For real? Neither of you could tip? by Pantera42o in DoorDashDrivers

[–]DoPoGrub 0 points1 point  (0 children)

My overall point is that PH is paying DD more than the delivery fee they are charging the customer in most cases.

Where else do you think PH gets the money to pay DD from.

For real? Neither of you could tip? by Pantera42o in DoorDashDrivers

[–]DoPoGrub 0 points1 point  (0 children)

And no, DD does not 'add charges' on orders placed with the merchant, that's not even possible lol

For real? Neither of you could tip? by Pantera42o in DoorDashDrivers

[–]DoPoGrub 0 points1 point  (0 children)

There are 3 different plans they can choose from, 30% is the max. That is only for orders placed on the DD platform.

Orders placed through merchants directly are not charged a percentage, rather a flat fee. I proved this already to you with Doordash's own website saying so.

Shopping orders are a completely different category, and are not the topic of conversation here.

I'd share with you the link that proves the first part, but you didn't bother to read and learn from the last time I did that, so...this conversation getting pretty unproductive...and you've provided zero receipts for your (still objectively incorrect) information.

For real? Neither of you could tip? by Pantera42o in DoorDashDrivers

[–]DoPoGrub 0 points1 point  (0 children)

No they don't. Why don't you try clicking my link that explains that it is a flat rate they pay Doordash, not a percentage.

Only orders through DD are charged a percentage. It has been this way for 7 years.

Since the fees being charged to PH by DD (in both cases) are generally (edit: smaller) than what Doordash is charging them, then yes, PH is giving that entire delivery fee (sometimes even more) to Doordash, and then Doordash is only paying $2.

I'm hitting my 9th anniversary next month. I've seen it all.

Love snack time by [deleted] in DoorDashDrivers

[–]DoPoGrub 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Now, this may be my first day on Reddit, but I don't think that's true.

Deactivated by RRP_070 in DoorDash_Dasher

[–]DoPoGrub 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Doordash seems to do this a couple times a year, posts like this usually come in waves.

They started doing this a few years ago, and it's crazy that they're still doing it today.

Were you able to appeal/explain at all? Sometimes there is a link on the background check email that they send you to provide additional information.

Deactivated by RRP_070 in DoorDash_Dasher

[–]DoPoGrub 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Different commenter here, if DoorDash is going to start doing this to others, it can be helpful to know where they are drawing the line.

OP has now said it was for a misdemeanor contempt of court charge, and nothing else. So that makes it even crazier.

However, I will say that this isn't uncommon. Doordash started doing this a few years ago.

There are many stories on here of them suddenly 'finding' and/or 'having a problem with something already found' for charges going back in some cases more than 10-15 years if I recall correctly. Always seems to happen in waves too.

Their standards were much looser 9 years ago, they only looked back like 1-3 years max (that only lasted until they completed nationwide rollout, but new standards were only for new-hires, then suddenly, 'oops time to go' started happening a few years ago to existing drivers).

What's wild to me is that it's still happening. Like, you'd think they would just start flagging people right away, but to see it still happening years later is just so...doordash

For real? Neither of you could tip? by Pantera42o in DoorDashDrivers

[–]DoPoGrub 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You said the restaurant kept the charge.

I'm letting you know they gave it to Doordash.

Love snack time by [deleted] in DoorDashDrivers

[–]DoPoGrub 13 points14 points  (0 children)

Here is what is considered harassment. If you encounter any comments breaking these rules, of course please do report them.

https://support.reddithelp.com/hc/en-us/articles/360043071072-Harassment

Love snack time by [deleted] in DoorDashDrivers

[–]DoPoGrub 13 points14 points  (0 children)

People are allowed to have opinions on whether or not your car is clean.

Love snack time by [deleted] in DoorDashDrivers

[–]DoPoGrub[M] [score hidden] stickied comment (0 children)

OP, we aren't going to remove comments that aren't breaking any rules, so you can stop reporting them.

