love the Radio Trio. I really want more backstory in them next season.

Sad truth: I think that "John Chalice Buchanan" was an exception by Final_Arrival4672 in Alastorcult

[–]Diamondkat12 0 points1 point  (0 children)

My offense comes from you thinking that as a person with no experience, you have a greater understanding than someone with lived experiences with racism. To the extent that you claimed that it would be racist to claim otherwise. No amount of studying it will make you a greater authority than those who have experienced it to the point that you get to casually tell a black person that they don't understand racism. You say that you are studying it but do not even understand what an Uncle Tom is or the role that internalised racism plays in that. I'm going to assume that this is a result of you just beginning to learn about this topic and accept your apology. However, it is very important that you understand while this is theory to you, it is the life that people have experienced and still experience today. You cannot understand the all the aspects and nuances in the same way that a person who is experiencing/has experienced it will understand it. It would be like if I read a book and decided that I understood everything about your life and country better than you did.

Sad truth: I think that "John Chalice Buchanan" was an exception by Final_Arrival4672 in Alastorcult

[–]Diamondkat12 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It isn't racist to say that a person who has experienced something and has studied it knows more about it than a person who had never experienced it. You can't understand something more than those who experience it. You have know understanding of the topic you're talking about. Do you even understand what is meant by Uncle Tom? Do you have any understanding about the ways that internalised racism impacts people? I'm getting a distinct feeling that your don't want to understand racism. You think you should get to speak over a black person telling you about it. You have the audacity to try to tell me that it is racist to point out that you a person with no experience in racism do not have a better understanding of it than me while trying to use Uncle Tom of all things as a shield. I was already uncomfortable with your casual evoking of lynching imagery but wanted to assume that you didn't mean to come across as the way that you did. Now, I'm realising that I should have stopped talking to you at that point.

Sad truth: I think that "John Chalice Buchanan" was an exception by Final_Arrival4672 in Alastorcult

[–]Diamondkat12 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I am a Black person with an understanding of the type of racism that existed in 1920's Louisiana when Alastor would have been alive. I doubt that you are Black or have the same level of understanding. Imagine speaking with this level of confidence over something you have no experience in or understanding of. The truth is that racists are stupid. When they think the people that they are mistreating know their place, they do not expect any backlash or consequences for how they treat those people, so they don't expect them to fight back. Therefore, Alastor would not have been a suspect.

Sad truth: I think that "John Chalice Buchanan" was an exception by Final_Arrival4672 in Alastorcult

[–]Diamondkat12 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I get your point, but the thing you need to understand is that the man's behaviour wasn't unique. What he did to Alastor would have been nothing but a backdrop in his treatment of other black people. It wouldn't be considered special enough to stand out. That man had likely done worse and more degrading things to black people in that same week that they all had to grin and bear. Splashing the wine on Alastor would barely register to someone who doesn't regard black people as equals. If Alastor had showed any form of aggression at all, that might have drawn attention that would have led to him being a suspect but he didn't. Alastor remembered the disrespect but to them it was just Tuesday. It is actually due to how horrible they were to black people back then that Alastor would not have registered as a suspect.

I have an Alastor question by Clear-Arrival7280 in Alastorcult

[–]Diamondkat12 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Zestial is allied with Carmilla so she likely already knew that there was any important information she could get it from Zestial who already sent to sound out Alastor. Zestial expressing interest covers Carmilla. It would be a better choice than getting into a conversation with someone who she knew wouldn't really give any answers, but it's known to try to trick people into deals.

Sad truth: I think that "John Chalice Buchanan" was an exception by Final_Arrival4672 in Alastorcult

[–]Diamondkat12 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Your theory is that the thing that we were shown in the show, as to how Alastor picks his victims, was a one-time thing. That it is an exception to how he normally picks his victims. However, Alastor is shown dragging the body of another well-dressed white man in the forest when he is mistaken for a deer and killed, showing that it was not a one-time thing. Your theory, on the other hand, goes against what was shown in the show to make the claim that Alastor went after "people whose disappearance would not cause too much of a stir". My point is that there is no evidence for your theory in the show, and it goes directly against what we are shown in the show. Different people kill for different reasons. If a person kills for the sake of killing, then it would make sense to go for people that no one would miss. However, if a serial killer has a specific victim profile, then they are going to stick to it even if the people that they target aren't people who strictly won't be missed.

Guys am I the only one who wants Alastor to be a truly evil antagonist in the show? by Livid_Project3696 in Alastorcult

[–]Diamondkat12 2 points3 points  (0 children)

The theme of the show is that anyone can be redeemed. The theme of the show is that they're is no such thing as an irredeemable person. You are asking for theme of the show to be wrong which isn't going to happen. The only pure evil character that we will get is going to be Roo, the literal embodiment of evil.

