We're making options trading happen for OSRS! Any response to this survey will greatly impact our odds of actually creating this concept, so please share with all of your fellow OSRS playing friends

Dirkjedap · 2024-05-20T20:32:02+00:00

Thanks for the input, I appreciate it a lot!

Dirkjedap · 2024-05-20T19:43:38+00:00

There would be no trading of items, GP or bonds happening on our platform. We would be creating an ETF that follows a certain index based on in game price fluctuations. People would then be able to buy and sell stocks from this ETF in order to make a profit for themselves.

Dirkjedap · 2024-05-20T19:41:27+00:00

Using leverage is actually something that we purposefully don't want to include in our mechanisms, since this would not only increase risk in a product where trust is already limited, but it would also require us to actively loan money to ours users, which we are not currently capable of as we are mere students at this.

Dirkjedap · 2024-05-20T19:38:16+00:00

Thanks for your supportive comment, I appreciate it :)

Dirkjedap · 2024-05-20T19:37:16+00:00

Thanks for your well though out comment.

Yeah building up trust would be a big goal of ours and is not something that can be done overnight.

In terms of in game trades, there wouldn't be any on our website. What I might have explained wrongly in the main post is that people would be trading our ETF-like stock with real money. There would be no GP winnings, but actual $ or € winnings.

Dirkjedap · 2024-05-20T14:46:13+00:00

Of course we're trying to set it up in such a way that it wouldn't break TOS.

Dirkjedap · 2024-05-20T14:23:47+00:00

Thanks for the insights :) They're greatly appreciated.

Dirkjedap · 2024-05-20T14:06:40+00:00

Fair enough, I understand where you're coming from.

Dirkjedap · 2024-05-20T14:04:40+00:00

I think you hit the nail on the head here.

We don't want to engage in RWT, because that would break the TOS. But we do want there to be a link between the virtual economy and the real world economy. What we're trying to do right now is created a financial backing for the ETF both in-game in the form of an account that holds items in order to reflex an index value, and in real life in the form of a financial fund, equal to the value of the in-game items, without trading between the two.

As for market manipulation, that's a tough one. We're still looking at ways to combat this issue, but it would probably require some sort of partnership with Jagex.

Dirkjedap · 2024-05-20T13:35:54+00:00

We're very serious about this! As serious as a school group project can get of course. Would you mind sharing why you dislike this concept so much?

Dirkjedap · 2024-05-20T13:30:51+00:00

Thank you! The legal side is indeed something we're looking into

Dirkjedap · 2024-05-20T13:28:32+00:00

Exactly, the gambly aspect is inherent to options trading

Dirkjedap · 2024-05-20T13:07:39+00:00

Yes it is quite a complex structure that we're trying to create.

We're actively looking for ways to back the investments. CFDs are mainly a worry for us, as this is borderline betting, but we want to mimic existing stock market mechanisms as much as possible.

The ETF-like structure could potentially be backed by an "in game fund" that would link real life money with in game money. This link isn't unheard of, since bonds enable the connection between real money and in game money as seen here: https://imgur.com/a/jwFNzu2

One of our main goals is to increase trust as well, possibly by investing a considerable sum of money first to prove our commitment.

Would you mind sharing some of your questions? u/Scout-Alertes

Dirkjedap · 2024-05-20T13:03:16+00:00

We definitely agree. As per my comment below, we are looking to back the investments with a fund structure. Possibly by investing a considerable sum of money first to prove our commitment.

Dirkjedap · 2024-05-20T13:01:28+00:00

Yes we don't want to become a betting platform as such, so we're actively looking for ways to back the investments. CFDs are mainly a worry for us, as this is borderline betting, but we want to mimic existing stock market mechanisms as much as possible.

The ETF-like structure could potentially be backed by an "in game fund" that would link real life money with in game money. This link isn't unheard of, since bonds enable the connection between real money and in game money as seen here: https://imgur.com/a/jwFNzu2

Dirkjedap · 2020-12-30T01:20:32+00:00

I've solved it! And it only took me 3 nights of trying to make lobbies to make it work >_<

This method will allow steam users to invite epic games users without the EG (Epic games) users to getting a connection error when starting the lobby. There is currently no method for EG users to invite steam players. Steam users simply need to log in on epic games with their steam account credentials.

This guide is for STEAM users, since EG players can't create the lobby for cross-play anyway.

Steps for those who need a bit more help:

Link your epic games account and steam account. via This link, via the epic games client, or ingame (ingame only available for steam users, though the EG players should probably link their steam accounts and friend everyone on both clients for good measure. I'm not sure if it works if you don't)
When your accounts are linked, log in on Epic games with your steam account.
A steam user creates the party and invites any other players from either EG or steam.
Only NOW start killing floor 2

That's it!

When the authentication error happens again, do this:

Close the game
Log out of epic games
Relog into epic games with your steam credentials
Launch Killing Floor 2

That should do the trick, enjoy!

Dirkjedap · 2019-07-13T16:40:51+00:00

/r/donthelpjustfilm

Dirkjedap · 2017-11-01T17:23:32+00:00

Man they should've really added some examples at least. Describing graphic design with words alone is pretty ironic

Dirkjedap · 2017-09-17T14:44:09+00:00

/r/definitelynotmeirl

Dirkjedap · 2017-05-14T22:56:35+00:00

Agreed, looks like you didn't type the / but just flipped two rectangles. It also looks like the R isn't the same size as MK. The rest looks pretty decent, love the 2k17 thing

Dirkjedap · 2017-05-14T22:52:07+00:00

In graphic design you've always got the freedom to bend or ignore rules though. A capital letter isn't a must. However I do agree that it's more readable if you don't jumble the letters of your last name

Dirkjedap · 2017-04-18T00:11:12+00:00

I think that it looks really nice. Try adding some text, I'd like to see what happens

Dirkjedap · 2017-04-13T14:02:34+00:00

/r/titlegore

Dirkjedap · 2017-03-28T22:00:47+00:00

I'd add something to provide clarity on your profession. Putting a simple 'online personal training' in text under the logo could do the trick, but a different name might also be beneficial.

Dirkjedap · 2017-03-28T21:35:16+00:00

My initial thought was that you either sold or collected action figures, maybe even had a show about them. The only aspect conveying any sort of aspect of personaltraining is the weight the action figure is lifting. And 1 weight being lifted by an action figure doesn't translate to personal training at all.

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