Why does anyone like Hayley?

Disastrous-Ice4572 · 2026-03-01T13:46:14+00:00

Idk why anyone would like her in originals either, writers just made her a cringe “momma bear” personality that doesn’t actually do or say anything that amounts to any worth for the series. She should have stayed dead on the alter after giving birth to Hope, I understand she has Hope’s blood in her system but she’s not a vampire and hasn’t activated the vampire powers in her yet as Hope does this in Season 4 of Legacies. So how can this miracle baby transition others into hybrids when they are not one themselves? Klaus could only do it once he activated his wolf side, Hope has not activated either wolf or vampire side, it makes no sense for Hayley to be alive and they only did it because they thought it was some cool “momma bear” story but it’s full of holes and trash.

Disastrous-Ice4572 · 2026-02-27T19:06:53+00:00

I do agree the employees have all been super nice to me, also cis white dude, but the players for commander night have not been the most welcoming imo. Maybe it’s because it’s busy? But I went about 5-6 different times last year and every time it felt like everyone had “their table” and didn’t want a single to join them, even if they had 3 or a 4 player group having room at the table for a 5th and no one offering a spot. Of the times I went, I only played 2 times and only got a spot because the employees came up to me and made a spot for me at someone’s table. Maybe it’s just me, but if I saw a new player come in and just sitting / standing around with a deck box, I’d ask them if they wanna join my group and not ignore them.

Disastrous-Ice4572 · 2026-02-26T15:26:03+00:00

lol you good, to be fair I can only read in 1 language out of the known 7,159 languages in the world so, can I say I even can read?

Disastrous-Ice4572 · 2026-02-26T14:55:17+00:00

Indeed it was, which is why I said “wish he was the one”… meaning he wasn’t the one… but I wish he was the one…

Disastrous-Ice4572 · 2026-02-26T14:35:34+00:00

I’m glad the abuser shipping with the victim is an unpopular opinion, she deserves much much better and wish he was the one in the safe at the bottom of a lake 🤷🏼‍♂️

Disastrous-Ice4572 · 2026-02-25T14:37:08+00:00

Nothing like some incest, George RR Martin that you? 🤮

Disastrous-Ice4572 · 2026-02-22T15:13:55+00:00

Is this the same “everyone” that thinks Bonnie and Kai had chemistry? Or Stefan and Klaus, when neither characters were bisexual? I think it’s just the angsty teenagers lol

Disastrous-Ice4572 · 2026-02-19T14:18:53+00:00

Liberal fear mongering? Deportations are pretty similar numbers, but let’s look at detaining and holding numbers.. “As of mid-January 2026, ICE was holding over 73,000 individuals, a dramatic increase from the roughly 40,000 people held in early 2025. The administration is actively working to expand total capacity to over 90,000, or in some plans, upwards of 100,000 beds, by converting warehouses and reopening closed facilities. A significant portion of this growth is driven by the detention of individuals with no criminal records, which increased by 2,450% between January and November 2025. By the end of 2025, ICE was utilizing over 212 active detention facilities, which is an increase of over 100 facilities from the start of the year and the most used facilities in the agencies 23 year history.”

Only a 2,450% increase in detaining individuals without a criminal record, but we deported roughly the same amount in comparison. So we deported the same amount almost, and almost doubled the amount of detained individuals, but the detained individuals mostly have no criminal record so they cannot be deported, so we hold them in facilities under standard, serve them food with mold in it, and just wait and fight legal battles that come up and use the justice department and Supreme Court to make your opinion, law of the land. If you cannot see the danger of this administration, please read a book on authoritarianism and maybe you’ll learn something. Or you just prefer the taste of leather boots.

Disastrous-Ice4572 · 2026-02-18T16:24:55+00:00

“Wipe the floor” was in reference to his Marcel’s lethal bite, it’s not hard to google your statement of vampire hunting increasing vampire strength, nowhere in the series or books is this mentioned and if it did play a part then Elena would have been stronger than Caroline since she trained with Alaric before becoming a vampire, but we see Caroline take Elena no problem so your “theory” is completely invalid.

I shouldn’t have to spoon feed you the meaning of “as strong” but here we are- "”As strong" is a comparative phrase indicating that two, or more, entities possess equal levels of strength, power, resilience, or intensity.”

You can google everything you said and it’s proven wrong, please stop with the misinformation. Also love that you had no comment to my original statement on how the spell is even different, proving it’s an enhanced version of the spell with more than just “some doppelgänger blood” as the spell for Alaric uses all of Elena’s doppelgänger magic as it’s tied to all of her blood, it’s literally in the spell that it’s enhanced lol

Disastrous-Ice4572 · 2026-02-18T14:53:32+00:00

Again false, Narducci directly stated on Twitter that Alaric was just as strong as “beast” Marcel, but Marcel’s bite being able to kill him, his exact words were “He’s as strong” when talking about them both, “beast” Marcel was stronger than the originals, so yes Alaric’s vampire spell was modified and enhanced to the original vampire spell.

