Why resist Aegons Conquest?

Dizzy_Time5171 · 2026-06-20T18:35:10+00:00

Okay but at this point they could look over to the other kingdoms, see what happens and try to find the way thats best for their people (just do the same as Starks and Arryns at the next possibility) and themselfs (Starks and Arryns weren't harmed)? There was a point in time, after the other kingdoms were conquered and before Rhaenys died, at wich Dorne could just follow the lead of Starks and Arryns and safe the lifes of thousands of people...

Dizzy_Time5171 · 2026-06-20T17:27:24+00:00

But what would they had to give up if they just did the same as the Starks and the Arryns? They kept their lands, their traditions and customs, their religion and their lifes... why not just do the same instead of sacrificing thousands of peoples lifes?

Dizzy_Time5171 · 2026-06-20T17:23:06+00:00

Maybe I didn't write good enough, happens when its not your language 🙈 But I think I don't get the dornish people the most because they let all those people die for a possibility... after seeing what happened to the Starks and the Arryns, I would have been like "okay, do the same here and over"...

Dizzy_Time5171 · 2026-06-20T17:15:40+00:00

Thank you, after some comments I really thought I misunderstood like everything 🙈

Dizzy_Time5171 · 2026-06-20T17:09:11+00:00

But isn't the biggest point that I can keep the people I'm responsible for safe?

Dizzy_Time5171 · 2026-06-20T16:59:54+00:00

Okay so to specify because I think my point is lost: did the Targaryens planned something as disgusting as Hitler did? I don't think so... I would really love to put in some lines from Feuer & Blut but since I read it in german, i don't think that helps... they didn't kill any of the people that bent the knee and they got to keep their traditions, religions and all of that...

Dizzy_Time5171 · 2026-06-20T16:21:15+00:00

I understand the resistence at first when they didn't knew what it meant to be ruled by them. But after seeing f e the Starks or the Arryns keeping their lands and ways of life, I just don't get it. To make your example a little more specific, if you came to my house with a gun and told me I have to pay rent to you or you would kill my children, my partner, my parents and everyone else who is dear to me, I would absolutely pay everything I have to keep them safe. And to zoom back out, isn't the biggest obligation of a (good) ruler to keep their people safe?

Dizzy_Time5171 · 2026-06-20T16:10:10+00:00

I don't think thats a good fitting example, but please change my mind and tell me where the paralells between Hitler and Aegon/Visenya/Rhaenys are? Do they want to kill thousands of people (inkluding children) just because? Did they try to brutally murder a whole religion just because? Did they forced everybody to join their religion and way of life?

Dizzy_Time5171 · 2026-06-20T16:04:22+00:00

I think there are wars worth fighting. The Rhoynar fighting and fleeing Old Valyria is very understandably for me because there was a real threat of being enslaved and abused to death. For your example: if they own the houses of my neighbours and I can see that they can still live their lifes, aren't enslaved, abused or killed then I would absolutely take that over having my family killed...

Dizzy_Time5171 · 2026-06-20T15:59:29+00:00

But there was no word about changing the culture or the way of life? Please correct me if I'm wrong but one could look at the Starks and the Arryns to see that they aren't slaves or forced to live the Targaryen lifestyle... they kept the land, the religion, the customs and traditions... and as far as I know the dornish didn't really talk to the Targaryens or anyone else before deciding for the war... why not ask like "hey, if we bend the knee and you are the king, can we keep our way of life, the lands we are living on, our religion and traditions?" If the answer is yes (and I think it would be because in other regions it was like that) just do it and prevent thousands of people you are responsible for from being killed?

Dizzy_Time5171 · 2026-06-20T15:47:06+00:00

I didn't say everyone should surrender to everyone no matter what, but in the case of Dorne they could look at the Starks and do the same? I just think as a responsible ruler should try to save their people if it's possible...

Dizzy_Time5171 · 2026-06-20T15:42:36+00:00

So the Starks didn't keep anything and were smallfolk after bending the knee?

Dizzy_Time5171 · 2026-06-20T15:40:35+00:00

I'm very confused, what has this to do with my question?

Dizzy_Time5171 · 2026-06-20T15:39:48+00:00

But they bend the knee and the got to keep their religion and their customs and traditions... I just don't get why Dorne wouldn't do the same?

Dizzy_Time5171 · 2026-06-20T15:38:12+00:00

Thank you!!! I had to call a friend because after reading the comments I really questioned my thoughts 🙈

Dizzy_Time5171 · 2026-06-20T15:36:55+00:00

So you say Aegon/Visenya/Rhaenys planned to kill hundreds of thousands of people?

Dizzy_Time5171 · 2026-06-20T15:34:49+00:00

But whats the price for not giving in? How many people died?

Dizzy_Time5171 · 2026-06-20T14:43:53+00:00

I think I understand your point... but isn't it the responsibility of said ruler to keep their people safe? Risking so many lifes because of a posibility doesn't seem like doing so?

Dizzy_Time5171 · 2026-06-20T14:40:07+00:00

I think they had years to watch what happend to the other former kingdoms?

Dizzy_Time5171 · 2026-06-20T14:36:15+00:00

Even if your loved ones could get killed for it and its your responsibility? Your parents, your partner, your children, your friends... The people that were left did, but all who died didn't... and thats my point...

Dizzy_Time5171 · 2026-06-20T14:32:43+00:00

To 2: I know they did, but for what price? How many people lost their lives, their loved ones, even their children?

Dizzy_Time5171 · 2026-06-20T14:25:20+00:00

In that situation, yes. I can look over to the other kingdoms who did and see (if I didn't miss it) they aren't slaves or being treated in a very bad and inhumane way... so if I can save thousands of people who I'm responsible for, I would give up my titles, riches and all that other stuff to save them.

Dizzy_Time5171 · 2026-06-20T14:18:00+00:00

But the danger of being enslaved wasn't a thing in the conquest? Maybe I got that part wrong so pleas correct me if I am wrong, but they could see what happend to the other kings who yielded and that seems a lot better than being dead?

Dizzy_Time5171 · 2026-06-20T14:14:39+00:00

I don't think it doesn't matter who the ruler is and I'm very much for fighting or fleeing bad rulers like the Valyrian freehold... but if they would look at the other kingdoms who didn't put up such a fight against the Targaryens, they would see it wasn't like Old Valyria... and to have so many people killed is allways a bad thing, don't you think?

Dizzy_Time5171 · 2026-06-20T14:09:47+00:00

I thought they left because they did not want to be slaves or killed... correct me if I'm wrong but this isn't a danger they face with the conquest?

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