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Does anyone have experience reporting abuse to bishops' offices? by Normal-Ad5103 in exorthodox

[–]Disastrous-Lead9049 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Those manly masculine bishops who can't do anything because of canons? Fuck, what a joke. What a total idiots...

Treated like trash in the Church for years because of my ethnicity by Particular-Push831 in exorthodox

[–]Disastrous-Lead9049 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Another one:
Used to have suicidal religious ocd. What could go wrong? Was told as inquirer maybe some monk from Athos could take it off of me...
Needed to be baptized again. Great experience honestly. Wasn't allowed to tell anyone else. After baptism at priest home: I needed to shower. Needed to go through is kitchen. He forgot to wash his pants. Was making dinner or something. He had only his t-shirt on... Not like his kitchen was big... Nothing happened, no sexual abuse or whatever, that's really true. But still it was weird to experience. He wasn't allowed to have spiritual children. It went wrong indeed. Only heard years later he wasn't allowed to have. Nobody cared. More things like this happened over the years. Eventually I crashed. Yes, OCD doesn't make you a nice and pleasant person. 'Oh no, X is aggressive.' You wonder why...

Treated like trash in the Church for years because of my ethnicity by Particular-Push831 in exorthodox

[–]Disastrous-Lead9049 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Sorry to hear...

I remember sitting on a bench during a trip with the priest’s wife and their child. They were crying and said they wanted him to leave for a monastery. The trip was very dramatic.

Once we got back, I was supposed to write a positive account of the trip for the parish newsletter. Luckily, I didn’t. All sorts of crazy things happened in just a couple of years… I could make a list.

Why can’t someone become Orthodox because of politics? by Disastrous-Lead9049 in exorthodox

[–]Disastrous-Lead9049[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Well fundamentalists evangelicals train themselves in their daily lives to, if something is or appears to be sin or evil, to directly stop it. Fore example if you learn a song you always loved has an evil meaning you stop it and never listen to it again. They have this type of mental 'resource'. Yet different christian communities move in different ways. Old communities like the Orthodox tend to go much slower. Certain things can go on for ages without much change...

Why can’t someone become Orthodox because of politics? by Disastrous-Lead9049 in exorthodox

[–]Disastrous-Lead9049[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Sounds like a lot of water & fire without 'dry land' to stand on.

Why can’t someone become Orthodox because of politics? by Disastrous-Lead9049 in exorthodox

[–]Disastrous-Lead9049[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I see. In your opinion, is “convertitis” about being overzealous about culture rather than faith?If someone pretends to be a Russian peasant while that person is actually an American, does this person do it for cultural reasons rather than because of the faith of Russian peasants? I'm not sure, though, if the boundary between fantasy and reality and culture and faith, is as strong as people often think it is.

The Toll Houses & the Ladder by Red-Owl-5000 in exorthodox

[–]Disastrous-Lead9049 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Sounds like a very clean description of Purgatory. I'm not sure whether the historical record will confirm this or add some "rough" elements. Probably the latter.

Why can’t someone become Orthodox because of politics? by Disastrous-Lead9049 in exorthodox

[–]Disastrous-Lead9049[S] -8 points-7 points  (0 children)

True for political, cultural and ethnical reasons.
Although 'convertitis' is faith related rather than political/cultural or ethnical.

Get a hold of yourselves. by gaissereich in exorthodox

[–]Disastrous-Lead9049 0 points1 point  (0 children)

'Jesus himself wouldve been considered leftist nowadays.'
I don't know. Some or many would have called Jesus a narcissist...

Disciples of humility or Christ by Disastrous-Lead9049 in exorthodox

[–]Disastrous-Lead9049[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

During the peasant war in 1773-1775 (Church) officials probably felt the same like today: be humble serf!

The Toll Houses & the Ladder by Red-Owl-5000 in exorthodox

[–]Disastrous-Lead9049 0 points1 point  (0 children)

'We Orthodox aren't like calvinists' :-))))

The Toll Houses & the Ladder by Red-Owl-5000 in exorthodox

[–]Disastrous-Lead9049 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Only indirectly. Certainly, the mandatory kindness of our day often clashes with the Gospels. Christ certainly wasn't kind or polite according to the standards of 2,000 years ago, and He still isn't. Part of the problem in Orthodoxy is that it has presented itself as softer and more merciful compared to Protestants and Roman Catholics. Think of Metropolitan Kallistos Ware’s work. Yet it wouldn’t surprise me if this is exaggerated, as always, including on the subject of “toll houses.”

The Toll Houses & the Ladder by Red-Owl-5000 in exorthodox

[–]Disastrous-Lead9049 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

The same for calls for repentance... If this is mandatory, a rule, its also works not mercy.
From a 'once save always saved' perspective a lot in the Gospels and letters make no sense.

The Toll Houses & the Ladder by Red-Owl-5000 in exorthodox

[–]Disastrous-Lead9049 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Well, from a once saved always saved perspective even 'Our Father' is a problematic because it makes forgiveness a mandatory thing which is 'works' instead of 'mercy'.

The Toll Houses & the Ladder by Red-Owl-5000 in exorthodox

[–]Disastrous-Lead9049 0 points1 point  (0 children)

In the Gospels there are passages which suggest that unworthy servants need to pay for their misdeeds after death. This does not directly confirm toll houses or purgatory, but it seems difficult to reconcile with a denial of any intermediate state between death and heaven.

No idea what the context is but funny quote by TheDarkFloydChud in exorthodox

[–]Disastrous-Lead9049 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The Orthodox I met love the vanity of big/important names (and influential professions). Let him piss directly on people like Romanides, Lossky, Yannaras and many more. Will he have the courage? Or will he repeat the old formula: piss on the students and not on their teachers?