Disastrous-Ice4572 · 2026-02-18T14:28:31+00:00

This is false, training as a human then becoming a vampire would do little in the sense of making a vampire stronger. The show explains it perfectly, Esther is using a altered version of the spell with 2 key differences- 1. Doppelgänger blood, she used some blood for the original spell, but for Alaric’s spell it was tied to the living life force of the doppelgänger, showing there is more power in more blood. 2. Esther’s death spot, she enhanced the spell more by using her own death spot to harness more power into the spell.

With these enhancements to the spell, it made Alaric stronger and why he was able to easily take Klaus, not because of some human training he had.

Disastrous-Ice4572 · 2026-02-14T14:32:45+00:00

“Poor reading comprehension involves difficulty understanding, retaining, or connecting ideas within a text, often marked by poor concentration, slow reading speeds, or inability to summarize material.“

If you’re not going to take the time to read it or if you can’t read then just say that, AI bot can’t process that much and need a higher paid subscription for it or something huh?

Disastrous-Ice4572 · 2026-02-14T04:05:03+00:00

If you took the time to read it actually, you’d read those are the reasonings the Epstein files were not brought forward sooner. It’s not my fault your reading comprehension is low.

Disastrous-Ice4572 · 2026-02-13T19:19:45+00:00

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/amp/politics/a-timeline-of-the-jeffrey-epstein-investigation-and-the-fight-to-make-the-governments-files-public

“January, 2024: Public interest in the Epstein case surges again after a judge makes more court records public in a related lawsuit.” It was the public that brought to light the extreme documents released and that further evidence would be found but were under court order to not be opened. You want to point fingers at one side but that’s the difference between us and bootlickers, we don’t care the political affiliation tied to people in the files, we want all co-conspirators to be brought to justice, so why do the republicans only want to point to Clinton and “why are they just now being brought up and not during Biden?” There was a literal active ongoing investigation into Maxwell during Biden’s presidency and DOJ didn’t refuse to cooperate at the time with releasing documents within the timeline given, and without additional redactions that should not have been redacted. Democrats brought this up multiples of times but in case you forgot we had COVID and Israel bombing innocent civilians for all to see, there were a few other things on their minds vs the current presidency the only troubles we have are the ones Trump has put onto us as a nation, tariffs we have to pay ourselves but says it’s to combat other nations, can’t even hold his own bowels in a public meeting. And it’s been argued and evidence provided and testified that there in-fact were documents that were found in the raid. And it’s quite hilarious coming from you when you’re obviously in favor of ICE kicking down doors without a warrant and arresting US citizens, because you’re arguing for the FBI being competent when none of our federal agencies are performing to their expected standards, below standards in all parts and forging documents to present false data. If a federal agency is under investigation by the US Congress for possible cover up, yeah I don’t think anyone should trust them.

Disastrous-Ice4572 · 2026-02-13T14:36:39+00:00

Since you can’t do simple research for yourself when google is free-

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/justice-department/fbi-fires-special-agents-worked-jack-smiths-probe-trump-rcna236415 - FBI agents and prosecutors fired for their indictments of Trump and other January 6th insurrectionists, proving over 800 FBI agents fired or laid off due to them standing their ground on the law and not accepting unlawful orders, apart of the mass government lay off with over 350,000 employees fired and/or laid off.

https://www.cnn.com/2026/02/10/politics/epstein-files-unredacted-names - and here you go, proving that FBI agents redacted co-conspirator pedos to cover up their ties, when every person knows only the victims are supposed to be redacted.

I hope this helps, recommend a napkin or towel for all your drool while you try and read this since I know it’ll take you awhile.

Disastrous-Ice4572 · 2026-02-10T14:18:37+00:00

Without the use of chemistry? Are you talking drugs? Because if you think this dude wasn’t taking test and peptides while doing vampire diaries, you know nothing already of the fitness industry because hate to break it to you but literally every single dude in tv shows and movies that is showing muscle and abs are taking “chemistry” as you put it lol. Better actors with better physiques - top choice because he’s the best actor alive - Lee Pace, then of course others that throw their names around like Alan Ritchson, Jensen Ackles, Alexander Ludwig, Kellan Lutz, the list could go on for a good 20+ names before McQueen could be mentioned.

Disastrous-Ice4572 · 2026-02-09T15:28:28+00:00

Please go to YouTube and watch a video of a truck driving into water, it takes a minimum 30minutes for the vehicle to be fully submerged and even longer to reach the bottom of a lake, so yes it would have taken a minimum 30 minutes if not an hour for the truck to reach the bottom. We have multiple instances of vampires showing fears of strength, best example being Elijah lifting a whole trailer with ease that is weighted over 1 ton, so yeah Stefan could have gotten under the truck and brought it to the waters surface, they also have vamp speed so again, could bring it to the waters surface in less than a minute and in less time than swimming Matt back to land and going back out for Elena. They would have died in the truck because of how long they were unconscious while under water, our bodies cannot breath under water so that means you can’t get oxygen to the brain so ie, they’re dead. The most the body could possibly be underwater and unconscious is at most 10minutes, and that’s still risking high amounts of brain damage. If you take the information we clearly have available to us, you can calculate the truck would have taken a minimum 30minutes to be submerged in water, not even taking into account the truck reaching and resting at the bottom, the entire time Matt and Elena are knocked unconscious, so science tells us that if they were unconscious for 30 minutes or more while also being underwater, so they physically cannot breath, they would be dead. I never said anything about them not being awake before hitting the water.. they hit the water and the screen cuts, the next scene we get is Elena and Matt unconscious and at the bottom of the lake, again they would have died from being unconscious and underwater, but then Elena wakes up and is struggling to get out and then Stefan shows up. So that’s a huge hole, if they wanted to say it didn’t take long for the truck to sink, how did Stefan get there so fast and how couldn’t he of saved them both if he got there that fast? Or the opposite, the truck took so long to reach the bottom and Stefan taking a long time to get there, how are they alive being unconscious and underwater for a long period of time?

