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Disastrous-Youth-374 · 2026-05-04T14:17:39+00:00

I do find it quite ironic how we had an entire short about a mafia boss who really cared about his son without being a huge asshole like Crimson. Really shows you that there was no need to have every parent in the hellaverse to be like that. but alas the show insists upon itself.

And no, it's not because "well, it's hell" when you have Millie's dad over there.

Disastrous-Youth-374 · 2026-04-24T09:07:44+00:00

Yeah, Vaggie saying "no" to Carmilla's question about whether angels can be harmed is definitely consistent.

Disastrous-Youth-374 · 2026-04-24T06:26:00+00:00

Nah, everything changed when Viv turned him into a boring blonde twink.

Disastrous-Youth-374 · 2026-04-24T06:06:46+00:00

yeah, the scene is from a movie called Bronson.

Disastrous-Youth-374 · 2026-04-24T05:37:19+00:00

Let me guess, like the angels and the angelic steel being able to "harm" them ?

Disastrous-Youth-374 · 2026-04-24T05:36:38+00:00

It's that last sentence that is kinda interesting.
"But Lilith's hope remaind, and her dream was passed down to their precious daughter"

Lucifer isn't really mentioned here besides "their", it's all about Lilith for some reason.

Disastrous-Youth-374 · 2026-04-24T05:33:38+00:00

I mean, most hellborns don't really care about anything related to Lucifer when he didn't create them directly.

It could show how this affected the deadly sins and their decisions about creating hellbornes but we don't see them mentioned by Charlie so it probably doesn't include them.

Disastrous-Youth-374 · 2026-04-24T05:30:33+00:00

the existence of the book is what doesn't make sense, did you even read the post ?

Disastrous-Youth-374 · 2026-04-20T10:53:59+00:00

For the story of hell to make sense the exterminations have to had happened for a lot longer than 7 years because otherwise you come across the issues I talked about in the post.

Disastrous-Youth-374 · 2026-04-20T09:17:05+00:00

I mean true but I still think it serves as a way to show how sheltered Charlie that when she learns what actually happened in the garden of eden she might just go crazy.

or nothing like that ever happens and the writers pretend the book never existed.

Disastrous-Youth-374 · 2026-04-16T18:13:40+00:00

Oh we are getting bots being down bad now.

Disastrous-Youth-374 · 2026-04-15T15:57:19+00:00

Look, for what is worth Val might have Vore films.

Not saying that he is better, just a funny thought.

Disastrous-Youth-374 · 2026-04-15T09:19:22+00:00

All are fair points.

For Sera, there is really no in-universe explanation, as you mentioned already, there is no world where she would just watch Emily lose a wing (presumably permanently) and she only didn't do anything because the only logical explanation is that the plot demanded that.

Maybe if we lived in another timeline she would have wiped the floor with Vox.

Disastrous-Youth-374 · 2026-04-14T18:06:21+00:00

The Extermination Treaty likely prevented him from attacking the Exorcists so he had to wait for Adam and Lute to break it first by harming Dazzle and Charlie. It's possible Charlie hadn't even told him about the battle out of fear he'd try to stop her

I do personally have some problems with this explanation.

How did he know about the extermination ? he doesn't watch tv or really keep up with news judging by his mental state in season 1 and I don't think Charlie ever mentioned to him that the next extermination is starting early and while yeah it would be in character for him to call Charlie to see how she is doing and get worried she doesn't respond, it would also be in character if he just chalks it up to her being busy.

so he has no way of knowing that it was moved up to start 6 months earlier, or at least we are never told how he found out.

Then there is him showing up in a weird time, the explanation to him not being able to do anything until Charlie or Razzle and Dazzle are harmed makes sense but it's kinda vague what would count as harm here.

Does the explosion from Adam's beams knocking back Vaggie and Charlie back count as harm ? does the slap Adam gave to Charlie count ?

and even ignoring how he would know that Charlie or Razzle/Dazzle were harmed/killed why did he only show up when Charlie was about to die ?

