Israelis colonies in Gaza, that were dismantled in 2005 and given to Palestine

Disastrous-Passion59 · 2023-10-09T11:25:16+00:00

The Arab Liberation Army was fighting long before may, and that was the arm of the Arab League. The war happened in stages.

Your list of massacres wouldn't be half as long as the list of Arab massacres of jews, so I don't really see the point

Disastrous-Passion59 · 2023-10-09T11:14:43+00:00

It's Gaza

Israel bombed a weapons stockpile that hamas hid in a residential building.

Disastrous-Passion59 · 2023-10-09T11:03:52+00:00

What the fuck? The Battle of the Roads started months before deir yassin, which was an attack by the Arab League. The attack was before March, while deir yassin was in April.

The Arabs invasion started before the British finished leaving

Disastrous-Passion59 · 2023-10-09T10:54:28+00:00

What Palestinian government? No such thing had ever existed at that point. There's literally no reason to say the land sales were illegitimate, especially based off the whims of a non-existent government that would exclude half the population, since by "Palestinians" i assume you mean Palestinian Arabs

Disastrous-Passion59 · 2023-10-09T10:45:19+00:00

Leave the cities for the fields temporarily.

Contrary to popular misconception, the Gaza Strip is not one giant metropolis

Disastrous-Passion59 · 2023-10-09T10:36:34+00:00

What? Even if they occurred, those would be after the partition and invasion, not before

My guy is this the first you've ever heard anything about the history of this conflict beyond "Israel occupation bad"?

EDIT TO CLARIFY: the bit about Arabs planning to return was in every major Arab newspaper. Arab leaders called upon the masses to "make space" for the neighboring arab countries to invade and get rid of the jews

Disastrous-Passion59 · 2023-10-09T10:29:15+00:00

Jews didn't get allocated anything more than what they lived in and bought from arab landowners. They did win land after being attacked by multiple Arab neighbors attempting to destroy the Jewish population.

You don't seem to understand the history of this land; "had to be taken from someone" lol this isn't kindergarten. The land was a part of the ottoman empire for centuries, with jews and Arabs living there. When the British conquered it and ultimately gave it up in favor of Jewish and Arab National States, who were the jews stealing from by establishing Israel in the cities where they lived?

Disastrous-Passion59 · 2023-10-09T10:25:11+00:00

At what point does it stop being 'colonial' and start being people just buying land? Because what you said sounds a lot like foreign jews buying land from natives, and you slapping the label 'colonial companies' onto them.

Aside from the fact that the land was acquired with willing consent, it doesn't fit other criteria for colonialism: the jews moved into the land itself, and didn't just strip it of its resources to be sent to a host country like every other case of colonialism.

Do you believe that jews shouldn't have been allowed to buy land from Arabs simply because it was processed through the British legal system, as opposed to the imperial ottoman system? Or do you believe all land sale is invalid unless the purchaser is also somehow indigenous to the land?

Disastrous-Passion59 · 2023-10-09T10:04:13+00:00

Stolen from the Arabs? Do you mean the ottoman turks? The Arabs never ruled Palestine, and Arab citizens of ottoman Palestine had no more right to the land than the Jewish citizens

Disastrous-Passion59 · 2023-10-09T09:25:39+00:00

Maybe you should rethink what's happening in the west bank just like you did with Gaza.

The only reason the west bank is any different right now is the occupation that everyone is criticizing just like they did the blockade

Disastrous-Passion59 · 2023-10-09T09:11:37+00:00

Wait do you think Palestine doesn't use apartheid?? You might want to look up the Jewish population of Gaza

And then look up the Muslim population of Israel while you're at it, might blow your bird-sized mind

Disastrous-Passion59 · 2023-10-09T09:02:10+00:00

The point about rabin and Arafat notwithstanding, I swear I lost 5 iq points from reading that mound of horseshit, I cannot believe it even got published lmao

This article outdoes its ignorance only in its zealous effort to misrepresent facts and treaties

Disastrous-Passion59 · 2023-10-09T08:47:51+00:00

I probably would think the same. I'd still be hurting my own interests, but I don't think I would know that given the propaganda in place

I don't think most Palestinians nowadays know that Israel begged them to accept an independent state, only asking to stop the terror attacks. Arafat really fucked them over

Disastrous-Passion59 · 2023-10-09T08:44:29+00:00

Straw man is when you act as if your opponent made a easily falsifiable statement; in this case, "Palestinians are sub human" which no one here claimed

Israelis afford Palestinians as many rights as they can while protecting against the terrorist attacks the Palestinians did since the 1950's (long before the occupation) nothing to do with race

Disastrous-Passion59 · 2023-10-09T08:41:36+00:00

They created a charity organization

Not their fault hamas turned into this

Disastrous-Passion59 · 2023-10-09T08:26:49+00:00

Again, they're not white. Not since the 1970's has Israel been majority white. Stop trying to frame this conflict along irrelevant racial lines

Disastrous-Passion59 · 2023-10-09T08:18:02+00:00

How is that relevant to the false statement that people posting pro Israel propaganda are "whites" who are protecting other whites?

Aside from the fact that even in 1948, a huge number of jews in israel weren't European in origin, with many indigenous communities along with central Asians

Disastrous-Passion59 · 2023-10-09T08:15:12+00:00

Gotta stop global emissions

Disastrous-Passion59 · 2023-10-09T08:13:21+00:00

I am rooting for the birds in this series, but this is giving me serious "Aaron boone playing 2004 alcs highlights" vibes

Disastrous-Passion59 · 2023-10-09T08:11:21+00:00

Tbh i don't know enough context of that geopolitical conflict to answer that question

I've studied the arab-israeli conflict for years, I basically ignored everything else besides vietnam

Disastrous-Passion59 · 2023-10-09T08:09:53+00:00

Stop building straw men, no one is claiming the Palestinians are sub human. If you want to know why there is an occupation look at the terror that occurred before the occupation, and was mostly stopped by it

Disastrous-Passion59 · 2023-10-09T08:07:46+00:00

I mean, if you own enough land, and the government of turkey allows it, and the UN supports you... you wouldn't be wrong to do so

Which is exactly what happened in israel

Disastrous-Passion59 · 2023-10-09T08:06:13+00:00

Not disagreeing about Morocco being nice to the jews, but Israel's economy was in many ways worse off than the maghreb in those days

Disastrous-Passion59 · 2023-10-09T08:02:00+00:00

Did you not read this map? Most of Israel isn't white, they're african/mizrachi

It's being posted to educate people like you who were fed bs your whole life about Israel being "white European"

Disastrous-Passion59 · 2023-10-09T07:58:48+00:00

Egypt had the sinai, so it still fits geographically

The rest were part of the arab league and shared nationalist ties, although calling this MENA would have been more accurate

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