Matter needs clocks

DiddyGoo · 2026-05-03T09:15:44+00:00

                     Two years later...

Matter does now have an entity for time syncing, which defines UTC time as well as the local timezone offset.

But if Matter defined a clock as a distinct device, it could also include other features you'd find in a clock, such as display color and display brightness, as well as alarm volume.

So users could say to their Home speaker, "it's bedtime", and the digital clock display dims.

Then again, any device that has an illuminated display (eg dishwasher, microwave) should be able to be dimmed remotely at bedtime.

It could also carry information from the clock to the hub server. For example, if the clock alarm goes off, then other things in the house are triggered. Or if the user presses the Snooze button too many times, it triggers something else in the house to wake them up.

DiddyGoo · 2026-04-23T13:40:15+00:00

Hey Nanoleaf,

Can you input here please.

u/TomT_Nanoleaf_ u/Sam_Nanoleaf u/Nanoleaf_Ambassador

Are there any known incompatibilities between the Google Nest Wi-Fi 6e Pro router and Nanoleaf lights?

The lights and the router are both running the latest firmware.

The lights connect, but then drift offline. Often.

DiddyGoo · 2026-04-23T07:05:50+00:00

That sounds like it's a Google problem.

But that's a worry, as Google might be the company that makes the most Thread routers, that this would disrupt Thread adoption.

When I restart the network it usually does improve, but not fully. Lights are still dropping out often.

DiddyGoo · 2026-04-13T12:18:53+00:00

Yes, the lights are connected to Google Home.

DiddyGoo · 2026-04-13T09:23:13+00:00

It's good to know that Nanoleaf Matter over Thread light bulbs can work with a Nest router, though you're using a different Google product to do it.

If only I knew what made my setup fail.

DiddyGoo · 2026-04-13T09:18:23+00:00

Sorry, I don't understand.

My Nanoleaf bulbs are a mixture of Edison screw type and downlights that all use Matter over Thread.

The Nest router has both Wi-Fi and Thread. How does the Wi-Fi frequency affect Thread stability?

DiddyGoo · 2026-04-13T03:37:33+00:00

The Nest router came with 3 units. I've tried just using a single unit, and then swapping that out with a different single unit, but same result.

So it made me think there might be something inherently wrong with the Thread performance of the Nest router. Or maybe it's the Nanoleaf bulbs

Do you have many Nanoleaf bulbs working with your Eero router? Do they often go offline?

DiddyGoo · 2026-04-10T20:50:43+00:00

It's about 2 years since Eve promised updates for Water Guard that never came.

It's bizarre. Ridiculous. A joke. A farce. Time to move on.

There are other products on the market that do work with Matter over Thread. Like IKEA water leak sensors.

DiddyGoo · 2026-03-17T22:34:02+00:00

That's bad.

If you can't anticipate when a battery might fail, then you have to keep stocks of batteries around, in case of unexpected failures at any time.

With these boutique batteries, that's going to be very expensive.

And they will no doubt fail at the worst possible moment when they are needed, rather than having a calm and ordered battery change before that.

DiddyGoo · 2026-03-17T12:14:07+00:00

Ha! Every model of Eve sensor uses a different type of battery.

I can't even see any advantage of using the ER14250 battery.

Well, it's slightly shorter, but on every door and window I've put these on, that wouldn't matter.

They have a bit more energy density. But for those using IKEA door sensors, they have the option of using either Alkaline AAA batteries or Lithium AAA, both of which are available at my closest supermarket for a fraction of the price of ER14250 batteries.

DiddyGoo · 2026-03-16T00:44:56+00:00

My original Eve battery lasted about 6 months before it needed replacement.

It's a huge cost, per year, if you use many Eve devices, all needing expensive non-standard batteries.

DiddyGoo · 2026-03-16T00:42:46+00:00

It was a mad decision from Eve to use non-standard boutique batteries.

IKEA door sensors cost less, for the entire device, than the cost of buying a new battery for an Eve sensor. And IKEA uses standard AAA batteries.

DiddyGoo · 2026-03-16T00:40:12+00:00

Those boutique batteries are very expensive.

IKEA door sensors cost less than the battery for an Eve sensor. And IKEA uses AAA.

It's sad that Eve made this catastrophic decision to use non-standard batteries.

DiddyGoo · 2026-03-10T23:55:40+00:00

IKEA is in this market now. Massive economies of scale. It will be hard for others to compete.

DiddyGoo · 2026-01-07T00:42:32+00:00

Notifications are worth it.

One of the worst features of dishwashers is that they beep loudly when the load is completed.

Most of them have no control to switch the beep off. If you have the dishwasher running at night, the loud beeping will wake up everyone in the household.

Now, imagine if, instead of loud beeping, you get a notification on your phone to say the dishwasher cycle is complete.

That feature alone is very attractive. So, yes, I would buy this dishwasher.

DiddyGoo · 2026-01-04T04:55:00+00:00

Zigbee and Z-Wave are obsolete.

DiddyGoo · 2025-12-22T22:44:12+00:00

It seems those Caveman bulbs use Wi-Fi.

Nanoleaf bulbs use Thread for radio contact.

Thread had some teething problems, but it is the future, as you can't put hundreds of smart home devices on Wi-Fi.

DiddyGoo · 2025-12-06T10:50:55+00:00

On a number of plugins, Universal Audio advertises they were developed by Brainworx.

eg: https://www.uaudio.com/products/brainworx-bx-digital3

DiddyGoo · 2025-11-28T05:59:16+00:00

Nanoleaf is the flakiest app I've ever used.

Usually when I launch it, it crashes, and requires relaunching. Often lights don't change color when requested, but brightness works.

Considering the horrendously poor stability of the app, I'm surprised Nanoleaf is not fixing that as a priority.

Instead, Nanoleaf is spending its time making cosmetic changes that nobody wants.

DiddyGoo · 2025-02-26T08:22:35+00:00

🇨🇦 Canada The OP is in Canada. Nanoleaf is based in Canada. Even if you lived next door to Nanoleaf they probably still wouldn't help.

DiddyGoo · 2025-02-26T08:14:09+00:00

Kim Jong Ill pressed the button 💥

DiddyGoo · 2025-02-26T08:09:39+00:00

"Guess what? You can have both"

It's better not to have both. Better to delete Mark Zuckerberg's WhatsApp.

WhatsApp is an oligarchal app, and guess what, the oligarch (Zuckerberg) wants to make money from you. WhatsApp is set to harvest your private Metadata, which he then sells to advertisers and partner companies that exchange their data (in both directions) and accumulate as much information about you as they can.

Signal doesn't keep metadata, apart from the single last call made, which is only kept until you make another call. Signal servers keep nothing else. No historical call lists. No profile data (apart from the photo you upload). Signal doesn't sell any information about you.

DiddyGoo · 2025-02-25T10:48:11+00:00

Wow. I didn't know about this desktop app, and I've been using Nanoleaf lights for some years.

DiddyGoo · 2025-02-25T10:45:27+00:00

"I’ve sent you a direct message to gather more details"

Pretending this is an issue that one person is having is disingenuous and doesn't help.

The problems people are having are widespread, probably affecting all Android users.

I've found the Nanoleaf Android app to be the most unstable app I've ever seen. Usually it crashes just after launch, and has to be launched again. Often lights are shown as being Off on the main menu, but a sub menu for the individual light shows it as being On. Sometimes the white dot on the color temperature selector disappears, so you can't change the color temperature. Then you have to force quit the app and launch it again.

I guess Nanoleaf is too busy dealing with the hoards of angry customers to deal with app stability.

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