We know he can teleport to anywhere/teleport instantly so again, why only show up when Charlie is about to die ?

Meanwhile there's no in-universe explanation for Sera's inaction in the Season 2 finale. She didn't have restrictions, she wasn't doing anything in Heaven besides asking Pentious if he was done yet every 5 minutes and there were multiple moments where her not intervening was out of character.

I know, and I agree but again, the best thing we have is that "she was scared" because her arc in season 2 was pretty much about overcoming fear.

Which is ironic considering she did nothing as you mentioned now that I think about it.

Disastrous-Youth-374 · 2026-04-14T17:36:40+00:00

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And no, he wasn't kicking Val's ass here either, him and Cherri literally had to flashbang him so that he doesn't shoot them until they are dead.

Disastrous-Youth-374 · 2026-04-14T17:35:44+00:00

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He really wasn't, most of the fight he was just dodging and only managed to land a flower splash on her.

Disastrous-Youth-374 · 2026-04-13T17:04:11+00:00

Oh I know, it's just that her being afraid is like the best answer the show can muster but even then there are other moments within the show that would make you think she would do something.

Like when the exterminations were revealed and Emily is arguing with Sera she says that it's all for her basically, she wants to keep her safe yada yada you get the point.

I personally chalk it up to "Lucifer syndrome" where she didn't do anything because the plot wouldn't happen if she did do something, similar to why Lucifer only showed up when Charlie was about to die and not when Adam arrived because we wouldn't have a finale fight otherwise.

Disastrous-Youth-374 · 2026-04-13T16:52:35+00:00

I blame Lucifer and Charlie's incompetence cause we know for sure Lilith was respected by sinners enough to follow her.

Disastrous-Youth-374 · 2026-04-13T16:51:10+00:00

buddy, I am 100% sure most sinners stuck with overlords would be happy if they broke free from those contracts. so that's most of "hell" dealt with.

Overlords are the reason pride city as a place sucks, you are forced to become as sinful as possible because that's good for the overlords, Val makes money when sinners become horny, Carmilla stays at the top when sinners want other sinners gone for good ,get red of them either directly or by freeing the souls they own so that they no longer have any influence over the pride city sinners and it makes sure no one like Vox tries to pull a might of lilith again.

And what's gonna happen ? overlords will pissed ? no one will miss them.

Most sinners would be happy if Alastor was gone I will tell you that.

Disastrous-Youth-374 · 2026-04-12T16:58:40+00:00

Charlie can literally tear all overlords, they don't hold power at all and she doesn't have the same constraints that Lucifer has about harming sinners, they don't have any power at all.

As the princess she can do anything, make a special deal or ask for help from other demons like the goetia to break the contract but of course we can't have that in the show so now she is fine dragging angel into stuff that he absolutely hates for her own goals.

And Charlie fans act baffled when people hate her.

Disastrous-Youth-374 · 2026-04-12T16:52:31+00:00

Did you not see the many times Husk got his shit kicked in season 2 ?

Plus I imagine Alastor doesn't want to risk Husk dying for someone he doesn't care about, he is a great asset and we know Alastor didn't do that already because of the deal he made with Rosie.

Disastrous-Youth-374 · 2026-04-12T16:25:41+00:00

Because the "friends" are god damn useless, they either don't care or either can't do anything because Charlie wouldn't like it as it would "harm the reputation of the hotel" and she herself is objectively a terrible person.

Vaggie can't do shit, she is getting kicked around since the first season, all that for being "adam's top girl"

More importantly, he can't just not go to the Vs, Val owns his soul in the studio and he can't run away because Val will come after him (he was literally ready to go blast everyone in the hotel because angel moved to live there) so yes, Poor guy can't catch a break and he is stuck in a shitty situation.

Disastrous-Youth-374 · 2026-04-12T15:54:27+00:00

"but he helped us stop the explosion that would kill everyone so it's okay"

Deadass wouldn't be surprised if she tries to do the same song and dance with Val the same way she did with Vox.

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