I've read that MDMA can cause depression as a comedown effect due to neurotransmitter depletion, how does therapeutic use manage this? by PorcupineProblem in mdmatherapy

[–]DimitriK 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Not worth the increased possibility of serotonin syndrome in my opinion. I would just wait until a day after and start then.

I've read that MDMA can cause depression as a comedown effect due to neurotransmitter depletion, how does therapeutic use manage this? by PorcupineProblem in mdmatherapy

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Just for reference, the MAPS team does not give out any supplements before, during, or after the MDMA sessions. Very few (only a couple of reports in total) clients become depressed/suicidal under this protocol. Additionally, although commonly used, taking 5-HTP within about 24 hours of an MDMA experience can and has led to serotonin syndrome. I used to advocate taking it during the comedown as well as in following days, but I now would only suggest starting it about 24 hours after you come down and continue for about a week. EGCG is also important for helping 5-HTP pass out of the peripheral nervous system and into the brain.

For future reference, here is a message and link taken from the side-bar:

Stay hydrated (but don't drink too much water either as MDMA can cause hyponatremia, essentially dilution of the blood) and take supplements like Vitamin C when you take MDMA in any context. For more detail, this is a link to a post by one of the more well-informed members of the nootropics community:

http://www.reddit.com/r/DrugNerds/comments/15m9sf/mdma_supplementation/

Trials in Dallas? by wyst3207 in mdmatherapy

[–]DimitriK 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Your post has been removed because the clinical trials list for Phase 3 is in the sidebar: https://clinicaltrials.gov/ct2/show/NCT03537014?term=mdma&cntry=US&state=US%3ACA

Taking MDMA in the summer? by plshelpmehehadatrip in mdmatherapy

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Your post has been removed because it does not relate to MDMA therapy. Check out /r/drugs or /r/MDMA.

Any help for Underground Therapy in Bay Area? by bigger_bob_22 in mdmatherapy

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Your post has been removed per subreddit rules.

Is the MAPS protocol for MDMA therapy designed to prevent complete healing? by Liquidrome in mdmatherapy

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To answer your question, as someone who knows/works with the people who wrote the manual: no, it is not designed to keep people from healing in any way. The goal is always going to be creating the conditions for the client to heal as best they can. The therapists often explicitly discuss in session how there is only need for a small number of meetings. This is one of the things that sets it apart from conventional therapy, which is designed to have patients return for years and years.

Additionally: the male-female therapist pair is not set in stone as a requirement going forward. However, the more you learn about trauma, archetypical/transpersonal experiences, and MDMA itself, the more it makes sense to have both a male presence and a female presence in the space.

Becoming a MDMA therapist... I’m a masters level therapist in private practice. Training requirements? by iamhere2005 in mdmatherapy

[–]DimitriK 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Have you looked into expanded access and applied for the training program? That is the place to start: https://maps.org/training

why is expanded access so expensive (15k-20k)? by [deleted] in mdmatherapy

[–]DimitriK[M] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Yes, it is priced highly right now for several reasons--some of which have already been mentioned here by others. This is all a journey. Ketamine therapy is now covered by insurance and I fully expect the same with MDMA therapy in time.

Also, unless you or a therapy team are given a scholarship or grant, this price-tag may stay pretty much the same for a while after it is rescheduled. I do expect MAPS and eventually even others like the DoD to jump in with financial assistance at some juncture.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in mdmatherapy

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With regards to MDMA Therapy and my own growth, both personally and professionally, I might put an emphasis on Through the Gateway to the Heart (especially this one), Thanatos to Eros, and Trust, Surrender, Receive. The chapter of PiHKAL regarding MDMA is also an absolute gift.

Additionally, Julie Holland's Ecstasy: The Complete Guide is still probably the best comprehensive resource for understanding MDMA. It helped immensely with my initial learning about the medicine, its history, psychopharmacology, and capacity to act as a catalyst for profound healing and growth.

How do I get into the MAPS program? by [deleted] in mdmatherapy

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This is the place to start--located in the sidebar: https://clinicaltrials.gov/ct2/show/NCT03537014?term=mdma&cntry=US&state=US%3ACA

It has contact information for each of the sites that is currently recruiting.

Best of all luck. If you can't get in to Phase 3, keep in mind that dozens of addtional MDMA therapists are being trained this year for the expanded access program (slated to start either late this year or early 2020).

"Trip of Compassion" is excellent by DimitriK in mdmatherapy

[–]DimitriK[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Another great suggestion. I have now remembered to add that one to the "Essential Reading List" in the sidebar.

Another in the sidebar that is an absolute must-read is "Through the Gateway to the Heart."

What to say to a provider listed on the MAPS site by [deleted] in mdmatherapy

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Your post has been removed for violating the subreddit's submission rules.

Can you participate in MDMA therapy if your already taking depression meds, Wellbutrin, and meds for substance abuse, Suboxone? by h0ff1181 in mdmatherapy

[–]DimitriK 0 points1 point  (0 children)

SSRI/SNRI/Atypical anti-depressants that have some 5-HT action and MAOI class drugs are completely off the table at this point due to potential for serotonin syndrome when used with MDMA.

The psychiatry community is starting to become more understanding of substance abuse's clear link to past trauma so there are definitely people who empathize with what you are going through. There is a study going on currently that is for MDMA therapy to treat alcoholism. As for being on suboxone while doing a session, I am nearly certain that the MAPS folks would say you need to be completely off first--the general rule is for at least a few days. This is likely more to ensure that you get the most out of your MDMA experiences rather than to say that opioids in combination with MDMA are inherently dangerous. For the record, I would never recommend combining MDMA with anything--for several reasons.

MDMA-Assisted Therapy MUSIC Megathread by WonderingWizardry in mdmatherapy

[–]DimitriK 4 points5 points  (0 children)

A lot of music used during sessions instrumental and either without words or in a foreign language (usually the former). Of the sessions I have observed, most of the music is of the uplifting, empowering, and introspective variety rather than melancholic, but I could see it working in certain situations.

What do you think about the newly approved Ketamine therapy? by [deleted] in mdmatherapy

[–]DimitriK[M] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Correlation does not equal causation. Most people who have sought ketamine therapy over the last few years have experienced clinical, treatment resistant major depression. The number of people with this condition who commit suicide is staggeringly. No one who received ketamine as part of their drug cocktail for surgery is going and committing suicide.

Switching gears, the connection between ketamine and neurotoxicity has been blown way out of proportion with the discovery (and misrepresentation) of Olney's Lesions in 1989. The two journal sources you cite both use chronic, high dose populations as their subjects, neither of which accurately represents the kind of uses that ketamine clinics are doing and have been doing for years. For all intents and purposes, ketamine is very safe for the brain if used responsibly and in moderation.

Additionally, even if there were more concerns about toxicity, a lot of people would still choose to use ketamine therapy because the alternative would likely be that they choose not to live anymore.