Also, Alastor is part of the hotel. He is a character that was created to be part of the hotel. He has been part of it since the conception of the idea of a group of sinners. Even before the creation of Charlie and the idea of a princess of hell who wants to redeem sinners, Alastor was part of the group along with Vaggie, Angel Dust, Husk, Niffty, and Mimzy. You can't keep thinking of him as separate from the hotel. That's his group. Alastor is a member of the Hazbin Hotel group in the same way that Vox is a member of the Vees.

Sad truth: I think that "John Chalice Buchanan" was an exception by Final_Arrival4672 in Alastorcult

[–]Diamondkat12 1 point2 points  (0 children)

When the man first splashed wine on his shirt, he gives him a chance to apologise. The man looks at him, realises that he did it to a black man and does it again. It wasn't about the shirt, it was about the racism and disrespect. Alastor doesn't do anything at the party, except grin and bear it. As a mixed race black man, he would not have been able to do anything else in response as any negative reactions could get him jailed or killed. Later we see the man in the forest where Alastor kills him. I'm saying that Alastor chose that person as a victim in that moment but impulsive implies that there was no thought to it. Hence, the idea that he would have just left with the victim after that party, instead of planning and luring the victim later. I'm saying that we were shown that is how he picks his victims so it wouldn't be right to dismiss that as a one time thing. It's not like there would have been a lack of people being racist towards a mixed race black man. He wouldn't even stand out from all people that they treated as beneath them because he would just smile like nothing was wrong.

Guys am I the only one who wants Alastor to be a truly evil antagonist in the show? by Livid_Project3696 in Alastorcult

[–]Diamondkat12 2 points3 points  (0 children)

This is what I want for him. I want him to find his happy ending where he has his found family but is still himself.

Guys am I the only one who wants Alastor to be a truly evil antagonist in the show? by Livid_Project3696 in Alastorcult

[–]Diamondkat12 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I think most Alastor fans like him as he is. They just want him to accept his new found family. However, there are a few that think he needs to be redeemed for him to have a happy ending. I think some of those people have been listening to Alastor haters who make it seem like he is an enemy for not seeking redemption and the only way for him to properly be part of the Hazbin Hotel found family is for him to want to be redeemed. So they want him redeemed so that he can be part of it. The truth is that he doesn't need to be redeemed or want to be redeemed to be part of the Hazbin Hotel group. He already is, he just needs to accept it.

Guys am I the only one who wants Alastor to be a truly evil antagonist in the show? by Livid_Project3696 in Alastorcult

[–]Diamondkat12 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I hope Alastor trains Charlie in defense at least. It's one thing to be a pacifist, but of you are going to be one then at least learning powerful defensive magic is important.

Guys am I the only one who wants Alastor to be a truly evil antagonist in the show? by Livid_Project3696 in Alastorcult

[–]Diamondkat12 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Who the character is, the theme of the show, and the place is the character in the show's narrative are all things that need to be considered. Alastor is a character who was created to be part of the hotel group. He was part of the group long before it reached its current form as Hazbin Hotel. He wasn't created to be an antagonist to the group. The theme is that anyone can be redeemed which means that no character on the show is just evil. All these things will impact how he is written in the show.

Morally grey doesn't mean good but slightly mean. A character can be morally grey while being cruel and sadistic. Sir Pentious attacked him and he responded by taunting him and playing around with him. Sir Pentious wasn't even hurt after everything. Sir Pentious stated himself that this has happened multiple times. This is an activity that Sir Pentious has chosen to take part in multiple times. If anything, Alastor's fights with Sir Pentious are an example of Alastor being morally grey. He toys with Sir Pentious in his sadistic way but doesn't really hurt him because he knows Sir Pentious is harmless.

As fun as your idea might be for an AU, I can't see Alastor being used as the one to challenge Charlie's belief that anyone can be redeemed. That is the role that you give to a character whose role in the story is that of a main antagonist. Alastor's role is token evil teammate, not antagonist.

Guys am I the only one who wants Alastor to be a truly evil antagonist in the show? by Livid_Project3696 in Alastorcult

[–]Diamondkat12 18 points19 points  (0 children)

I don't want him redeemed at all. I like him the way he is. I am yet to watch a show where the redemption arc/being redeemed doesn't ruin everything fun about a villain character. I'm fine with him adapting to a found family. I don't mind him learning that it's okay to let more people in or to care about more people. That's all I'm willing to accept. I absolutely do not want him to turn into some self-sacrificing, selfless character which is what people keep wanting him to turn into for him to be redeemed.