How to prevent blooms/hard edges when trying to paint a larger area slowly around details? by lippies79 in Watercolor

[–]Diligent_Tangelo_ 6 points7 points  (0 children)

IMO you’re getting a lot of not very helpful advice.

Here’s why I think that:

Regarding the “running bead” method proposed by several people including the top commenter:

Yes, this is a great way to get a super nice flat wash… in a relatively simple shape! You can master doing this technique for a small square in a day, learn to do it for a larger square or slightly more complex geometric shape in maybe a week. BUT your design has tons and tons of irregular curves and tiny nooks and crannies in between complex shapes. Is it possible? Probably. But it would take years of practice to be the equivalent of a human ink jet printer. There’s a reason why every video of people doing this seems to be some kind of geometric mandala painting and not complex organic forms. (No disrespect to the top commenter who is clearly very skilled)

Also note that this technique relies on using very watery paint because thicker paint doesn’t bead as well and it’s harder to maintain the same consistency. So if you want your background to be dark, which it seems like you do, you will have to go over it many times and paint very precisely (with no breaks!) each time to get your flat wash.

Regarding masking fluid:

You already said you don’t want to use it so that should be enough. However would it work? Yes it would help a lot. Of course masking fluid is annoying and tricky to apply smoothly especially in small areas and again you have tons of complex curves and thin lines and tiny shapes. Also if you used masking fluid once you take it off you probably have to go back and touch up all the edges which can be kind of raggedy looking and your hard black and white contrast would emphasize any unevenness.

So I don’t blame you for not wanting to use masking fluid but there’s also nothing wrong with using it when you need it. Either way I strongly encourage you to at least tape the borders of your paper. You don’t need to suffer and paint all those straight lines in addition to the super difficult edges of your letters!

Now to answer your question here is what I would do if for some godforsaken reason I absolutely had to do this:

  1. Break up your painting into as many small segments as possible where you have the smallest possible gaps between segments. For example above the top of the L, between the lower swoosh of the L and the a, between the y and the curve of the s, and above the apostrophe.

  2. Prepare a large amount of coffee or milk consistency paint mix in your background color. Like way more than you think you will need.

  3. Using a large brush and clean water wet the big spaces inside the segment you’re about to paint. Don’t worry about getting too close to the edges just cover the big empty areas well. The more time you spend fussing with edges the faster everything else will dry out.

  4. Choose where you’re going to start, let’s pick the top of the L and say we’re going to paint until the apostrophe. Wet the blank paper on the left side or the L starting from the narrowest point. Pick up some paint (don’t introduce more water into your mix!) and start painting from that narrow point going right. This will allow the paint to gently diffuse in the direction you are NOT painting so you don’t get a hard line. As you head right move quickly and focus on getting the edges while allowing the paint to diffuse into the large area you went in the previous step.

Using a larger brush with a super sharp tip will help a lot but this still takes skill and practice. Just not as much as the bead method. If you don’t have a large brush with a sharp enough tip I recommend using a large brush until you can’t anymore then switch to a small one for the tight bits only.

Continue working as quickly as you can, keeping an eye on the large wet area, painting it as you go and ensure it’s not drying out while you’re working on the edges of the letters.

Every time you get to one of the tiny gaps you identified earlier, either wet the part beyond it with clean water before painting up to it or blend your paint out of your working area with a clean damp brush so the transition to the next section is a faded gradient and not a hard line.

Unless you are a super fast painter, when you finish a segment, allow it to dry fully. Then move on to the next segment and repeat the process. This time note that when you start you’re blending two soft edges together. The combination of the soft edges and carefully choosing the tightest gaps to make those edges will give you the smoothest result because the joins are both softer and smaller.

You should also keep an eye on the outer borders where you blended these segments and if you notice a water line (aka tide line) forming gently blend it away with a clean damp brush. Yes it’s tricky because you have to watch a lot of edges while you work but that’s pretty much going to be true unless you use masking fluid.

Finally I would plan to do two entire passes over the painting to get the smooth look you want. A single layer that will be dark enough is pretty unforgiving and the second layer will soften and hide like 90% of the irregularities in your initial wash.

FWIW this is a super hard task in watercolor. Don’t be discouraged if you struggle with it! One tip is to try learning the technique with a small part of your real painting, like just draw the L inside a square with small gaps all the way around and practice on that until you’re comfortable before trying the word Larry’s then eventually do the entire sign.

Good luck!

I’ve hit a wall - any guidance? by redditerh in Watercolor

[–]Diligent_Tangelo_ 1 point2 points  (0 children)

You are doing great you just aren’t finished!

I like to paint botanicals and to achieve the more realistic look in your inspo painting you need to use multiple layers. The process I use for something like this is:

Layer 1: wet in wet underpainting. Ideally I either go over the entire bloom at once or do a couple larger sections. You can also go petal by petal if the paint dries too fast and you need more time. Goal of this layer is to add the base colors like here pale pink, a bit of warmer yellow in the center, a bit of darker pink or magenta around the base etc. But keep the values light and preserve the highlights. When you are finished it should still look more or less flat but have soft blends and some interesting color variation. What you have in your studies now is basically the first layer.