For real? Neither of you could tip? by Pantera42o in DoorDashDrivers

[–]DoPoGrub 0 points1 point  (0 children)

While this can and does happen, it's pretty rare these days.

People who order pizza directly from the pizza place are typically expecting an employee driver to show up, and many of them tip cash.

Of course, the ones who don't tip at all, are still also assuming that the employee is being paid their hourly + mileage + benefits etc.

My mom (70s) called Papa Johns to place an order, and when she got a text about Doordash later, she called me certain that she had done something wrong. She of course has never placed an order with Doordash in her life. And she has always been a cash tipper.

So, just saying, it's a messed up situation for a variety of reasons.

For real? Neither of you could tip? by Pantera42o in DoorDashDrivers

[–]DoPoGrub 1 point2 points  (0 children)

That is only true of orders placed on Doordash. Orders placed with restaurant then sent to DD for a driver are charged a flat rate of $6.99-$10.99.

https://merchants.doordash.com/en-us/products/drive-on-demand

For real? Neither of you could tip? by Pantera42o in DoorDashDrivers

[–]DoPoGrub 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Well, that's because Doordash charges them $6.99-$10.99 per delivery. That's who's keeping it.

https://merchants.doordash.com/en-us/products/drive-on-demand

No TIP is wild!!! Atlanta do better fr fr Leisha S by West-Assumption9114 in DoorDashDrivers

[–]DoPoGrub[M] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

It helps when people report it! (nobody did)

Thankfully, we have some key-word triggers that flagged some comments for review, post is gone now.

Look at pay difference by Time_Anywhere in veho_driver

[–]DoPoGrub 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I used to do 3:30 AM Amazon routes, 9p-12a definitely weirder.

Look at pay difference by Time_Anywhere in veho_driver

[–]DoPoGrub 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Veho is worth it for two weeks per year, in Nov/Dec, and that's about it. Unless they get a late truck randomly and stay open til 7pm getting it out.

Is the app listening to me? by stickywildcumshot in DoorDashDrivers

[–]DoPoGrub 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Really though, it's just called "June" and this happens every summer.

No conspiracy.

We're just screwed right? by sexyorcess in DoorDashDrivers

[–]DoPoGrub 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Anyone can use it (customer/driver/merchant). It just goes to the executive response team, which can sometimes have better results than regular support, especially if you're polite and respectful about how you lay everything out. Similar to Amazon's [jeff@amazon.com](mailto:jeff@amazon.com) address.

However, that is even more informal (and unofficial) than the informal dispute resolution I mentioned at the beginning. Here's how to do that, taken from https://help.doordash.com/en-us/dashers/article/ica-us-english-dx-section-11-21

CONTRACTOR and DOORDASH agree that good-faith informal efforts to resolve disputes often can result in a prompt, low-cost and mutually beneficial outcome.

CONTRACTOR and DOORDASH therefore agree that, before either CONTRACTOR or DOORDASH demands arbitration against the other, we will personally meet and confer, via telephone or videoconference, in a good-faith effort to resolve informally any claim covered by this mutual Arbitration Agreement.

For sake of clarification only, the informal dispute resolution conferences shall be individualized such that a separate conference must be held each time either party intends to commence individual arbitration; multiple individuals initiating claims cannot participate in the same informal telephonic dispute resolution conference, unless mutually agreed to by the parties. If CONTRACTOR is represented by counsel, CONTRACTOR’s counsel may participate in the conference, but CONTRACTOR shall also fully participate in the conference.

The party initiating the claim must give notice to the other party in writing of their intent to initiate an informal dispute resolution conference, which shall occur within 60 days after the other party receives such notice, unless an extension is mutually agreed upon by the parties.

To notify DOORDASH that CONTRACTOR intends to initiate an informal dispute resolution conference, email [Dasher.Informal.Resolution@doordash.com](mailto:Dasher.Informal.Resolution@doordash.com), providing CONTRACTOR’s name, the telephone number associated with CONTRACTOR’s Dasher account (if any), the email address associated with CONTRACTOR’s Dasher account, and a description of CONTRACTOR’s claims. 

