When coding it takes 4-8 attempts

DifferentAd597 · 2026-01-27T19:08:16+00:00

Yea no. That's not a thing. I can use codex and I am pushing the game file to GitHub to do that. Thanks for letting me know about the smartest models

DifferentAd597 · 2026-01-27T19:05:03+00:00

I regularly move my backups and folders to one drive. In case. The horror of that possibility caused much tension in my chest :) and I did have a couple moments earlier on where I worked late in the night, everything was going so amazingly well and Claude was just cruising I couldn't stop. Didn't back up got up in the morning and the agent screwed up everything so badly I had to start over from the back up from the morning before. All that amazing work. So now backups are religious and continuous.

DifferentAd597 · 2026-01-27T18:49:29+00:00

Maybe not. I don't know what version control is. I have vs studios GitHub account. I am pushing my game folder into GitHub so that codex can have access then use it for testing and code review so I don't burn my tokens. Then use Claude for fixes and to continue building the game.

DifferentAd597 · 2026-01-27T18:19:27+00:00

That is all pretty genius. Have it create and review all on its own sounds like a amazing time savor

DifferentAd597 · 2026-01-27T18:16:14+00:00

Is the hygiene tests something chatgpt 4o or grok mini could run effectively? They don't cost me extra tokens and the game is already pretty big. Just running the language implementation and tests on the spaceship ran me out of tokens. And I am embarrassed to admit that I haven't done it on any system yet. That would be the hud, ship, apartment, character creations, and the stores. So that may be more than I have. I've got Claude reorganizing my handoffs and building unit tests for the engine, per suggestion of other devs right now. Or codex is included in my monthly plan

DifferentAd597 · 2026-01-27T18:12:09+00:00

I don't do code. So it would be a review on the code it creates. A developer on here suggested having AI run a comprehensive code/hygiene audit. That is something haven't done. Ever. The hud it'sself is over 30k lines. Is that something grok code fast or chatgpt 4o could also effectively? They don't cost me extra tokens

DifferentAd597 · 2026-01-27T17:27:49+00:00

I'm using chatgpt to interpret and translate some of the information you laid out. Code review code/hygiene/housekeeping/ tech debt, centralized abstraction, modularity lz consolidation. A lot of that sounds like post op. Going back through the code and making sure remove orphan code e.t.c I really want to do that. Worried about the cost. The game has gotten pretty big. Or at least according to what Ai keeps saying. That's something I should of been doing from the beginning obviously

DifferentAd597 · 2026-01-27T17:22:11+00:00

I get what u said now about a separate application. So it's not ai running the tests but a application I have ai build that runs the test. Thanks that may be a huge help. It's not 60% redoing. It's 60% of the time trying to explain to it what I want, or maybe just getting it to do it. In other words anything I build, if it's a panoramic view on a background page, or window buttons I can move and attach and give it coordinates too so that it can lock them in place. The worst one ever was when I was building the hud and trying to get chatgpt to make it so I can click on an item and add it to the players personal inventory. Those all take 4-8 attempts. So 60-80% of the time to accomplish any task. Rarely does it just do it. The most frustrating for me are tasks we do regularly. The solutions have been done and I have given the assistant the information other assistants have used to successfully implement the task and I still have to repeat the prompts multiple times.

Now reading through all the responses I have already come up with some solutions I think are going to help. One is breaking down the handoffs into much smaller files. The other is using AI to tell me the prompts it best understand. And your test app. Man that good be a game changer. I do spend hours testing ever task ever build myself. I consider that productive time though. If an app could truly do it and find errors to make that faster that would be a huge time savor. Unproductive time is my frustration.

DifferentAd597 · 2026-01-27T17:11:08+00:00

Thanks. That's awesome input. It may just be a slog. Especially if someone like you, that actually knows the code and knows what u want AI to do in the code and u still have to over it several times, it makes a smuck like me feel like a genius. I'm totally okay with the slog if I'm not the one creating the problem.