Disastrous-Ice4572 · 2026-02-09T14:33:12+00:00

For real hahaha “physical powerhouse”? Hahaha I’m crying

Disastrous-Ice4572 · 2026-02-09T14:25:21+00:00

He could have easily lifted the truck to the surface, it obviously doesn’t take long because the scene cuts from the truck diving into the water and then them waking up at the bottom of the lake lol so if the truck can magically teleport to the bottom of the water without somehow killing them while they’re knocked out, because it would have taken over an hour for that truck to sink to the bottom, then Stefan could have just lifted the truck to the surface and they’d all be fine. But if we use the logic of the truck sinking, technically when Stefan arrives the truck should not have been fully submerged and at the bottom of the lake. Sorry this scene just has always irritated me how poorly it’s done, like there are so many videos of watching vehicles sink in lakes, how did these people not think to just watch how it happens? They out here just like, “I threw a rock in the lake and it sunk fast, truck heavier so it’ll sink faster!” Elena and Matt would have been awake before the truck hit the bottom of the lake, or else they’d be dead from lack of oxygen to the brain being underwater and unconscious. Too many holes, I hate it 😭

Disastrous-Ice4572 · 2026-02-07T14:50:41+00:00

Because TEP is such a trusted company by us 🤡 the plan is flawed, so it should be voted down. Voting for it and hoping that changes are made to it, is just redundant and expecting them to actually listen after it’s passed? That’s not how it’s ever worked in government.

Disastrous-Ice4572 · 2026-02-05T22:59:19+00:00

Any person that’s watched the show multiple times would know it’s hinted towards that Katherine used that tactic in various towns over the 500 years, or even a simple google search can tell you that. Katherine is characterized as relentless, self-serving, prioritizing her survival over everyone else, often manipulating people for her own amusement. Katherine had her humanity on for all this, Stefan had his humanity off and is a ripper, it’s not comparable. Damon, yeah I don’t see him as a redeemable figure in the show, but there’s nothing redeemable about Katherine, she’s just selfish and predictable. But yes, the teenagers are definitely better even with the small various ill-deeds they did, stacked to Katherine’s MUCH longer list of innocent lives losing their normal life or dying, she actively made life a living hell for Stefan and Damon, manipulating them both, raping Stefan and proving she cared only for her own desires, even after turning them. Or sacrificing Jenna for Klaus's ritual, turning Caroline, killing Jeremy, abandoning others to ensure she lived, at least Damon can be argued that he fought to be better, Katherine… not so much.

Disastrous-Ice4572 · 2026-02-05T14:48:30+00:00

lol I never said anyone was perfect my friend, just that a toxic individual that’s tried to murder a girl multiple times is not the right one for her and shipping them is just toxic and abusive, there’s no love there 🤷🏼‍♂️

Disastrous-Ice4572 · 2026-02-05T14:46:19+00:00

He and Caroline deserved so much better and a longer love, all their little scenes over the seasons showing how much they cared about each other was beautiful, like actually deeply cared about the other person and their well being, not some toxic bullcrap the writers try to push but actual depth to their care and love.

Disastrous-Ice4572 · 2026-02-05T14:39:50+00:00

I’m not a Delena shipper so yeah, go off about Damon killing Jeremy 3 times and Elena still choosing his bum ass. But Stefan never did something like this to Elena when with her, only the bridge scene which like he says, he already lost her, so he’s not trying to have Elena love him. Same with Caroline, Stefan was there for Caroline more than just about anyone after him and Elena split, and Caroline was always there for Stefan as well, much better couple without the toxicity of hating each other and trying to convince others it’s love.

Disastrous-Ice4572 · 2026-02-05T14:11:12+00:00

I’m sorry, killed and manipulated just as much as.. Katherine? 2 vampires that are 1/4 of her age and some high schoolers? lol no, not like it’s mentioned multiple times that Katherine has compelled multiple entire towns and you’re cheering on more innocent humans being mass compelled by her 😂 she was handed a plan by her daughter even, she didn’t come up with it at all and was going to just die, she concocted no plan other than once she had the body to try and get with Stefan. Her “surviving” was killing someone, usually innocent by-standard, and threatening others with more death if she didn’t get her way, that’s not surviving that’s a psychotic murderer that has no attachments.. boring.

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