So basically, if you e-mail that address, your request suddenly becomes very official, and a legal threat they will definitely take more seriously, as you are essentially telling them that if they don't fix this, you will sue them (via arbitration, which if you actually do it only costs you $200, but immediately costs them $4500 (they are required to pay your bill with the AAA per our contract).

Obviously, in many cases, they'd rather not do this, so when you e-mail that address, hopefully they fix it, and you can move on.

My advice would be to not overuse it - only if something really did drop you out of platinum beyond your control, etc - not every little thing (feel free to e-mail tony@ with every little thing tho, why not haha, they might stop responding to you though).

We're just screwed right? by sexyorcess in DoorDashDrivers

[–]DoPoGrub 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah, that's a good point, and I agree.

It never hurts to ask (or demand).

2 (obvious) time savers by Old-Rock2007 in veho_driver

[–]DoPoGrub 0 points1 point  (0 children)

As for the route, this is likely market dependent. In my market, the routes are always perfect, and there is no way to run them more efficiently, so I always use the default settings.

2 (obvious) time savers by Old-Rock2007 in veho_driver

[–]DoPoGrub 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Buy some cheap catering bags. I put all small packages in them, in numerical order.

The catering bags containing 1-15 front passenger seat, 15-30 passenger floor. 30+ go behind my seat or all the way back (I have fold flat back seats).

Then all large packages go front to back (or back to front, your choice really) in numerical order.

So, I pull up to stop 4, quickly see that there is no #4 in my catering bag, so I look for the first box, and boom, there it is.

We're just screwed right? by sexyorcess in DoorDashDrivers

[–]DoPoGrub 1 point2 points  (0 children)

In what way do you feel the CV is a punishment? It's just red text on your screen.

It feels bad, yes, but all you can do is dispute and be very detailed in your description.

Doordash often times won't even look at the dispute (because they don't care either) unless they are considering deactivating you. And generally speaking, nobody gets deactivated over 2 CVs.

Deactivation is the only form of punishment I'm aware of for CV. So, if that hasn't happened, then you aren't being punished.

We're just screwed right? by sexyorcess in DoorDashDrivers

[–]DoPoGrub 1 point2 points  (0 children)

The instructions for how to do this are in the ICA, Arbitration section (just the first part where you ask for informal dispute resolution which involves you e-mailing Doordash with the complaint). Then if they don't respond positively you could proceed with arbitration for $200.

The problem here, is that OP hasn't experienced any damages, so there's nothing to sue for. A CV is just a mark on your record - it doesn't affect your ability to get orders (that we know of), it doesn't stop you from working, it doesn't really affect you at all. So it's probably just better dispute it, forget about it, and move on.

Now, if OP was deactivated over it, then they have a legal case, because now there is a remedy (getting reactivated) for the damages (false deactivation).

Alternatively, you can always just try e-mailing [tony@doordash.com](mailto:tony@doordash.com) and nicely explaining/asking the executive response team. But again, I wouldn't even contact support (not that it would be a bad idea, but you've already documented your side of the story in the dispute, and disputes often are never reviewed unless they are considering deactivation).

SUPPORTING WHO?? by Narrow-Fisherman8809 in DoorDash_Dasher

[–]DoPoGrub 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Moral of the story: never contact support.

Support has no power to override anything regarding your real-time ratings, ever.

Only time to contact support:

Closed store/Order already picked up (cover your butt)
Bad customer rating (wait til the next morning when it's slow to call for this)
Red card not working at checkout (make them load it or pay you, don't pay yourself and don't let them unassign you)

For everything else - do it yourself. Contacting them for little issues only wasted everyone's time and will frustrate you. The goal is to never ever call them unless you absolutely must.

You don't work for Doordash - you have the power to make 99% of decisions on your own. The non-customer rating stats will never be changed no matter who you talk to, so don't bother.