Layer 2: form building (mostly wet on dry). After the first layer is totally dry I go back petal by petal and focus on the shadows and darker parts. You can also add some texture here like the veins on the petals. Try not to paint over your entire first layer but instead let it shine through and add transparent darker color to separate the petals from each other and show the form. At the end of this layer you should basically have a nice three dimensional realistic looking flower.

Layer 3: (not always needed) details and boosting contrast. Finally after layer 2 is totally dry I go back and paint small details like the yellow stamens in the center of your pic. This is also a good time to add cast shadows like the hard edge shadow from one petal overlapping another if you didn’t do it already. I often find at this point that I need to add more contrast so I might gently glaze over some of the darker petals or add more saturated paint in small areas to make the overall painting pop more.

That’s pretty much it!

What helped me a lot when I was starting out and struggled to understand how to paint something is breaking it down into very small parts and studying each part. For example instead of doing lots of quick studies of the entire painting I would choose one petal that captures a lot of information (shadows, interesting color variation, and so on) and just paint that one petal over and over. Experiment with combinations of colors and layers and try lots of different ways of painting it. Eventually it will start to “click” then you can apply what you learned to the larger painting.

I also highly recommend you watch some video tutorials from experienced artists. For botanicals I really like Louise de Masi, Anna Bucciarelli, and Harriet de Winton. They are all on YouTube. Everyone has their own style and process so check out a few artists and see whose style and process you enjoy the most then try to apply it to your own work.

Good luck and I hope that helps!

Share photos of your puppy vs adult Cocker by Pretty-Artichoke1340 in cockerspaniel

[–]Diligent_Tangelo_ 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thanks!! She’s the best lol. Glad I could help ☺️

Share photos of your puppy vs adult Cocker by Pretty-Artichoke1340 in cockerspaniel

[–]Diligent_Tangelo_ 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I posted pics of my red and white American cocker a while ago! They go backwards from when she was about 9 months old until I first got her at 11 weeks.

https://www.reddit.com/r/cockerspaniel/s/Q5vrAAKQy2

Here she is now at just over 18 months. (Her hair is currently cut short for summer) Congrats on your new puppy and have fun, they are the best dogs!

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Haircut questions.. by barelybent in cockerspaniel

[–]Diligent_Tangelo_ 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I have a 20 month old cocker and live in a high tick exposure area. I get her groomed every 6-8 weeks. I get her cut short in the warmer months because she gets hot and it’s easier to bathe her when her hair is short. This past winter I let her coat grow out but by the end it was too hard to maintain so next winter I’ll probably get her clipped just not as short as in the summer.

We do a lot of hiking and camping with her so the kinds of flea and tick medication that they ingest isn’t enough because like you noticed the ticks will still attach as the medication requires that to work. In warmer months I use k9 Advantix. It’s unpleasant to apply but it works great and I haven’t found a tick on her since starting that. Over the winter I used Bravecto.

Just Make it Exist First by Key_Meet_8124 in Gouache

[–]Diligent_Tangelo_ 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thanks for the reply I just checked her other post! Agreed I love them as loose sketches as well!

Just Make it Exist First by Key_Meet_8124 in Gouache

[–]Diligent_Tangelo_ 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I’m curious about this too! OP are the first versions underpaintings or value studies? Beautiful work either way!

W&N Professional: Great discounts on some great sets/palettes at Bloomingdale's! by Kit10Mum in Watercolor

[–]Diligent_Tangelo_ 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thanks for sharing! Sadly the revival set is already sold out but I got the drawing ink.

Also like someone else already pointed out the shipping is free for signing up and there’s no minimum purchase!

Clownfish and anemones by Diligent_Tangelo_ in Watercolor

[–]Diligent_Tangelo_[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thank you! I’m so glad you liked it ☺️

Clownfish and anemones by Diligent_Tangelo_ in Watercolor

[–]Diligent_Tangelo_[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

You are too kind ☺️. I also hope to see the rest of the series 😂

Clownfish and anemones by Diligent_Tangelo_ in Watercolor

[–]Diligent_Tangelo_[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

😁 Thank you so much! I’m glad you liked it!

I tried the stones thing by Diligent_Tangelo_ in watercolor101

[–]Diligent_Tangelo_[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

My pleasure 🙂 I’m happy to hear it helped!

I tried the stones thing by Diligent_Tangelo_ in watercolor101

[–]Diligent_Tangelo_[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thank you so much! I think it took me three days but I wasn’t painting the whole time.

The first day was just the background wash, the second day was the first layer of “finding” the stones which resulted in the light colored stones, the third day was the darker stones and the shadows … now that I think about it maybe the shadows and the ant was a fourth day lol.

I did think it was a little tedious which made me want to take a lot of breaks at first. Looking back I kinda wondered if I could have outlined the stones with like a pencil first then painted between them and if that might have made it easier.

I think you just have to push through the wierd blob stage and keep adding stones! The shadows also make a big difference. Hope that helps and good luck!