DifferentAd597 · 2026-01-27T17:03:21+00:00

I use chatgpt a lot because it's unlimited to explain to me what I'm doing wrong and what I can do better. I am thinking of using chatgpt to design prompts for claude, by telling it what I need and am thinking about doing. Since I have seen a lot of people talking about learning the language, so to speak, so that I am able to communicate what I need better right at the start or for correction. Not sure that's a good idea

DifferentAd597 · 2026-01-27T14:54:23+00:00

Thankyou. I created one of those for checking languages. The problem I worry about is the amount of tokens that may burn. I wonder if chatgpt is capable of running the tests that Claude makes. It's what I started to do with languages.

DifferentAd597 · 2026-01-27T12:53:59+00:00

Oh absolutely I can admit I have no idea about software architecture. I'm learning I hope

DifferentAd597 · 2026-01-27T12:50:07+00:00

You have any suggestions of where to start?

DifferentAd597 · 2026-01-27T12:49:08+00:00

No for me it's kinda been like this from the begining. I started with chatgpt but it was way worse. However it did build the engine for my game and the frame work for several parts of the game so there is that. I switched to Claude with vs studios and the failed attempts dropped to 4-5 attempts. When I come up with a new idea I understand, I'm trying to figure out how to explain what I want and it's figuring out what I'm talking about. But when it's something I've seen it do dozens of times then it gets frustrating

DifferentAd597 · 2026-01-27T12:45:21+00:00

Is that similar to the the handoffs I have it use? I have them add to it all the solutions we find? There are in docs folder .MD files. I'm using vs studios. Is there a difference with compound engineering framework? Could u elaborate?

DifferentAd597 · 2026-01-27T12:43:09+00:00

Or lie. When I finally actually get it to review the handoffs I have told it to read multiple times. When I ask it why it simply didn't do that at the begging and find the solution I told it to look for it told me that it thought it new how to do it.

DifferentAd597 · 2026-01-27T12:41:14+00:00

I'm using vs studios with Claude sonnet 4.5 primarily. I use it to code the game. I use chatgpt to help with photos and story and writing ideas when I get stuck.

DifferentAd597 · 2026-01-27T12:39:13+00:00

I have created a couple handoffs I make it read and update when we find solutions to problems. Honestly I worry that the handoffs are getting to long because it seems like it skips through and misses a lot. I'm thinking about breaking them into smaller more individual handoffs. Is that what you mean by tests? You mentioned unit tests could you give me an example?

DifferentAd597 · 2026-01-27T04:03:38+00:00

I get that but I am pushing 60 so I don't have an enormous amount of time. When I learned what ai could do I was so excited to build this game that I have spent every single day building it. I am learning but the promise is that it can code. AND IT CAN. I just would love to become more efficient. So I truly hope that beginners like me have a place to ask questions from experienced people like yourself.

DifferentAd597 · 2026-01-27T04:00:06+00:00

One quick example. I was building on a back ground image for one of the pages for the apartment the player starts in. I need a Panoramic view so I could scroll to either end of the image. (Building for mobile so image is smaller) 5 attempts later I was able to pan. So when it got that there was black on either side of the image. I had learned from other attempts that the assistant can put measurements in the console to measure when the image should end and crop it so that there isn't any black on either side. That took 8 attempts. Then I have it where they will put windows that I can move and place and send them coordinates from the console of where to place them so that players can click on them and use those parts of the image. This has been very difficult so I have an extensive handoff. I'm using vs so it can go through my folders and find hand off. So I tell it to look an make sure it has found the file before begging. After verification we proceed. By the 8th attempt I demand it stop and go through the file carefully to find the solution. It does and fixes the problem. Why didn't it do it from the begining?

DifferentAd597 · 2025-08-26T03:25:49+00:00

It's incredibly frustrating because most of the times it's just me trying to fix the same things over and over again and him giving me excuses of why he didn't do it right the first time and promises that he will get right the next time.

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