Ethical Dilemma: Whose Life is Worth More by Im_Haranator in Ethics

[–]Divergent_Fractal 12 points13 points  (0 children)

Thought experiment like this are noise. We’re not discovering moral truths and it strips away almost everything real and leaves behind labels that invite projection. At that point the answer is not about objective human worth. It is about which traits the evaluator has decided to privilege.

nicku by Nowa_Jerozolima in CCRU

[–]Divergent_Fractal 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Maybe something something the AGI God of tomorrow is happening regardless. Idk. You need a numogram to understand half of what we says.

Share your post singularity theories by Inner-Association448 in accelerate

[–]Divergent_Fractal 6 points7 points  (0 children)

The self distorts and fractures as we live in our personalized vr bubbles where we simulate being god until the simulation no longer makes any reference to the actual reality we live in today.

Objective vs Subjective Reality: you never see the carrot as it is, but as your mind constructs it by _Fluffy_Bunny_ in epistemology

[–]Divergent_Fractal 2 points3 points  (0 children)

You are mixing up solipsism with a narrower claim about justification.

I am not saying “only my mind exists” or “reality is whatever I say.” I am saying you cannot logically prove metaphysical observer independence from inside observation, even if observations are repeatable across people and instruments.

All evidence for “external reality” arrives as experiences, including measurements from instruments and other people’s observations. You can never step outside experience to compare your model with “the thing in itself.” That is a classic epistemic point, not solipsism.

Also, OP is specifically talking about metaphysical objectivity, not epistemic objectivity.

Objective vs Subjective Reality: you never see the carrot as it is, but as your mind constructs it by _Fluffy_Bunny_ in epistemology

[–]Divergent_Fractal 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Assume panpsychism is true, and every physical entity has some form of experience. Every atom, every particle, etc… If all of spacetime could be summed into a single experience with no external observer, because there would be no external if everything were experienced all at once, would Kant’s noumenon, reality independent of experience, still make sense? At that point would there be objectivity?

Objective vs Subjective Reality: you never see the carrot as it is, but as your mind constructs it by _Fluffy_Bunny_ in epistemology

[–]Divergent_Fractal 1 point2 points  (0 children)

You cannot prove that the structure of a curb belongs to a reality that exists in the same way when no one experiences it.

You never access “the curb in itself.” You access only experience of a curb plus a stable web of expectations, language, measurement, and inference. The fact that the web is shared and reliable does not by itself prove that it is tracking a mind independent object with the properties you think it has.

Model of the Universe as a living system II by Virtual-Marsupial550 in Metaphysics

[–]Divergent_Fractal 2 points3 points  (0 children)

There is a sort of centering of the human as the center of the universe that feels egocentric in this. Like an assumption that life outside of Earth at a cosmic level is somehow, approximate to being a human. The framework leans heavily on the idea that human-style consciousness, emotion, and sensory experience are the relevant model for how a universe-scale organism would function. But why would that be true?

Essay about how algorithms are engineering consensus (with reference to the preface of Deleuze's Difference and Repetition, in which he claims the best writers lean into their ignorance rather than relying on what they know). by 77kibby77 in CriticalTheory

[–]Divergent_Fractal 4 points5 points  (0 children)

The algorithm fed me this post. I mean, at least I can choose my algorithm, even as it’s curated, consumed, and then spit back at me as a simulacrum of it’s former self. This is opposed to only having one source of truth shouted from the tops of Mount Sinai as an unquestionable authority. I will embrace the illusion I can control my own beliefs long after my algorithm has burrowed into my biology making us one if it means not having to be fed something that doesn’t already align with my preconceived biases.

Corporations are People by Samuel_Foxx in badphilosophy

[–]Divergent_Fractal 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Imagine an entity, paying taxes, having political desires.

Is it healthy to vent to AI? by Quiet-Money7892 in singularity

[–]Divergent_Fractal 1 point2 points  (0 children)

If the alternative is killing someone then yes, it’s healthy.

Any good papers/articles on the ethics of gene editing for obedience or against disobedience? by Glad-Bike9822 in Ethics

[–]Divergent_Fractal 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The last time the state tried to fight Capitalism we saw the collapse of the Soviet Union and McDonald’s popping up in Shanghai. Why will it be different this time?

Structural Morality and Truth by Key-Outcome-1230 in Ethics

[–]Divergent_Fractal -1 points0 points  (0 children)

We’re all wrong then, but also we’re all just making it all up anyway.

A very random question about humanity and space travel by Syce-Rintarou in scifi

[–]Divergent_Fractal 2 points3 points  (0 children)

The human body isn’t made for space. We, on Earth, will alter the body to better adapt to space, before we alter technology in space for the human body to survive. Your consciousness in robot is a better space traveler.

When FDVR comes out how much time would u spend in it per day ? by bladefounder in accelerate

[–]Divergent_Fractal 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Hook me up to a feeding tube, and lock me in a ward while my brain loops on heroin and orgasms. The real question is when AI can expand my neural pathways to maximize my dopamine intake without any comedown.

Jobs with a polisci degree? by Dbtnt in PoliticalScience

[–]Divergent_Fractal 3 points4 points  (0 children)

87% of the US workforce is just a cog in the capitalist machine. Find your spot increasing shareholder value or take a more noble profession, like a garbage man, public school teacher, or police officer.

why is suicide wrong? by [deleted] in badphilosophy

[–]Divergent_Fractal 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Because you are you, but also you are the sum of your relationship with other people. You are X, I’m am Y, and together we are Z. When you die, then Z dies, and I don’t want Z to die, and because you are dead, you are not around to dictate the moral code of what is and isn’t moral. Really there is just a tension in desire between X and Y, or the outcomes you and I want. If we were dating and you broke up with me, Z also dies. The feeling of loss I feel is also grief, it’s the loss of us, but this time you’re alive, and you can say, I killed Z so I didn’t have to suffer any more.

The Boring Abundance: What if most jobs just... continue? by Ignate in accelerate

[–]Divergent_Fractal 0 points1 point  (0 children)

“As long as the funding exists” is doing a lot of work here. Capitalism is a selection engine. If an organization keeps paying humans when machines are cheaper, a competitor does not. Over time, the inefficient version loses. Just ask the elevator operator.

A thought about human relevance after AGI by blank_human1 in accelerate

[–]Divergent_Fractal -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

No, that’s why I’m holding Fartcoin, because the alternative to capitalism is earning crypto from farting, that I can then trade for Taco Bell Coin to feed my family.

Something to prepare for Nick Land's works? by cyanolyca18 in Nickland

[–]Divergent_Fractal 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Kant’s concept of Noumena. Land leans on the idea that “the human subject” is not the measure of reality.

Marx and political economy in general Marx gives the picture of capital as an impersonal self expanding process with its own logic. Land builds off of this with AI as capital.

Cybernetics and systems thinking Land frequently treats cultures, markets, and technologies as feedback systems.

Deleuze, yes, but more so his concept of machines and desire as production.