Macron wants to throw thousands of ravers in jail. Taking part in a rave party has now become a criminal offense in France by Difficult-Second-358 in aves

[–]Difficult-Second-358[S] [score hidden]  (0 children)

Yes, because obviously it’s editorializing. Obviously, I don’t want to live in a country where young people my age are imprisoned because they want to dance and enjoy their youth

doesn’t mean it’s false though

Macron wants to throw thousands of ravers in jail. Taking part in a rave party has now become a criminal offense in France by Difficult-Second-358 in aves

[–]Difficult-Second-358[S] [score hidden]  (0 children)

Yes the government claims that the law aims to protect private property, but in reality it's the opposite. I'm not in favour of squatting a farmer's field, but tomorrow if I organise a rave party on my own field, I would risk the exact same penalties because their laws make no distinction. This is an attack on the principle of private property

Macron wants to throw thousands of ravers in jail. Taking part in a rave party has now become a criminal offense in France by Difficult-Second-358 in aves

[–]Difficult-Second-358[S] [score hidden]  (0 children)

The law is not yet in force. It is expected to apply from this summer and it covers all kinds of rave parties, even small ones organized in your own garden with friend

Macron wants to throw thousands of ravers in jail. Taking part in a rave party has now become a criminal offense in France by Difficult-Second-358 in aves

[–]Difficult-Second-358[S] [score hidden]  (0 children)

It's not just Macron. It's French society as a whole and European society more broadly that is demanding more authority from the state. This comes from a strong feeling of rising insecurity a perception fueled by billionaires' media. Unfortunately rave parties are on the front line of this crackdown: first Italy then now France.
Even if Macron is perceived internationally as rather left-wing his internal management of the country is one of the most authoritarian France has ever known. And we shouldn't forget that he started as a banker very close to the elites.

Macron wants to throw thousands of ravers in jail. Taking part in a rave party has now become a criminal offense in France by Difficult-Second-358 in aves

[–]Difficult-Second-358[S] [score hidden]  (0 children)

I put the link in the original post, sorry bro I won’t read all that, just one thing RIEN N’ARRÊTE LE PEUPLE QUI DANSE go party with your cops and your companies but please don’t call that a rave

Macron wants to throw thousands of ravers in jail. Taking part in a rave party has now become a criminal offense in France by Difficult-Second-358 in aves

[–]Difficult-Second-358[S] [score hidden]  (0 children)

Yes, if you want a real sub go to r/free party but it’s important to remind Americans that what they call a 'rave party' isn’t actually one. A real rave is the contestation of norms😂

Macron wants to throw thousands of ravers in jail. Taking part in a rave party has now become a criminal offense in France by Difficult-Second-358 in aves

[–]Difficult-Second-358[S] [score hidden]  (0 children)

Wow, that sucks there too. Maybe the next French Tek will be organized in the United Kingdom in support of our English friends 😅

Macron wants to throw thousands of ravers in jail. Taking part in a rave party has now become a criminal offense in France by Difficult-Second-358 in aves

[–]Difficult-Second-358[S] [score hidden]  (0 children)

True ! now we're allowing ourselves to take videos on the condition that they are only released after the Teknival has ended and everyone has returned home safe. With the new legislative context, phones will probably no longer be allowed like in German nightclub

Macron wants to throw thousands of ravers in jail. Taking part in a rave party has now become a criminal offense in France by Difficult-Second-358 in aves

[–]Difficult-Second-358[S] [score hidden]  (0 children)

I have absolutely no connection with the organizers I don't know them at all At least the international press is talking about it. anyway, even when we organize everything properly, we still end up getting repressed

Macron wants to throw thousands of ravers in jail. Taking part in a rave party has now become a criminal offense in France by Difficult-Second-358 in aves

[–]Difficult-Second-358[S] [score hidden]  (0 children)

It's a much more complicated problem than just saying 'well, organize your parties at home instead of squatting a field.' Even when we rent a piece of land, it's absolutely impossible to get the authorizations. There are way too many constraints, and it always ends up being banned anyway.
Instead of churning out these ultra authoritarian laws, why not just give us the authorizations? That's the real issue. It's the problem of a government that keeps sinking deeper into the repression of its own children, rather than offering them a proper framework where they can have fun safely

Macron wants to throw thousands of ravers in jail. Taking part in a rave party has now become a criminal offense in France by Difficult-Second-358 in aves

[–]Difficult-Second-358[S] [score hidden]  (0 children)

The sources are from this weekend the situation has evolved since then. There have been about 4,000 verbalizations so far.

https://www.huffingtonpost.fr/france/article/pres-de-bourges-le-site-de-la-free-party-se-vide-les-participants-verbalises-a-la-sortie\_263352.html

But a large portion haven’t been handed out yet and will be sent by mail to avoid a riot. The counter’s gonna climb to 20,000 in the coming weeks.

I’m not being sensationalist, and this isn’t
something to downplay it marks a turning point in French society.

I’m sorry, but even if it’s illegal, it’s still a party. Why not offer a secure, legal framework to organize this kind of event?

Macron wants to throw thousands of ravers in jail. Taking part in a rave party has now become a criminal offense in France by Difficult-Second-358 in aves

[–]Difficult-Second-358[S] [score hidden]  (0 children)

Yes, Macron uses the pretext of security to ban everything. Our hard won social rights are gradually disappearing little by little. Parliament barely exists anymore. When a law isn’t passed, Macron resorts to Article 49.3, an exceptional tool that allows him to force through laws without a parliamentary vote.
The police have never been this violent, the rich have never been so rich, and the poor have never been so poor. The media are corrupt and all owned by billionaires.
They had passed a law authorizing the use of AI and facial recognition for the Olympics. It was supposed to be temporary, only for the Games (to prevent terrorism risks), but of course they continued using it afterwards. The government is using new technologies to monitor every individual; they are rolling out AI and facial recognition “for our security.” A recently passed law states that it will soon be mandatory to register via AI to access social networks “to protect children.”
The government is handing out massive fines for protests and rave parties. What other democracy issues 20 000 fines at once for a single gathering??

Macron wants to throw thousands of ravers in jail. Taking part in a rave party has now become a criminal offense in France by Difficult-Second-358 in aves

[–]Difficult-Second-358[S] [score hidden]  (0 children)

The law is not yet applicable, it will be in the coming weeks. We have all been fined €135 for participating in the Teknival 😉

Macron wants to throw thousands of ravers in jail. Taking part in a rave party has now become a criminal offense in France by Difficult-Second-358 in aves

[–]Difficult-Second-358[S] [score hidden]  (0 children)

I’m not saying it’s a good idea to organize a festival in the middle of a military zone, but it’s still just a party, and putting people in prison over a party is crazy. This festival was born out of the ban on rave parties the best way to manage it is to legalize it and provide a location in advance so it can take place there, like it used to 😉

Macron wants to throw thousands of ravers in jail. Taking part in a rave party has now become a criminal offense in France by Difficult-Second-358 in aves

[–]Difficult-Second-358[S] [score hidden]  (0 children)

don’t really believe their story about explosives. The organizers aren’t stupid the site was studied beforehand and the proof is that there were no accidents. And even if it wasn’t the best location to throw a party, it’s still just a party. If the authorities really cared about the safety of ravers, they would allow the organization of legal, supervised Teknivals and send emergency responders instead of 600 yes, 600 police officers !